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I see schreger lines in the butt cap, so I think someone wasted a piece of ivory. It definitely screams JW copy and if I had to guess, I would say Richard Phillippi.

JV
 
classiccues said:
I see schreger lines in the butt cap, so I think someone wasted a piece of ivory. It definitely screams JW copy and if I had to guess, I would say Richard Phillippi.

JV
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Really? I looked as close as i could and it still looks like plastic. Those 'end grain' pics still look synthetic. The side view is tough because the finish is so yellowed. Some Shreger line pics. I just don't see this in the op's cue: https://www.google.com/search?clien...S1VNMsQtKgLegQIEBAB&biw=1408&bih=653&dpr=1.36
 
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garczar said:
Really? I looked as close as i could and it still looks like plastic. Those 'end grain' pics still look synthetic. The side view is tough because the finish is so yellowed.
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The way this is cracking, and I still think they are schreger lines, I think it is natural. I think the cue is US made and this is an early Phillippi and he used a light engraved P which often faded.

JV
 

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classiccues said:
The way this is cracking, and I still think they are schreger lines, I think it is natural. I think the cue is US made and this is an early Phillippi and he used a light engraved P which often faded.

JV
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Not tyring to fight ya over this but i've seen plastic get yellow and crack exactly like this. The side pics of the butt cap should have easily seen lines if it was ivory. I've only had a couple cues with iv. caps but i have had lots of cues with iv. ferrules, hoppe rings, inlays and all had easily seen lines/grain. Not having the cue in hand makes this really hard to say for certain.
 
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I will say this.... I believe the joint was messed with heavily. Look at the shaft insert. That was filled and retapped. This thing most likely started life with a different pin. The buttcap also looks to be replaced, and the dots appear to be added.

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FAST_N_LOOSE said:
I will say this.... I believe the joint was messed with heavily. Look at the shaft insert. That was filled and retapped. This thing most likely started life with a different pin. The buttcap also looks to be replaced, and the dots appear to be added.

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Agree. This bastard of cue started as one thing and after multiple 'surgeries' ended up here. One thing for sure: this ain't no Joss.
 
garczar said:
Not tyring to fight ya over this but i've seen plastic get yellow and crack exactly like this. The side pics of the butt cap should have easily seen lines if it was ivory. I've only had a couple cues with iv. caps but i have had lots of cues with iv. ferrules, hoppe rings, inlays and all had easily seen lines/grain. Not having the cue in hand makes this really hard to say for certain.
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Well I have never seen plastics commonly used on vintage cues, end up like this. But I haven't seen everything... so no problems.
JV
 
Not Joss rings..too narrow. What was likely on the sticker on the butt sleeve?
Dots are to cover imperfections but the execution of the dots are terrible. Think the dots are original.
How did you acquire it?
 
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