Calling ball and pocket. My final word.

This has been very interesting. Many of you have told me that my rules are wrong or unfair but the rules that you use are correct. Some of you have said correctly that a pool game should be played using whatever rules the players agree on.

And what exactly is a 'two-way shot'?

If you're referring to me, I never meant it that way.
You absolutely have to be trolling here. You still don't understand what a two-way shot is. You still don't understand what WW is trying to imply about your "ball stays down rule". Either you're trolling, or you have a reading comprehension problem to go along with your attitude.
 
Whatever you and your opponent agree to
are the rules.
I do not play for money. But I ask my opponent what rules do you to use. As for 8 ball no ball in hand. Cue scratch behind the line. Only call the 8 … lose on a scratch.
9 ball. Go for the hit. Miss the object ball the shooter can be told to shoot again. 2 bad hits are ball in hand. Can play call the 9 or luck it. Determined before the game starts.
Some older players use those rules. But everything gets discussed before beginning.
Dinosaur game/rules.. however I’m a caveman.
 
You absolutely have to be trolling here. You still don't understand what a two-way shot is. You still don't understand what WW is trying to imply about your "ball stays down rule". Either you're trolling, or you have a reading comprehension problem to go along with your attitude.
You really need to read all the posts. All of the points you've made have been addressed.
 
Yes, I think that is one of the things that differentiate 9ball. If you take that away it is a different game
That's my point exactly! Calling ball and pocket does make it a different game. A more difficult game. That's why I play that way and that's why most pool players don't care to.
 
That's my point exactly! Calling ball and pocket does make it a different game. A more difficult game. That's why I play that way and that's why most pool players don't care to.
Back pocket 9 ball is challenging.
 
That's my point exactly! Calling ball and pocket does make it a different game. A more difficult game. That's why I play that way and that's why most pool players don't care to.
Banks would be right up your alley then. It has the least luck of any game, and the shots are the hardest. Even in straight pool you can mishit a ball and it can go 4 rails and fall in the called pocket. It’s good for gambling and handicapping as well.
 
Banks would be right up your alley then. It has the least luck of any game, and the shots are the hardest. Even in straight pool you can mishit a ball and it can go 4 rails and fall in the called pocket. It’s good for gambling and handicapping as well.
You're right. Banks is 'right up my alley'.
 
That's fine as long as you call it.
OK so I can call one bal or nine ball, when I'm not sure which is going to fall? If so I'm just going to call any and every ball on every shot.

He's talking about shooting the one ball and hoping the nine falls but if it doesn't he still potted the 1 ball to continue. That's an offensive 2 way shot.
 
I once asked the late Joe Kerr, a tournament director out of Starcher's Billiards in Akron, Ohio and a good friend, why isn't 9-ball call pocket? He told me he agreed with me, but they need lots of entries in a tournament to cover the payouts. If the players had to call their shots, the B-level players wouldn't play, because they rely on the 'luck' factor to have a chance to win a match against the better players.
So you feel you are an A player and that the only way you could possibly lose to another A would be if they got lucky? That’s why you insist on playing call shot so they can’t get lucky.
 
That's my point exactly! Calling ball and pocket does make it a different game. A more difficult game. That's why I play that way and that's why most pool players don't care to.
If you want difficult play that you have to call every ball or cushion the called ball will hit on the way to the pocket.
 
Troll, tool take your pick. The guy seems to be clueless about pool. Reminds me of this kid in my neighborhood with the nice basketball. Had to play by his rules or he cried and ran home with his ball. I don't see the guy: A.getting many games or B. winning due to his goofy rules. Tossing him on the Ignore pile with justnum. They're a perfect match.
 
OK so I can call one bal or nine ball, when I'm not sure which is going to fall? If so I'm just going to call any and every ball on every shot.

He's talking about shooting the one ball and hoping the nine falls but if it doesn't he still potted the 1 ball to continue. That's an offensive 2 way shot.
He still won't understand...
 
Calling ball and pocket does make it a different game. A more difficult game. That's why I play that way and that's why most pool players don't care to.
Does it really though...?

I could count on one hand the amount of times during 2023 I've been competitively playing and managed to pocket an undesired ball in an undeclared pocket. Hell I could probably chop a few fingers off and still manage listing them all. Of course this excludes the break, but I'm probably 50-60% to get that right as well...lol.

Although we all know shit happens at every skill level. "Call pocket" is a hack game created by those who are building up some ability to play the game but don't yet have the skill to over come bangers they feel they shouldn't lose to.
 
That's my point exactly! Calling ball and pocket does make it a different game. A more difficult game. That's why I play that way and that's why most pool players don't care to.
It sounds like playing call pocket 9 ball might be easier in some aspects. If we were on the 3 ball and it was in the jaws of a pocket with the 4 ball on the opposite side of the table and there was a ball blocking the path between the 3 and 4 I could just call the 3 in a pocket other than the one it sits in the jaws of and I have an easy safe. It would be your turn because even though I pocketed the 3 it was not in the called pocket, it was a legal hit, no foul occurred so the shot passes to you but that pesky ball we talked about is blocking that path to the 4. In real 9b ball rules the shooter continues his inning because slop counts, no chicken shit safe permitted.
 
It sounds like playing call pocket 9 ball might be easier in some aspects. If we were on the 3 ball and it was in the jaws of a pocket with the 4 ball on the opposite side of the table and there was a ball blocking the path between the 3 and 4 I could just call the 3 in a pocket other than the one it sits in the jaws of and I have an easy safe. It would be your turn because even though I pocketed the 3 it was not in the called pocket, it was a legal hit, no foul occurred so the shot passes to you but that pesky ball we talked about is blocking that path to the 4. In real 9b ball rules the shooter continues his inning because slop counts, no chicken shit safe permitted.
You really don't see anything wrong with that?
 
Does it really though...?

I could count on one hand the amount of times during 2023 I've been competitively playing and managed to pocket an undesired ball in an undeclared pocket. Hell I could probably chop a few fingers off and still manage listing them all. Of course this excludes the break, but I'm probably 50-60% to get that right as well...lol.

Although we all know shit happens at every skill level. "Call pocket" is a hack game created by those who are building up some ability to play the game but don't yet have the skill to over come bangers they feel they shouldn't lose to.
Really? Straight pool is a 'hack game'?
 
Really? Straight pool is a 'hack game'?
Well you decided to delete your OP, but someone was kind enough to quote it so you can't hide that easily:
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You were speaking of 9 ball or 8 ball. Not straight pool.

What you're not responding to, probably because you didn't like being called out on it. Is that introducing called shots into games that don't use the rule, is done by people who think they lose to perceived weaker players because of luck. When in reality they actually lack the ability to beat them while playing the game properly.

My stance is that adding called ball/pocket doesn't change the game in the slightest once you because a good player.
 
Well you decided to delete your OP, but someone was kind enough to quote it so you can't hide that easily:
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You were speaking of 9 ball or 8 ball. Not straight pool.

What you're not responding to, probably because you didn't like being called out on it. Is that introducing called shots into games that don't use the rule, is done by people who think they lose to perceived weaker players because of luck. When in reality they actually lack the ability to beat them while playing the game properly.

My stance is that adding called ball/pocket doesn't change the game in the slightest once you because a good player.
There's no reason to get nasty. I haven't attacked anyone. I just choose to play by my own set of rules, as you do. I shouldn't have mentioned the 8 ball in my initial post. This is about call pocket 9 ball. It was a bit confusing. Sorry.
 
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