Can anyone explain this Tascarella cue auction?

[FAST_N_LOOSE]

And I guess the Blue Book is pretty much off the mark regarding Tascarellas...

IT'S WAY OFF ON MANY CUEMAKERS. BUT THIS CUE, NOW THAT I WENT BACKAND LOOKED AT THE BOOK,ONLY SOLD FOR SLIGHTLY MORE THAN WHAT THE BLUE BOOK SAYS.

LEVEL 6 STARTS AT 5500 AT 100%(WHICH THIS CUE IS) THE CUE HAS 68 INLAYS, NOT COUNTING THE VENEERED EBONY WINDOWS(I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU COUNT THOSE) IT HAS 72 INLAYS IF YOU CANT EACH WINDOW AS A SINGLE INLAY. SO 72 INLAYS, PLUS THE SLEEVED IVORY JOINT(ABOUT 250 FROM PETE, I THINK), AND THE PERFECT BLACK LEATHER WRAP,(ABOUT 200 FROM PETE I THINK FOR THIS TYPE OF LEATHER)

TO BE HONEST I NEVER EVEN THOUGHT TO LOOK AT THE BLUEBOOK WHILE I WAS BIDDING. I KNEW WHERE THE CUE WOULD END UP AS FAR AS THE PRICE GOES, AND I WAS PRETTY MUCH RIGHT ON THE MONEY AS FAR AS WHAT I EXPECTED.

 

[ScottR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1pRoscoe
Even though he types in all caps, I think he was agreeing with what I was saying.

I CERTAINLY WAS.

Oops. I'll butt out next time . . . .

 

[BillYards]

Oh, maybe that's where I went wrong. I counted twenty inlays and thought it fell more to level 4. I guess I need a lesson on counting inlays and using the Blue Book!

Found 4 other Plain-Jane Tascarellas on The Net right now for around $3k... I never knew they were that pricey. Sorry!

See... you can learn a new thing (or two) on the forum every day!

 

[ribdoner]

I CERTAINLY WAS.

GREAT ACQUISITION. If I was still a PLAYA I would own it or you would have paid more. Price, within reason, is not relevant on a piece of this ilk. I sold one apprx. 10 yrs ago that wasn't near this juicy for 5k. You do have the two nicest/fanciest/ornate/highly embellished examples I've seen. BAR NONE!

Although you don't need anyone's validation your choice of focusing on PETE's work as the core of your collection is BRILLIANT!

 

[keepitreal]

It is difficult to discuss cues with the un-informed and non collectors.
For instance, I can show my cues locally and for the most part, the comments I get are directed toward the aesthetics, and not really even interested who made the cue, or even how the cue hits. Also, many people in the pool community are living in the past. For instance, often I’ll show a cue from say Franklin, Hercek or Guitterez Etc. and will get comments.. oh ya, well I have (past hot maker) .. as if to suggest .. with that statement, that overrides anything that I have to show. In other words an ignorant attitude about present cues and maker significance therein. The Pete this gentleman recently procured is truly a special cue from one of the top makers on the planet. Collecting cues is like playing the stock market. One has to work it with due diligence, and constantly, in order to stay in tune with current makers, present & futures, hence making informed decisions while buying and selling. This gentleman made a nice acquisition and his timing was nice. This and other works of Mr. Tascarella will be extremely sought after in the near future. They are already, however the name ‘Tascarella’ is not yet universally known down the food chain yet, certainly not true with informed collectors, however in the not to distant future, that will be far from the case. Nice job on a great deal for a sweet, sweet, one of a kind Tascarella!

 

[FAST_N_LOOSE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1pRoscoe
Even though he types in all caps, I think he was agreeing with what I was saying.



Oops. I'll butt out next time . . . .

NO OOPS..... I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW I WASN'T BEIN A JERK. I VALUE YOUR OPINION.

 

[FAST_N_LOOSE]

GREAT ACQUISITION. If I was still a PLAYA I would own it or you would have paid more. Price, within reason, is not relevant on a piece of this ilk. I sold one apprx. 10 yrs ago that wasn't near this juicy for 5k. You do have the two nicest/fanciest/ornate/highly embellished examples I've seen. BAR NONE!

Although you don't need anyone's validation your choice of focusing on PETE's work as the core of your collection is BRILLIANT!

THANKS FOR THE KIND WORDS ABOUT MY CUES. I'D LOVE TO SEE SW301-93. I'M SURE YOU'VE HAD SOME KILLER CUES THROGH THE YEARS.

 

[FAST_N_LOOSE]

It is difficult to discuss cues with the un-informed and non collectors.
For instance, I can show my cues locally and for the most part, the comments I get are directed toward the aesthetics, and not really even interested who made the cue, or even how the cue hits. Also, many people in the pool community are living in the past. For instance, often I’ll show a cue from say Franklin, Hercek or Guitterez Etc. and will get comments.. oh ya, well I have (past hot maker) .. as if to suggest .. with that statement, that overrides anything that I have to show. In other words an ignorant attitude about present cues and maker significance therein. The Pete this gentleman recently procured is truly a special cue from one of the top makers on the planet. Collecting cues is like playing the stock market. One has to work it with due diligence, and constantly, in order to stay in tune with current makers, present & futures, hence making informed decisions while buying and selling. This gentleman made a nice acquisition and his timing was nice. This and other works of Mr. Tascarella will be extremely sought after in the near future. They are already, however the name ‘Tascarella’ is not yet universally known down the food chain yet, certainly not true with informed collectors, however in the not to distant future, that will be far from the case. Nice job on a great deal for a sweet, sweet, one of a kind Tascarella!

THANKS FOR THE NICE WORDS, AND YOU MADE VERY GOOD POINTS. I RUN INTO THAT SITUATION ALOT.

 

[ribdoner]

Oh, maybe that's where I went wrong. I counted twenty inlays and thought it fell more to level 4. I guess I need a lesson on counting inlays and using the Blue Book!

Found 4 other Plain-Jane Tascarellas on The Net right now for around $3k... I never knew they were that pricey. Sorry!

Don't confuse much of the pricing info in the BB with fact. If you do you'll you wonder where your $ went. It can cost you more than a 25 yr marriage terminating in divorce.

At best the BB is a decent referance source and perhaps establishing broad pricing guidlines for certain kinds of cues. The top levels of the secondary cue market is trendy and volatile.

Only a few people on the planet REALLY understand it and a high percentage post on and/or peruse this site!

 

[alpine9430]

Found 4 other Plain-Jane Tascarellas on The Net right now for around $3k... I never knew they were that pricey. Sorry!

BillYards

Here is a sample of the quality of work you will get with a Tascarella.
This cue is awesome in person and Marcus has some better samples of PT's work.
I am not letting this one go at all...

Enjoy and keep shooting them straight,
Myron

 

[BillYards]

Thanks for the photos, Myron! I am learning a lot about Tascarella cues today.

 

[ScottR]

BillYards

Here is a sample of the quality of work you will get with a Tascarella.
This cue is awesome in person and Marcus has some better samples of PT's work.
I am not letting this one go at all...

Enjoy and keep shooting them straight,
Myron

Myron,
I'm curious about the veneer closeup. Are the thick black and thick purple(heart?) just thicker veneers than the two red ones? Or, are they both double layers, resulting in 6 total veneers?

Also, what kind of veneers are on this cue; traditional dyed mitered veneers or one-piece solid veneers? I don't see a seam at the point in your picture. I realize that is the point of Pete super work - so they are probably mitered and are just so tight they don't show up. Thanks.

 

[JimBo]

The highest price every paid for a cue was for a cue that the maker did not make the blank.
Craig

What cue is this and where are you getting your info.
I don't believe this to be a true statement.

Jim

 

[ribdoner]

BillYards

Here is a sample of the quality of work you will get with a Tascarella.
This cue is awesome in person and Marcus has some better samples of PT's work.
I am not letting this one go at all...

Enjoy and keep shooting them straight,
Myron

WOW--out-o-sight quality. The last one I had was made 4 or 5 yrs ago. If yours is indictitive of what PETE is now doing on a consistant basis i've got to restructure my thinking.

 

[alpine9430]

Myron,
I'm curious about the veneer closeup. Are the thick black and thick purple(heart?) just thicker veneers than the two red ones? Or, are they both double layers, resulting in 6 total veneers?

Also, what kind of veneers are on this cue; traditional dyed mitered veneers or one-piece solid veneers? I don't see a seam at the point in your picture. I realize that is the point of Pete super work - so they are probably mitered and are just so tight they don't show up. Thanks.

ScottR

The pictures of course are reduced from the full size sets.
The points are even, the veneers are mitred to sharp points and the veneers are slightly thicker than my Scruggs.
Maybe Marcus can chime in on the type of veneers they may be (I am slowly learning about the build process).
I am adding one more picture that does show the mitre work better.
If you send me a PM with your e-mail, I would be happy to share the details in full size pictures.

There are a total of 4 veneers (starting from the outer veneer):

Black
Red
Purple Kind of Red (best way to describe it)
Red again​

If I missed responding something directly, let me know...
Myron

 

[alpine9430]

Thanks for the photos, Myron! I am learning a lot about Tascarella cues today.

Glad to return the favour...
As I am learning about Black Boars.

Myron

 

[HighEndCues]

The % of the blanks made by Pete is not really important. The highest price every paid for a cue was for a cue that the maker did not make the blank. Pete is a very traditional cue maker, the equipment and tools he is using were made and tooled by George Balabushka. I would buy a cue from Pete before I would buy one from Barry, only because Pete has 15 to 20 year's more experience working with cues than Barry. Which cue would sell for more! or which will be worth more! is very subjective and we all know that anything is only worth what a buyer will pay for it. However, that in its self clearly will not show who is the best, only time can do that.

Craig

Hey Marcus,
GOOD JOB...... I knew you wouldn't let that one go... It looks like a great investment to me... Pete makes a great cue, and this one is special.. I know you don't want to see mine when it's completed..LOL

Hard not to comment on the previous responses Jabbing at Barry Szamboti.. I wouldn't know where to start..
Rediculous statements.. Such as what is his last name was "Smith"...
Then I would own some of the best playing SMITH cues...

Maybe I can help with this statement...
The highest price every paid for a cue was for a cue that the maker did not make the blank
REALLY...
Since I sold the most expensive cue, for the Szamboti family..
I'm sure you have heard of it "The Last Work" of Gus Szamboti...
I'm pretty sure GUS made that blank...

Ken
www.highendcues.com

 

[BillYards]

Highend:

Do you have any photos you can post of The Last Cue? And the price was.....?

 

[Barbara]

THANK YOU KEN!!!

Yeah, all those radial arm saws in the back room are only for show...

Barbara

Hey Marcus,
GOOD JOB...... I knew you wouldn't let that one go... It looks like a great investment to me... Pete makes a great cue, and this one is special.. I know you don't want to see mine when it's completed..LOL

Hard not to comment on the previous responses Jabbing at Barry Szamboti.. I wouldn't know where to start..
Rediculous statements.. Such as what is his last name was "Smith"...
Then I would own some of the best playing SMITH cues...

Maybe I can help with this statement...
The highest price every paid for a cue was for a cue that the maker did not make the blank
REALLY...
Since I sold the most expensive cue, for the Szamboti family..
I'm sure you have heard of it "The Last Work" of Gus Szamboti...
I'm pretty sure GUS made that blank...

Ken
www.highendcues.com

 

[Barbara]

Highend:

Do you have any photos you can post of The Last Cue? And the price was.....?

I'm sure Ken was sworn to secrecy concerning the price.

The Billiards Encyclopedia by Stein and Rubino has a very nice pic of it. I also have a 8/12 x 11 pic of it that Barry gave me. Unfortunately my digital cam's USB port is broken so I can't take a pic of it to post up.

Barbara