The lease and the landlord are the only one's that count. You seem to be predetermined to buy. You're on your own. Good luck.
Can i put a pool table in my apartment?
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The lease and the landlord are the only one's that count. You seem to be predetermined to buy. You're on your own. Good luck.
Yes, the lease and landlord are the only ones who count. But they will always lean to "no". Lets face it, they are going to think loud beer parties all the time if there is a table.
What's the worst that can happen in order of bad if neighbors complain excessively to management.
1. U get evicted out of apt
2. U don't get evicted but are not allowed to use table.
3. U r forced to only use the table during certain hours and not for more than certain amt of time.
4. U make friends with neighbors and invite them to play a game once in a while to keep them happy.
5. You are smart about how and when you play and no one even knows you have a table.
What's the worst that can happen in order of bad if neighbors complain excessively to management.
1. U get evicted out of apt
2. U don't get evicted but are not allowed to use table.
3. U r forced to only use the table during certain hours and not for more than certain amt of time.
4. U make friends with neighbors and invite them to play a game once in a while to keep them happy.
5. You are smart about how and when you play and no one even knows you have a table.
Yes im buying one and putting it in,unless it specifically says no pool tables in the lease,in which case i wont move there.Im not asking either.Like i said if there were comments stating they had one and it was nothing but trouble i would reconsider,but its been the opposite.If i ask what grounds does the landlord have to tell me i cant,because its a noise disturbance?Well how does he know if my neighbors can even hear it or care?Doesnt that give me the right to object to anyone moving above me who has little children who cry and roll around on the floor above me all day?
In the politest way possible:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkWiC_baTp4&feature=player_detailpage#t=89s
All other evidence is what is called anecdotal. It is suggestive of what may or may not happen, but in no way based on your reality..
It is not sufficient to act upon.
I will be reading along, but doubtful to reply further , except for the 'i told you so' comments, when you start asking about storing a table.
Best of luck
Your mileage may vary
results not typical
consult your dr
may or may not be right for you.
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I agree with the putting the table in without checking with the apartment manager. Their response will ALWAYS be "no" to anything not directly in the agreement.
You should look through the agreement for anything relating to sound (music, parties, etc.) and see what limits they place upon you.
The only loud noise to be concerned about would the breaking the rack. You can adjust this by telling all shooters that only a medium speed is acceptable.
Placing some thick cloth across the top edge of the pocket will deaden any sound of the balls slamming in.
You can also activate some sort of white noise sound track on your stereo system which will hide about 50-60 dB.
Make sure the table is brought in when the manager is out.
You should look through the agreement for anything relating to sound (music, parties, etc.) and see what limits they place upon you.
The only loud noise to be concerned about would the breaking the rack. You can adjust this by telling all shooters that only a medium speed is acceptable.
Placing some thick cloth across the top edge of the pocket will deaden any sound of the balls slamming in.
You can also activate some sort of white noise sound track on your stereo system which will hide about 50-60 dB.
Make sure the table is brought in when the manager is out.
In my humble opinion, I would never recommend anyone get a table while living in a rental. It seems every single week, there's a new thread about someone trying to build their home poolroom in a less than ideal fashion and I firmly believe you're going to end up with a compromised experience. Do you know how much it costs to move a table? This is a 3-piece slated table which means you're going to need it take it apart and recloth it. If you're doing this with Simonis, I can't see how you can get away with a moving cost much less than 1k (and that's not including the rest of your furniture).
Just my opinion but I'd put aside the money for when you buy your home. That way, you can really focus on making it ideal rather than doing what you can with what's allowed. Anything less than ideal and you're only going to find yourself at the poolroom anyway. In fact, one can argue that nothing is going to stop you from going to the poolroom so why bother?
Just my opinion but I'd put aside the money for when you buy your home. That way, you can really focus on making it ideal rather than doing what you can with what's allowed. Anything less than ideal and you're only going to find yourself at the poolroom anyway. In fact, one can argue that nothing is going to stop you from going to the poolroom so why bother?
do you by any chance have ''tool'' tattooed across your forehead?What are you a former landlord with a stick up your ass?sounds like you think there is no chance,not even a possibility,the dumbest idea ever to put a pool table in an apartment.No landlord in his right mind would ever allow such a thing,a ridiculous idea for even asking.The 2 people who actually have one,said its never been a problem.I will continue to reply in between games games i play in my apartment.:grin:
but the table is being delivered to me disassembled.When i move i will load it on the moving truck along with my other furniture.Once i get it in their i will have billiard people come and install it.
No..I don't. I just work with contracts, Lawyers and people who design processes to turn out right.
I hope you can have your pool table. I just think you would save yourself a lotta potential cost/ headache/ frustration by finding out first. I even gave you the exact language to use, but you are too busy seeing what you want to see to take advantage of sage.
If you're hellbent on doing it, best of luck to you. I have a couple of friends that rent and own tables and usually their experiences run in line with their financial status. If you can afford it then nothing really matters. I'm just saying that you're adding some pretty hefty costs to a somewhat temporary situation. Maybe it's not temporary, who knows? Either way, I think you should get the apartment first and go over the lease restrictions with a fine tooth comb. In NYC, there are rental laws that apply to rent controlled apartments. If you have something like that in your area, you might not have any problems.
but what is the lease going to say?i doubt it will mention a pool table specifically,and if if does i look elsewhere.I know a lease usually states ''no nails in the walls'',in my old apartment,and in every apartment i went into there were nails in the wall.
Black-Balled can be pretty nasty sometimes, especially when it comes to giving advice to people who don't want to hear anything except their own words echoing back at them.
I hate that guy. :thumbup:
When I lived in an apartment, I dreamed about having a pool table in the living room. I was aware, however, that pool tables make quite a bit of noise, and noises tend to cause problems for apartment dwellers.
When we bought a house, I made sure that it had room for a pool table.
I would hate to be in a situation where I had to hit a 7 ball pretty hard to get shape on the 8, but first, I had to check the time, and look outside to see whose cars are in the parking lot.
but what is the lease going to say?i doubt it will mention a pool table specifically,and if if does i look elsewhere.I know a lease usually states ''no nails in the walls'',in my old apartment,and in every apartment i went into that complex there were nails in the wall.
Black-Balled can be pretty nasty sometimes, especially when it comes to giving advice to people who don't want to hear anything except their own words echoing back at them.
I hate that guy. :thumbup:
When I lived in an apartment, I dreamed about having a pool table in the living room. I was aware, however, that pool tables make quite a bit of noise, and noises tend to cause problems for apartment dwellers.
When we bought a house, I made sure that it had room for a pool table.
I would hate to be in a situation where I had to hit a 7 ball pretty hard to get shape on the 8, but first, I had to check the time, and look outside to see whose cars are in the parking lot.
i dont want to hear my own words echoing back,if the responses were negative from people who have one i probably wouldnt do it,but thats not the case.His big thing is asking permission.A landlord may automatically ASSUME its going to be a problem,when if fact it might not be a problem at all.If i was going to ask someone,shouldnt i ask the neighbors?they are the people who are directly affected,not the landlord.By asking him he then is making the decision for the neighbors himself.What if my neighbors are pool players themselves?Asking to bring in a pool or large stereo equipment a landlord will always assume the worst.
I'm in a rent controlled apartment in NYC which means I am guaranteed a lease renewal and my rent can only go up by the percentage determined by City government (usually 3-6%). This means, I could do whatever I want without worrying about losing my lease at the end of the year. Depending on where you live and your local laws, I don't know. Are you guaranteed a lease renewal? Can they raise your rent however much they want? No, there may not be anything in the lease that says you can't own a pooltable. It might just say the landlord can refuse to renew the lease.
So they wont renew my lease,a tenant who has never had any problems never late with the rent simply because i have a pool table.This landlord sounds like a real asss hole.
compromise
Ask.
If they say no, ask if you can put one in the public room - coin op and grab your rent money each month. Spend time in there giving low cost lessons/sets.
...and if you want to, throw the landlord a bone - give him 25% of the drop.
Problem solved.
Ask.
If they say no, ask if you can put one in the public room - coin op and grab your rent money each month. Spend time in there giving low cost lessons/sets.
...and if you want to, throw the landlord a bone - give him 25% of the drop.
Problem solved.
One way to get the landlord's attitude is to use a friend to come in and inquire about moving in - and present the table situation.
This keeps your head below the horizon.
This keeps your head below the horizon.
So they wont renew my lease,a tenant who has never had any problems never late with the rent simply because i have a pool table.This landlord sounds like a real asss hole.
I mean, I don't rent my apartments based on the landlord's personality. It's a business relationship. I could care less if he's a jerk or a saint so long as he meets his side of the arrangement.