can using the original shaft hurt the value?

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I just bought a Timmy Scruggs recently. It was used but the two shafts it came with were not. Everyone is telling me to not use the original shafts because it will kill the value. (I've been shooting with a predator) Is it really going to hurt the value that much to shoot with one of the shafts. I clean mine every week and honestly the schonn I just got rid of ...aside from a tiny bit of blue on the ferrel you couldn't tell I ever played with it.
 
I just bought a Timmy Scruggs recently. It was used but the two shafts it came with were not. Everyone is telling me to not use the original shafts because it will kill the value. (I've been shooting with a predator) Is it really going to hurt the value that much to shoot with one of the shafts. I clean mine every week and honestly the schonn I just got rid of ...aside from a tiny bit of blue on the ferrel you couldn't tell I ever played with it.

If you bought the cue to play with, then use one or both of the original shafts by all means. If you bought it strictly as an investment then maybe not. It won't "kill" the value of your cue, unless you put dings or marks in the shafts or sand them down too much. Take care of your cue and it will always have value. It's a Scruggs after all!
 
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I just bought a Timmy Scruggs recently. It was used but the two shafts it came with were not. Everyone is telling me to not use the original shafts because it will kill the value. (I've been shooting with a predator) Is it really going to hurt the value that much to shoot with one of the shafts. I clean mine every week and honestly the schonn I just got rid of ...aside from a tiny bit of blue on the ferrel you couldn't tell I ever played with it.

did you buy the cue to collect it or to use it? driving a new car hurts it's value but you don't see a whole lot of people buying cars and taking the bus.

you do the math
 
If you're not going to use the shafts, why use the butt? If you aren't using both a shaft and a butt, you aren't playing with a Tim Scruggs cue. If you want to play with a Predator, buy a Predator cue.

Frankly, I prefer Tim's shafts, on his cues, over any after market shaft.
 
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Back in the early 70's, I bought a Palmer model M from the 2nd catalog with two shafts...my name under the ring & on the case.

Shortly after that, I gave up the game...had a biz to run & a daughter to raise..priorities.

So, I placed the cue in the closet for 35 years..didn't take me long to discover it was collectable when I took it to a hall to begin playing again.

This leads me to my question...both shafts were played with. Does that reduce it's value????

Tongue firmly in cheek...:wink:
 
pwd72s...Yeah, it's junk now. I'll take it off your hands for $20 (with both shafts, of course)...or I'll trade ya straight up for this really nice BRAND NEW Player cue (it has an elephant penis wrap)! :grin:

Scott Lee ~ tongue also firmly planted :grin:
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Back in the early 70's, I bought a Palmer model M from the 2nd catalog with two shafts...my name under the ring & on the case.

Shortly after that, I gave up the game...had a biz to run & a daughter to raise..priorities.

So, I placed the cue in the closet for 35 years..didn't take me long to discover it was collectable when I took it to a hall to begin playing again.

This leads me to my question...both shafts were played with. Does that reduce it's value????

Tongue firmly in cheek...:wink:
 
I just bought a Timmy Scruggs recently. It was used but the two shafts it came with were not. Everyone is telling me to not use the original shafts because it will kill the value. (I've been shooting with a predator) Is it really going to hurt the value that much to shoot with one of the shafts. I clean mine every week and honestly the schonn I just got rid of ...aside from a tiny bit of blue on the ferrel you couldn't tell I ever played with it.

If you can save one of them unplayed, it will be a helpful selling point. It's always nice to have one super clean, barely used shaft when selling a cue.

Mostly what affects an original shaft's value, however, is straightness and thickness. As long as it's reasonably straight and near full thickness (13mm), even if the shaft is heavily used it can be cleaned up just like new as long as it's not damaged.

Chris
 
yeah I'm think im going to play with one of them. lol I'm not really playing with timmy if I don't .. someone asked to describe it so here's a pic or two :) Nothing I like better then showing it off anyway lol
 

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Oh and I ever use is q clean on my shafts. A few drops and it cleans right up. I never use any kind of sandpaper or scrubby pads!
 
Oh and I ever use is q clean on my shafts. A few drops and it cleans right up. I never use any kind of sandpaper or scrubby pads!

I've think I've seen pics of it before somewhere - great looking Scruggs, definitely meant to be played.

Chris
 
I played with it last night... It played incredible. Felt perfect right off the bat. In fact there was really no break in time.. With in 20 mins. I forgot about the different hit and was rocketing balls in the pocket. I was a little unsure at first because it doesn't have a layered tip but that didn't seem to make a difference that I noticed :)
 
I played with it last night... It played incredible. Felt perfect right off the bat. In fact there was really no break in time.. With in 20 mins. I forgot about the different hit and was rocketing balls in the pocket. I was a little unsure at first because it doesn't have a layered tip but that didn't seem to make a difference that I noticed :)

That's a Scruggs cue. :thumbup:

Forget about those aftermarket shafts.
 
With all due respect to Tate, we all value his opinions and experience, I've heard about an unused shaft being a selling point for years but I've never personally known anybody who bought a cue with two or more shafts because one was unused. I'm not sure how tips have developed over the years but this might mean that one tip has gone for quite a while not being used and might have to be replaced upon purchase. I've always used both {or more} shafts on my cues so that the tips/patina would be close to equal on both. I dislike the idea of having one shaft unused and having to create the patina by using it all the time or having to replace the tip because it's too hard or not my preference. Could be that's just me, though.
 
I just bought a Timmy Scruggs recently. It was used but the two shafts it came with were not. Everyone is telling me to not use the original shafts because it will kill the value. (I've been shooting with a predator) Is it really going to hurt the value that much to shoot with one of the shafts. I clean mine every week and honestly the schonn I just got rid of ...aside from a tiny bit of blue on the ferrel you couldn't tell I ever played with it.

As long as the shafts are in good clean shape and straight I don't think it will hurt the value if you were trying to sell the cue and the buyer really wanted the cue. Buying a used cue with un-played shafts is a bonus, but not enough of a bonus to add cash value to the cue.

James
 
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