I have had the electronics store still mighty Lucasi for 8 years now.
It isn't worth enough to sell but I just like it and I'm keeping it.
It plays "shockingly" well.
Can we be honest about cues?
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I have had the electronics store still mighty Lucasi for 8 years now.
It isn't worth enough to sell but I just like it and I'm keeping it.
It plays "shockingly" well.
Well said
Even though our taste is different in cues we clearly share the same appreciation to cues that match the players needs to perfection. I have no issues if someone likes to invest a few thousand in to a cue, even if they arent world class players.
Let people enjoy the game in their own way. I find fiddling about with equipment very satisfying and I have managed to find a few cues that play exactly like I want them to and still I have an order in for a new custom one.
I enjoy my cues like I do fine scotch. You cant really rationalise spending over 100$ for a bottle of liquor any more than a thousand spent on a cue but still we who appreciate the trade do buy them every now and then.
Next in line for me will be Laphroaig Lore by the way and suggestion for good whiskeys are more than welcome :wink:
The truth is you simply need your 'own' cue. An expensive cue won't make you a player and using an inexpensive won't take away your skill. But being comfortable with whatever cue you have will definitely work in your favor. When you quit worrying about the cue, you will play better.
Tate i never graduated above the 75 dollar range, but the stags leap(along with a caymus cab) or franciscan magnificat red blend were all 3 outstanding(my personal favorites anyway) best under 25 bottle for me is a franciscan napa cab(18-20 at total wine) or about 30 in grocery stores. I don,t drink anymore but ,man,give me a BIG red anytime.
You are correct, at your level it will make no difference.
Well Hallelujah
Nothing from the arrow, Indian screw balls. The ones that have seen pros run
10 racks on a snooker table using pool balls, playing with a broom, some even
shooting with the sweeping end of the broom. They only play with a certain cue
because the custom cue maker gives them thousands and thousands of dollars
a pony and a canned ham every holiday. Yet most of the time no one even knows
what cue they are playing with, now that's really getting some great advertising
for their money. Is there any custom cue makers that anyone can name that gives
away their cues and all that money for someone to use it. Which players are
the beneficiary of all this good fortune. Come own arrow Indian guys you know
all of this, name them. BS sure they can adjust to different cues but they prefer
a cue a certain way just like we do.
jack
Nothing from the arrow, Indian screw balls. The ones that have seen pros run
10 racks on a snooker table using pool balls, playing with a broom, some even
shooting with the sweeping end of the broom. They only play with a certain cue
because the custom cue maker gives them thousands and thousands of dollars
a pony and a canned ham every holiday. Yet most of the time no one even knows
what cue they are playing with, now that's really getting some great advertising
for their money. Is there any custom cue makers that anyone can name that gives
away their cues and all that money for someone to use it. Which players are
the beneficiary of all this good fortune. Come own arrow Indian guys you know
all of this, name them. BS sure they can adjust to different cues but they prefer
a cue a certain way just like we do.
jack
I can't tell sarcasm from real opinions in that.
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Who cares what the pros play with?
I stopped having heros and idols long ago.
Seriously, do any of you copy what the pros do?
I select my cues and cue-makers entirely for myself.
I don't see any pros playing with a Hercek cue but it's
my dream cue, as was my Prewitt cue, and know what,
a Danny Tibbits cue would complete my pool cue trilogy.
There aren't any pros playing with any of those cues but
I consider those 3 cue-makers to be my all time favorites.
And I don't need any pro's endorsement of my cue-makers
to make me feel better about my cues or buy one they use.
I never bought a set of golf clubs because Jack Nicklaus,
Arnold Palmer, Gary Player or Tom Watson played that
brand equipment yet they were my favorite all time players.
Instead, I played a custom fit set of Slazenger clubs and I
was very pleased with the outcome. Nope, what the pros
are playing doesn't amount to a hill of beans vs. what I use.
I stopped having heros and idols long ago.
Seriously, do any of you copy what the pros do?
I select my cues and cue-makers entirely for myself.
I don't see any pros playing with a Hercek cue but it's
my dream cue, as was my Prewitt cue, and know what,
a Danny Tibbits cue would complete my pool cue trilogy.
There aren't any pros playing with any of those cues but
I consider those 3 cue-makers to be my all time favorites.
And I don't need any pro's endorsement of my cue-makers
to make me feel better about my cues or buy one they use.
I never bought a set of golf clubs because Jack Nicklaus,
Arnold Palmer, Gary Player or Tom Watson played that
brand equipment yet they were my favorite all time players.
Instead, I played a custom fit set of Slazenger clubs and I
was very pleased with the outcome. Nope, what the pros
are playing doesn't amount to a hill of beans vs. what I use.
I've had a lot more expensive but I don't know that I've had better than a Franciscan Cab
the pros cant afford custom cues. lol.
The fact is the pro's are very particular with what they play , I just watched DO change cues in the middle of a set ,, even if they have sponsors they go thru many shafts to find one they like , to think they play the same way with any cue it's utter nonsense
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if you play with a cue that simple feels like it couldn't get any better hold on to it and enjoy because some people may never experience the feeling. if you love your equipment that much don't change for another and give up the long sought after journey of finding the perfect cue.. after owning the greatest and hitting with most of the great cues the one magical cue i owned was a sneaky pete. if you like a special cue never get rid of it cause it may be hard to replace. my dad gave me a cue he bought from france and i had lots of success and won a ton of money, a 30 dollar cue.. i thought because the french cue was plain something fancy might be nicer, wrong, my fancy cue did not perform as well..there are some really nice looking and great hitting customs out there and if you decide to try one just don't let go of that special cue that you thought was magical. have fun a play great.
if you play with a cue that simple feels like it couldn't get any better hold on to it and enjoy because some people may never experience the feeling. if you love your equipment that much don't change for another and give up the long sought after journey of finding the perfect cue.. after owning the greatest and hitting with most of the great cues the one magical cue i owned was a sneaky pete. if you like a special cue never get rid of it cause it may be hard to replace. my dad gave me a cue he bought from france and i had lots of success and won a ton of money, a 30 dollar cue.. i thought because the french cue was plain something fancy might be nicer, wrong, my fancy cue did not perform as well..there are some really nice looking and great hitting customs out there and if you decide to try one just don't let go of that special cue that you thought was magical. have fun a play great.
Definately was my "go to" bottle.
I should not have used the word ridiculous, that's too harsh. My mistake. I'm wrong because I read a lot of posts here and I guess if it wasn't for everyone discussing cues I wouldn't know sh*t. I was having long day. Obviously shaft diameters and tips change the amount of spin., 18 oz or 22 oz is a big difference etc. I shoot in a league and I see many guys with nice cues and some are really good shooters and there are some who are not so good. They miss easy shots but have expensive cues. No I'm not jealous. I just think sometimes people focus on the wrong things. However each to their own I guess. I'm not knocking anyone who sucks but has a beautiful cue. I've said this before, my buddy takes out great local players with a warped valley cue with a big fat slip on tip. That's the kinda stuff that keeps me in check.
I've seen quite a few who fit this category.
FWIW, I've played with many custom cues and that is what I play with now, but I've played with production cues that have played as well. I own some of both. Every cue plays differently...even by the same maker with the same specs. I sold my last custom Richard Black made for me because I bought a McDermott C-14 at a steal (back in 1985) and it played better than the Black.
I have a custom converted full-splice Titlist that plays as good as just about any I have played with.
I was playing today with that cue and it has a Predator FAT shaft on it. I was breaking with a cheap Players sneaky Pete. Sometimes I would be too lazy to walk back to my chair and pick up my cue after the break and I would run just as many balls with the Players as I would my custom cue. Totally different cues...one LD shaft...the other standard shaft....one G2 Soft tip...the other LePro standard tip. One slim butt...the other fatter butt. One with wrap...the other no wrap.
To me, a good playing cue is one that you "trust" to do what you want it to do. I have hit thousands of balls with all my cues....some maybe hundreds of thousands. I know if it did something for me many, many times that it isn't the cue if something goes wrong...it is me.
I was rocketing balls in at warp speed with both cues today. I know the Players deflects more than the Predator, but I was interchanging them back and forth without thinking about it.
There isn't a cue made today that should cost more than a couple hundred dollars for playability. Anything more than that is bling and name recognition. Lots of people like bling...I don't. Nothing wrong with it, but it is something that never attracted me because I consider my cue a tool. I like nice tools, but I don't buy hammers, saws, drills, etc. with inlays in them.
I had a one-piece Brunswick house cue that I fixed up myself that played just about as good as many custom cues I've played with. It just takes getting used to something so that you trust it. Trust comes from doing something over and over with the cue until you figure it out.
Original poster is right because we all started as beginners and it takes some time to acquire a feel for a cue. Being new you are more concerned with shot making and not so much cue ball control yet. As your fundamentals improve so will your game. You will find a certain balance of a cue and the feel of the hit is what you like in one stick over another. It will happen. There's a big difference between tips too but that's a different discussion.
OP: There are videos on youtube showing the difference in deflection between shafts. You might be interested and surprised.
OP: There are videos on youtube showing the difference in deflection between shafts. You might be interested and surprised.
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whoever says it's the indian and not the arrow has never shot with good arrows.
Anyone in here can get action with me as long as I am allowed to pick their cue. It will be a pool cue that adheres to the WPA and BCA specifications governing pool cues.
That said it's hard to buy a truly "bad" cue these days as the general average is way higher now than it was 20 years ago.
Anyone in here can get action with me as long as I am allowed to pick their cue. It will be a pool cue that adheres to the WPA and BCA specifications governing pool cues.
That said it's hard to buy a truly "bad" cue these days as the general average is way higher now than it was 20 years ago.
I care. Because these are the guys who are playing at the highest levels and anyone who cares about actual performance on the table would want to try and use whatever the top pros depend on.
But if all one cares about is a good feeling hit with a lot of prettiness then one has literally thousands of cues to choose from. Price from $50 to $100,000 as much as you want to spend.
But even pros can't really tell how a cue is constructed by the hit. This was revealed in an experiment done long ago. But they can certainly tell what type of hit they like.
Since you have this here as a join date Jan 2017 you can be forgiven for this post.
Just never do it again. Do a search for "it's not the arrow it's the indian" on the forums and you will see why.