Can we talk about cue safes

gregnice37

Bar Banger, Cue Collector
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So I like collecting cues. Have 13 with a few on order. Have a couple of security measures already on them but would like to get a safe for them as well.

Heard by many the way to go is shotgun safes. Problemy with that is I do think think that's big enough.

I have a jb 10x20 round case & 4 other cases with cues that would need to fit in the safe. Anyone have any recommendations on a bigger & reliable safe that won't cost a million bucks?
 
I have about 85 cues. My largest cue case is huge:

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Gun safes are great, get multiple ones if you need more room.

Expensive? Yup.


I have my cues in a walk in closet with a steel door set in a steel frame with deadbolt locks on it.

Basically it's built like a safe-room door.

I guess if somebody knows what is in there they can bust through the walls, I didn't have the walls done. But they sure as hell aren't likely getting through the door easily. :thumbup:


Get an insurance rider to cover the cues. Put a secure steel entry door on a walk-in closet. Then keep a gun safe or safes in that closet.


Alarms and cameras can help as well.

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Rifle Safes

The first safe is a 26 rifle safe........pretty spacious inside.......approx. cost $1400.
A 45 rifle safe runs approx. $1900. The 2nd photo is of a 14 rifle safe - approx. cost $850.
Both safes are rated fire resistant for up to 30 minutes duration. Both have excellent locks.
Dunno your budget or overall size requirements but the 45 rifle safe offers huge space.


Matt B.



p.s. Oops....had to come back and post the photos.......it sucks getting old.
 

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Well gun safes come in a lot of different sizes. The cost is typically related to the size and type of protection offered. Some are simply security boxes and are cheap others are fire an water rated. With the water rated ones you may even be able to control the moisture inside as well like a humidor does for cigars. Some people may think the higher end gun safes are expensive but when you compare the cost of the safe to the cost of the cues your trying to protect and store it may not look the same way to you.

As suggested add them to your insurance and maybe even consider security cameras with offsite video storage that way if they are stolen you will likely be able to identify the thief. It all depends upon how concerned you are that they will be stolen.
 
Non fire safes are cheaper. Use a Dehumidifying rod if you get a fire safe. Thick doors do not mean they are secure. Bolt it. The best safe is a hidden one. Safes fill up fast so buy the right size first if possible. Anyway watch this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltK-bDbADa8

Quick story... My first marriage (thank God it's over) ended badly. My X and someone (her family/friends) tried to get into my safe. Hammered, pry bar, etc., could not open the door. My Doc Frye was in there. I still have the cue. I used the safe for paperwork and things of sentimental value ...nothing really expensive....but the cue always meant a lot to me.
The safe was bolted to a wooden floor and into the wood studs by an amateur safe company. It pulled loose without much effort. Watch who you deal with. Seek the best company and pay the price. It's worth it. Watch the video
 
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Do your research on safes...most thieves can get into a cheaper safe within 5 minutes. The videos and info online are very discouraging.
American Security safes are highly rated. You might be surprised to find out that antique safes often provide excellent protection. Consult a good locksmith for advice.
Having said all that, bolting one to a concrete floor/wall is ideal.
 
So I like collecting cues. Have 13 with a few on order. Have a couple of security measures already on them but would like to get a safe for them as well.

Heard by many the way to go is shotgun safes. Problemy with that is I do think think that's big enough.

I have a jb 10x20 round case & 4 other cases with cues that would need to fit in the safe. Anyone have any recommendations on a bigger & reliable safe that won't cost a million bucks?


I have a Cabela's "ProVault" 18 gun safe (link below).. I have a JB 10X20 as well and 6 other cases ranging from 1X2 to 4X8 and there is room for more... Has a nice shelf on top and the middle shelf is just tall enough for the JB 10X20 to fit underneath.. It's got a decent fire rating and has flat 4" military style locking bars. Much better than the stainless rods...It's a perfect option for someone on a budget. ($530)... It is pretty heavy though..

ProVault 18 Gun Safe (link)


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Do your research on safes...most thieves can get into a cheaper safe within 5 minutes. The videos and info online are very discouraging.
American Security safes are highly rated. You might be surprised to find out that antique safes often provide excellent protection. Consult a good locksmith for advice.
Having said all that, bolting one to a concrete floor/wall is ideal.

That's why I bought a ProVault from Cabela's.. Theirs is harder to break into...
 
A proper security safe has a "minute rating". It is an estimate of how long a professional safe cracker (lock smith) would take to break into it.


Fire safes have a fire rating.


You want insurance for both. And you want a safe rated for both. If I had to lean toward one or the other it would be toward security.



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A proper security safe has a "minute rating". It is an estimate of how long a professional safe cracker (lock smith) would take to break into it.


Fire safes have a fire rating.


You want insurance for both. And you want a safe rated for both. If I had to lean toward one or the other it would be toward security.



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ProVault safes are made by Liberty safe. A great safe co. They're rebranded for Cabelas and are rated 30 min at 1200F and are not easy to break into....
 
they will keep a high school kid out. not a real burglar. he will cut through them like butter. and now he knows where your goods are.

if you are unlucky and he cant get in he justs waits till you come home and beats the heck out of you with a hammer until you open the safe for him. then takes it all anyway and maybe kills you.

just insure your sticks and make your house less desirable to breakins and hope for the best.
 
they will keep a high school kid out. not a real burglar. he will cut through them like butter. and now he knows where your goods are.

if you are unlucky and he cant get in he justs waits till you come home and beats the heck out of you with a hammer until you open the safe for him. then takes it all anyway and maybe kills you.

just insure your sticks and make your house less desirable to breakins and hope for the best.

You have good points. The best safe is one that is hidden/cancelled. Never store a safe in the garage. If I ever got another I would not tell anyone or show it off and definitely not advertise on a public forum.
 
they will keep a high school kid out. not a real burglar. he will cut through them like butter. and now he knows where your goods are.

if you are unlucky and he cant get in he justs waits till you come home and beats the heck out of you with a hammer until you open the safe for him. then takes it all anyway and maybe kills you.

just insure your sticks and make your house less desirable to breakins and hope for the best.



Best policy is not to let anybody know what you have. Keep a low profile.

But that isn't always very realistic. Everybody that posts valuable cues here has exposed themselves to an extent.




IMHO it is best to have numerous layers. Cameras and alarms. A safe or even just a locked steel cabinet that is in a room with a door that is more secure than average.

How much what you have is worth might help you figure out just how much you should spend protecting it. Sometimes security measures will lower your insurance, so that should be looked into.

Nosy neighbors can help too. :D



Many such burglaries are in fact done by amateurs or kids. If you have enough conspicuous consumption to warrant a professional coming after your stuff then you likely have the means to live with elevated security measures as well.



I like my brother's house for an example. He lives in a gated and patrolled community. He has a safe room in his house, with gun ports and accessible but hidden weapons. His gun room is a secured room with poured reinforced concrete walls, a heavy steel door with a substantial bolting mechanism. Inside that room there are gun safes that are attached to the structure. There are cameras and alarms everywhere with battery back-ups of course and wireless connections so cutting the wires to his house won't help a thief.

He has a lot to protect, and the means to put measures in place.


For typical average people with a couple or three large cue cases I think a gun safe is a relatively inexpensive measure.



Oh...and a big mean dog helps too. :wink::thumbup:







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I live in a gated community. I know of a person..... someone knew there were no motion sensors in her house ...anyway knew how to enter and easily pryed the door off of her highly sophisticated Home Depot or Office Max safe. Got her for a good substantial amount.
 
I like my brother's house for an example. He lives in a gated and patrolled community. He has a safe room in his house, with gun ports and accessible but hidden weapons. His gun room is a secured room with poured reinforced concrete walls, a heavy steel door with a substantial bolting mechanism. Inside that room there are gun safes that are attached to the structure. There are cameras and alarms everywhere with battery back-ups of course and wireless connections so cutting the wires to his house won't help a thief.

Yep.. First conversation I had with my contractor was pouring the foundation with a boxed concrete room with a 1/2 inch steel sheet backed flex core ceiling. Added a 1/4 inch steel wide profile door frame with bolt action security door. Similar electronics as your brothers setup.
 
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