Career highlights

jay helfert

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I hesitated putting this thread on here, but maybe it will be fun. Personally, not being a top player, I don't have many career highlights. Maybe my best known was my One Pocket victory over Jimmy Fusco featured in Shot, Moves and Strategy. My other most memorable win (at least for me it was) was beating Keith to win the big monthly tournament at House of Billiards in Los Angeles when all the best local players would play in it every month. I also won the San Francisco Bar Table Championship back about the same time in the 1980's.

When I owned my last pool hall (Jay's Billiards) in the early 2000's was the last time I played much pool and got into quite a few money games. My best win was over Larry Evans ('Motto') who was known locally as the King of the ghetto. I beat him a few games playing Banks and he quit. That's when one of the local guys yelled out, "Jay is the new King of the ghetto." That put a big smile on my face.

Two other memorable moments for me was the time I kicked four balls in a row (I was hooked on four consecutive shots) directly into the pocket! I did it playing 9-Ball a long time ago. But last night was another big moment for me.

I'm long since past my prime and sometimes go a week or more without hitting a ball. Two days ago, Warren and Dennis came to my house and starting banging them around on my double tough Diamond table. I just watched and hung out with them. Tang Hoa came by both days to spar with Dennis and they monopolized the table all day, which was fine with me. Late last night Dennis pipes up to me, "Are you ready to play our Bank Pool game?" He was just joking around, since we have played Banks, him giving me 5-4 on many occasions, with him usually winning about four out of five games.

He continued to rib me all in fun, until I jumped up and said okay, just one game, and I'm going to kick your ass. I hadn't hit a ball since they had been there and just grabbed my cue while Dennis racked the balls. He gave me the first break, which he always does. I broke with my playing cue and two balls went down. I had a pretty straight forward cross corner shot and lined it up, got down and banked it in. It felt good to make my first shot. Now I had a much more difficult cross corner, where I had to jack up a little to hold the cue ball and stiff the shot. I studied that one for an extra second or two and fired it in. Meanwhile all this time, Dennis is doing his best to shark me (that's how we play), counting down while I'm getting ready to shoot and stuff like that.

I had two now, with no good shot. I looked around and couldn't find anything. Tang says what about the seven? The seven ball was in a perfect place to bank it cross side but the side pocket was blocked. What I could do was try to bank it long rail down into the far corner, a pretty severe angle. I was into it now and told Dennis this one is going in, just watch. He's laughing now. I lined up the angle, took my time and banked that dirty little seven ball swish into the corner pocket. I had three! Only needed one more to win the game now.

Now everybody was razzing me. Dennis, Tang, my buddy Adrian were all making jokes at my expense. You just can't get any respect around here! This time I really had no shot. I looked and looked and was thinking about trying to cross bank the nine ball which had a slim (to none) opening to go cross corner, and I was up table from it. Tang sees how puzzled I am and says what about the two ball. The two was frozen to the far end rail, maybe a diamond and half out from the near corner pocket. It could be banked back up into the opposite far corner if hit just right. Tang was right. That was my best shot.

I took a long hard look at the two, all the time listening to all the baloney being heaped on me, with everyone doing their best to shark me. I finally got down on the ball and aimed for the left edge, got myself steady and fired away. As if guided by the Gods, that sweet little two ball was on a path toward the far corner. I watched, as the room got silent, and that damn ball went right into the middle of the pocket. I had beaten the great Dennis Orcollo 4-0 and he never came to the table!

Now, I got high fives all around and all my buddies, including my adopted son Dennis, were giving me shouts of congratulations. Maybe that's my final career highlight at age 74, but I have another memory that will last me forever. Thanks for indulging me. :smile:
 
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I hesitated putting this thread on here, but maybe it will be fun. Personally, not being a top player, I don't have many career highlights. Maybe my best known was my One Pocket victory over Jimmy Fusco featured in Shot, Moves and Strategy. My other most memorable win (at least for me it was) was beating Keith to win the big monthly tournament at House of Billiards in Los Angeles when all the best local players would play in it every month. I also won the San Francisco Bar Table Championship back about the same time in the 1980's.

When I owned my last pool hall (Jay's Billiards) in the early 2000's was the last time I played much pool and got into quite a few money games. My best win was over Larry Evans ('Motto') who was known locally as the King of the ghetto. I beat him a few games playing Banks and he quit. That's when one of the local guys yelled out, "Jay is the new King of the ghetto." That brought a big smile to my face.

Two other memorable moments for me was the time I kicked four balls in a row (I was hooked on four consecutive shots) directly into the pocket! I did it playing 9-Ball a long time ago. But last night was another big moment for me.

I'm long since past my prime and sometimes go a week or more without hitting a ball. Two days ago, Warren and Dennis came to my house and starting banging them around on my double tough Diamond table. I just watched and hung out with them. Tang Hoa came by both days to spar with Dennis and they monopolized the table all day, which was fine with me. Late last night Dennis pipes up to me, "Are you ready to play our Bank Pool game?" He was just joking around, since we have played Banks, him giving me 5-4 on many occasions, with him usually winning about four out of five games.

He continued to rib me all in fun, until I jumped up and said okay, just one game, and I'm going to kick your ass. I hadn't hit a ball since they had been there and just grabbed my cue while Dennis racked the balls. He gave me the first break, which he always does. I broke with my playing cue and two balls went down. I had a pretty straight forward cross corner shot and lined it up, got down and banked it in. It felt good to make my first shot. Now I had a much more difficult cross corner, where I had to jack up a little to hold the cue ball and stiff the shot. I studied that one for an extra second or two and fired it in. Meanwhile all this time, Dennis is doing his best to shark me (that's how we play), counting down while I'm getting ready to shoot and stuff like that.

I had two now, with no good shot. I looked around and couldn't find anything. Tang says what about the seven? The seven ball was in a perfect place to bank it cross side but the side pocket was blocked. What I could do was try to bank it long rail down into the far corner, a pretty severe angle. I was into it now and told Dennis this one is going in, just watch. He's laughing now. I lined up the angle, took my time and banked that dirty little seven ball swish into the corner pocket. I had three! Only needed one more to win the game now.

Now everybody was razzing me. Dennis, Tang, my buddy Adrian were all making jokes at my expense. You just can't get any respect around here! This time I really had no shot. I looked and looked and was thinking about trying to cross bank the nine ball which had a slim (to none) opening to go cross corner, and I was up table from it. Tang sees how puzzled I am and says what about the two ball. The two was frozen to the far end rail, maybe a diamond and half out from the near corner pocket. It could be banked back up into the opposite far corner if hit just right. Tang was right. That was my best shot.

I took a long hard look at the two, all the time listening to all the baloney being heaped on me, with everyone doing their best to shark me. I finally got down on the ball and aimed for the left edge, got myself steady and fired away. As if guided by the Gods, that sweet little two ball was on a path toward the far corner. I watched, as the room got silent, and that damn ball went right into the middle of the pocket. I had beaten the great Dennis Orcollo 4-0 and he never came to the table!

Now, I got high fives all around and all my buddies, including my adopted son Dennis, were giving me shouts of congratulations. Maybe that's my final career highlight at age 74, but I have another memory that will last me forever. Thanks for indulging me. :smile:

Sweet dreams are made of this
Who am I to disagree?


~ Annie Lennox ~


These are the reasons we get up in the morning, Jay... in many ways they might be considered just small things, but they sure go a long way toward making it all worthwhile! :yeah:
 
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I don't have many either. However I did get to play doubles with Johnny Archer in a charity event one time. Each person at the Event got to bid on their doubles partner. I got to play with Johnny and we won several rounds until the finals. We played John Morra and his partner. They were really good. I missed like 3 easy shots. It was odd playing on the TV Table. We were making a run and I got down to shoot a 8 ball to put Johnny in line for the 9. I shot the 8 and missed. Suddenly there was a "Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" collectively from everyone around the table. I was zoned in, I had completely forgot people were watching from the VIP Seats. Scared me to death.

Anyway.., It was a lot of Fun. Him and I beat, Sky and his partner, Buddy Hall and his partner and Loree Jon and her partner. Great event for a good cause.
 
I hesitated putting this thread on here, but maybe it will be fun. Personally, not being a top player, I don't have many career highlights. Maybe my best known was my One Pocket victory over Jimmy Fusco featured in Shot, Moves and Strategy. My other most memorable win (at least for me it was) was beating Keith to win the big monthly tournament at House of Billiards in Los Angeles when all the best local players would play in it every month. I also won the San Francisco Bar Table Championship back about the same time in the 1980's.

When I owned my last pool hall (Jay's Billiards) in the early 2000's was the last time I played much pool and got into quite a few money games. My best win was over Larry Evans ('Motto') who was known locally as the King of the ghetto. I beat him a few games playing Banks and he quit. That's when one of the local guys yelled out, "Jay is the new King of the ghetto." That brought a big smile to my face.

Two other memorable moments for me was the time I kicked four balls in a row (I was hooked on four consecutive shots) directly into the pocket! I did it playing 9-Ball a long time ago. But last night was another big moment for me.

I'm long since past my prime and sometimes go a week or more without hitting a ball. Two days ago, Warren and Dennis came to my house and starting banging them around on my double tough Diamond table. I just watched and hung out with them. Tang Hoa came by both days to spar with Dennis and they monopolized the table all day, which was fine with me. Late last night Dennis pipes up to me, "Are you ready to play our Bank Pool game?" He was just joking around, since we have played Banks, him giving me 5-4 on many occasions, with him usually winning about four out of five games.

He continued to rib me all in fun, until I jumped up and said okay, just one game, and I'm going to kick your ass. I hadn't hit a ball since they had been there and just grabbed my cue while Dennis racked the balls. He gave me the first break, which he always does. I broke with my playing cue and two balls went down. I had a pretty straight forward cross corner shot and lined it up, got down and banked it in. It felt good to make my first shot. Now I had a much more difficult cross corner, where I had to jack up a little to hold the cue ball and stiff the shot. I studied that one for an extra second or two and fired it in. Meanwhile all this time, Dennis is doing his best to shark me (that's how we play), counting down while I'm getting ready to shoot and stuff like that.

I had two now, with no good shot. I looked around and couldn't find anything. Tang says what about the seven? The seven ball was in a perfect place to bank it cross side but the side pocket was blocked. What I could do was try to bank it long rail down into the far corner, a pretty severe angle. I was into it now and told Dennis this one is going in, just watch. He's laughing now. I lined up the angle, took my time and banked that dirty little seven ball swish into the corner pocket. I had three! Only needed one more to win the game now.

Now everybody was razzing me. Dennis, Tang, my buddy Adrian were all making jokes at my expense. You just can't get any respect around here! This time I really had no shot. I looked and looked and was thinking about trying to cross bank the nine ball which had a slim (to none) opening to go cross corner, and I was up table from it. Tang sees how puzzled I am and says what about the two ball. The two was frozen to the far end rail, maybe a diamond and half out from the near corner pocket. It could be banked back up into the opposite far corner if hit just right. Tang was right. That was my best shot.

I took a long hard look at the two, all the time listening to all the baloney being heaped on me, with everyone doing their best to shark me. I finally got down on the ball and aimed for the left edge, got myself steady and fired away. As if guided by the Gods, that sweet little two ball was on a path toward the far corner. I watched, as the room got silent, and that damn ball went right into the middle of the pocket. I had beaten the great Dennis Orcollo 4-0 and he never came to the table!

Now, I got high fives all around and all my buddies, including my adopted son Dennis, were giving me shouts of congratulations. Maybe that's my final career highlight at age 74, but I have another memory that will last me forever. Thanks for indulging me. :smile:
That's awesome sauce!
 
Great story Jay.

I’m not a great player but I get enough good wins with my friends to make me feel like a pro.
A good friend of mine you to say, “ you might not get the dinner, but at least you got a sandwich “
 
One pocket...break-and-run 3 games.

League MVP...80% wins. 29 consecutive wins.
 
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Awesome story Jay … I remember Adrian … cool dude as well !!

Too bad you don't live closer or I would give you some more good career highlight WIN stories to tell...…...
 
Jay,

I always hated pool tournaments. All my greatest moments were gambling.

Drove into Omaha one afternoon. Found Florian DePaglio in the pool pool.

He wanted 8 to 4 and the break for $200. a game.

Won the first game by running 8 and out. He sent for more money.

While I was waiting I called Alf Taylor to get a line on this guy.
He said I was in a trap and the Florian was stalling and was also subject to rob me.

I wanted the action anyway.

Second game we played for $400. and I won it with his game ball in the jaws.

Last game we played for $800. He ran 3 and had his game ball in the jaws again. I thing he stalled again.

I made a 4 rail bank in my hole and ran out. He quit.

I gave Joe the houseman $50. to walk me to my car with a pistol.

Good times,

Bill S.
 
I made "Deathball" stutter once and then he was at a loss for words. :thumbup:
 
Now, I got high fives all around and all my buddies, including my adopted son Dennis, were giving me shouts of congratulations. Maybe that's my final career highlight at age 74, but I have another memory that will last me forever. Thanks for indulging me. :smile:



Awesome story Jay, but you know what this means right....?


No More 5-4 for YOU.

Congrats
 
Pros I've played from most recent to the 80's. Up means I left ahead. Down means I left loser. Always played cheap ($50 - $500) sets played even.

Danny Smith (down)
Josh Roberts (up)
Warren (up)
Casper the ghost (up)

Two years ago rocket city open:

Dennis O (down)
Alex the lion (down)
Sky (up)
Busti... (up)

Early 80's in Vegas:

Earl the pearl (up)
Buddy hall (down)
The scorpion (down)

Sets played in 80's was 9 ball, str8 pool and American rotation.

All but one of the recent sets was 10 ball.

The sets ranged from race to 5 for $50 to race to 20 for $500 depending on game and player...... not to mention whether or not the wife was there lol....

Rake
 
the highlight of my life in pool.
i played an exhibition game of straight pool against Willie Mosconi in 1964.
i was crushed as expected.
but i got to play him.
 
I had been playing at Q-Masters for some time and didn't know if I was ready for Dave Bollman but also knew that If I didn't try, I would never know.

One night I got lucky. I saw that Dave was playing with a couple others and decided to ask if I could give it a shot for which I was eagerly accepted. They told me what they were playing for and I jumped right in.

I had someone meeting me so I couldn't play long.

Long story short, in the span of about 45 mins, I won at least 4 or 5 times...against ALL of them.

Shortly thereafter, my date arrived and I told everyone I had to go. I stood up from the poker table and asked Dave if we could play pool one day and he said..sure.


Seriously though, I don't want to hijack this thread but I do have a question for Jay. Check your inbox in a few.
 
I hesitated putting this thread on here, but maybe it will be fun. Personally, not being a top player, I don't have many career highlights. Maybe my best known was my One Pocket victory over Jimmy Fusco featured in Shot, Moves and Strategy. My other most memorable win (at least for me it was) was beating Keith to win the big monthly tournament at House of Billiards in Los Angeles when all the best local players would play in it every month. I also won the San Francisco Bar Table Championship back about the same time in the 1980's.

When I owned my last pool hall (Jay's Billiards) in the early 2000's was the last time I played much pool and got into quite a few money games. My best win was over Larry Evans ('Motto') who was known locally as the King of the ghetto. I beat him a few games playing Banks and he quit. That's when one of the local guys yelled out, "Jay is the new King of the ghetto." That brought a big smile to my face.

Two other memorable moments for me was the time I kicked four balls in a row (I was hooked on four consecutive shots) directly into the pocket! I did it playing 9-Ball a long time ago. But last night was another big moment for me.

I'm long since past my prime and sometimes go a week or more without hitting a ball. Two days ago, Warren and Dennis came to my house and starting banging them around on my double tough Diamond table. I just watched and hung out with them. Tang Hoa came by both days to spar with Dennis and they monopolized the table all day, which was fine with me. Late last night Dennis pipes up to me, "Are you ready to play our Bank Pool game?" He was just joking around, since we have played Banks, him giving me 5-4 on many occasions, with him usually winning about four out of five games.

He continued to rib me all in fun, until I jumped up and said okay, just one game, and I'm going to kick your ass. I hadn't hit a ball since they had been there and just grabbed my cue while Dennis racked the balls. He gave me the first break, which he always does. I broke with my playing cue and two balls went down. I had a pretty straight forward cross corner shot and lined it up, got down and banked it in. It felt good to make my first shot. Now I had a much more difficult cross corner, where I had to jack up a little to hold the cue ball and stiff the shot. I studied that one for an extra second or two and fired it in. Meanwhile all this time, Dennis is doing his best to shark me (that's how we play), counting down while I'm getting ready to shoot and stuff like that.

I had two now, with no good shot. I looked around and couldn't find anything. Tang says what about the seven? The seven ball was in a perfect place to bank it cross side but the side pocket was blocked. What I could do was try to bank it long rail down into the far corner, a pretty severe angle. I was into it now and told Dennis this one is going in, just watch. He's laughing now. I lined up the angle, took my time and banked that dirty little seven ball swish into the corner pocket. I had three! Only needed one more to win the game now.

Now everybody was razzing me. Dennis, Tang, my buddy Adrian were all making jokes at my expense. You just can't get any respect around here! This time I really had no shot. I looked and looked and was thinking about trying to cross bank the nine ball which had a slim (to none) opening to go cross corner, and I was up table from it. Tang sees how puzzled I am and says what about the two ball. The two was frozen to the far end rail, maybe a diamond and half out from the near corner pocket. It could be banked back up into the opposite far corner if hit just right. Tang was right. That was my best shot.

I took a long hard look at the two, all the time listening to all the baloney being heaped on me, with everyone doing their best to shark me. I finally got down on the ball and aimed for the left edge, got myself steady and fired away. As if guided by the Gods, that sweet little two ball was on a path toward the far corner. I watched, as the room got silent, and that damn ball went right into the middle of the pocket. I had beaten the great Dennis Orcollo 4-0 and he never came to the table!

Now, I got high fives all around and all my buddies, including my adopted son Dennis, were giving me shouts of congratulations. Maybe that's my final career highlight at age 74, but I have another memory that will last me forever. Thanks for indulging me. :smile:
Pard, you've earned your "road stripes" so don't sweat it. In fact, keep it comin. All your stuff is first-rate.
 
the highlight of my life in pool.
i played an exhibition game of straight pool against Willie Mosconi in 1964.
i was crushed as expected.
but i got to play him.
That is certainly a memorable highlight most of us here have great envy of you for. That was 54 years ago, so I assume you must been fairly young at the time? To have been asked to play him, you must have been the best 14.1 player around.
 
No career highlights to speak of "yet"... But a few near-misses.

2012 - Led Josh O'Neal (top 9 ball player from TN) in the Music City Open, something like 5-2 going to 7, but lost when he ran a bunch of racks..
2012 - Lead John Morra 2-1 in the first round of the DCC One Pocket (with SVB sweating the match), but lost
2012 - Put a 4 pack on Joey Gray in the DCC 9 Ball going to 7, but lost when he played perfect after that.
2013-ish - Played James Davis Sr. (Bastrop) in TX, down 7-2 going to 9 in a 9 ball match, won the next 6 games not missing a ball, and breaking and running a bunch of racks, and played a lockup safe in the hill game, accidentally banked a ball two rails in the side, safing myself. He won with ball in hand and then broke and ran for the win.

2016-ish - Got to 2-2 against Cliff Joyner in the DCC One Pocket, but lost. I banked horribly (due to my Red Label Diamond)

2018 - Led Scott Frost back-to-back games in a DCC One Pocket match, 5-0, 6-0... Short-stroked the out ball both time and let him get away. Just a moderate amount of practice, on ill setup club Gold Crowns here in Germany.

I don't play that many tournaments, and it was only in 2012 that I put any heavy practice in before DCC, but it was on an extremely short-banking Red Label Diamond.

I just got a nice Gold Crown III installed, that banks well, and will be going to Derby in January. I am hoping to finally break through and take a few pro scalps..
 
I looked around and couldn't find anything. Tang says what about the seven?

...

Tang sees how puzzled I am and says what about the two ball?.

What I learned from reading this is that you could be a world beater if the rules allowed Tang to coach you :grin-square:
 
the highlight of my life in pool.
i played an exhibition game of straight pool against Willie Mosconi in 1964.
i was crushed as expected.
but i got to play him.

Been there, done that. Willie picked me for his next victim at Ye Billiard Den in Hollywood in 1968. He knew me from watching me ref some Straight Pool matches. He won the lag and deliberately left me a long thin cut shot on the corner ball. I don't remember ever being so nervous before as I got down to shoot the ball. It was like I completely forgot how to play pool and I had been playing for five straight years at that time.

I took a couple of strokes and fired at the ball. The cue ball barely touched the object ball as it went past, and then broke open the pack coming off the back rail. Pancho yelled out, "He hit it!". The packed house all laughed together at his joke. I wanted to crawl into a hole. Willie ran 31 balls and gave me a wide open rack to shoot at. I ran nine balls and missed. Then he went into Mosconi mode and ran the final 119 perfectly, never getting out of line and never having to shoot a hard shot. The cue ball looked like he had it on a string.

We shook hands and someone snapped our picture at that moment (DAMN, I lost my copy of that pic years ago). What I remember afterward is some lady saying that Mosconi wasn't that good because he never had to shoot a hard shot! If she only knew.
 
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It was just an exhibition but I played Mosconi a race to 1,000 once. He started with a run of 526 and then I ran out the match. Unfortunately left after Mosconi's 526 so there were no witnesses but that was a big highlight.
 
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