Carolina Custom Cue - worth $1350?

FAST_N_LOOSE said:
I Will Try To Find Out What Retail Price Would Be If It Was Ordered From Carolina Directly. If I Find Out, I Will Post It.
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I HATE TO DO THIS, BUT THAT CUE IS 1100 IF ORDERED FROM CAROLINA.

SO, NOW SOMEBODY GO FIND ME A CUEMAKER TO MAKE ME AN EIGHT POINT CUE,(WITH TRUE SPLICED POINTS) WITH A LEATHER WRAP, MY CHOICE OF VENEERS, WEIGHT, AND LENGTH, FOR 1100.00 AND I WILL BE IMPRESSED.
 
bbhistorian said:
Well put... In case there is any question I have semi-detailed timeline on both the duration of "production" cues at Black Boar (limited to the first couple of years) and Bill McDaniel's participation in the first set of cues made.

Can't speak to Carolina Cues and I won't try... picking a cue is subjective...I just hope you find the right cue for you! Good Luck!
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As the Historian for BB,can you expound on McDaniel's involvement with BB as related to you by Tony. I know, and several others do also,but I think the majority of AZ'ers would like to hear the story ,for clarity,if nothing more.
 
FAST_N_LOOSE said:
IF YOU COULD PUT A COHERENT THOUGHT IN A POST, I WOULD VALUE YOUR OPINION.

I WOULD AGREE THAT A GILBERT AT THIS POINT WILL BE A BETTER CUE, BUT IT WILL COST YOU THREE TIMES AS MUCH AS A CC.

P.S. I THINK YOU MAY HAVE SOME UNDERLYING ISSUES WITH CC, AND THAT'S WHERE THESE POSTS ARE COMING FROM
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FNL i have no problem with the CC cues or the makers. All i was saying Is that i could not and would not buy a cue from a new Cue maker at 1300 or more .

CC makes a nice looking cue but if the price was better i'll just might get one to see how they hit .Something low end to start out ,then maybe put more money into another one somewere down the line .

I was not looking to start a war over this, it's just talk about a cue stick. and a price ,For POOL STICK IT'S WOOD. NOT GOLD
My 2cents..
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FAST_N_LOOSE said:
THANKS MARTIN, EVERY ONCE IN AWHILE I HAVE A GOOD POINT.

P.S. I THINK THE GUY ATTACKING CC IS SOMEONE WHO HAS HAD A PAST BAD DEAL WITH CAROLINA, AND I ALSO THINK HE HAS MORE THAN ONE USER ID.
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FNL
I feel you have mixed up with a guy that was on here sometime back and i'm not him or who ever .

So i ask you don't put in with someone a lot of people in here had some bad blood or whatever with ,I'm me and thats the only i can be...
Thanks .
 
hangemhigh said:
As the Historian for BB,can you expound on McDaniel's involvement with BB as related to you by Tony. I know, and several others do also,but I think the majority of AZ'ers would like to hear the story ,for clarity,if nothing more.
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Happy to...! This LINK will take you to the story as I know it.
 
bbhistorian said:
Happy to...! This LINK will take you to the story as I know it.
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From the horse he talks .I was on line I found this so Now you tell me . This is form Someone that works for CC Custom cue Or production

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=35724

To answer your questions, we are a "small production shop."
"Our goal is to produce the highest quality production cues", with emphasis on the traditional styles.
There are currently 3 hall of fame players using our cues, and they are all very pleased.

We have been making cues for only a few months and we are improving our methods every day. To any that are not satisfied with the
fit and finish of their cues, we have recently changed finishing products and improved our wraps. Please feel free to ship
any cue you are not pleased with back to us and we will refinish and rewrap it at no charge.

Thank you for everyones interest and you can get our cues from us or online at www.competitionsports.com and www.customcuesandtips.com
We will send you pics if you ask our webiste is not up with pics but does give you the back ground of us.

Trevor Donahue
Carolina Cues
Shop Manager
704-489-8360

The boss Of CC production cues shop.. wrote this ..
Now what can you say if the boss That runs and owns the shop said it him self and someone who works at the shop .

Now Do do the math .

REALIZM Will put all BS cue makers in the light "

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=42547<<<<<----- the bosses words...
 
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low end

Realizm said:
FNL i have no problem with the CC cues or the makers. All i was saying Is that i could not and would not buy a cue from a new Cue maker at 1300 or more .

CC makes a nice looking cue but if the price was better i'll just might get one to see how they hit .Something low end to start out ,then maybe put more money into another one somewere down the line .

I was not looking to start a war over this, it's just talk about a cue stick. and a price ,For POOL STICK IT'S WOOD. NOT GOLD
My 2cents..
.
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Thats what I did. Their cues hit good. Workmanship on the three I have had has been good as well. And they are getting better.
 
Realizm,
I Am Also Not Looking For A War.

I Am Only Discussing The Work, And The Pricing For These Cues.

Yes The Shop Is Set Up To Turn Out Large Numbers Of Cues, So In A Sense It Is Production. They Also On The Other Hand Build True Custom Cues, Where The Customer Gets To Choose Everything About The Cue. That I Consider To Be Custom. Give Any Of The Production Companies A Call, And See If You Can Design Your Own Cue, And See What Price They Give You.

The Cue That Is In This Thread Is An 1100 Dollar Cue From Carolina. My Only Point Is, There Is No Cuemaker, That I Know Of, That Can Give You That Much Work For The Same Price.

I Can Also Say That I Have A Batch Of Cues Coming From These Guys, That I Am Certain, The Production Cue Shops Could Not/would Not Build For Anyone. I Will Post Pictures As Soon As I Have Them.
 
FAST_N_LOOSE said:
Realizm,
I Am Also Not Looking For A War.

I Am Only Discussing The Work, And The Pricing For These Cues.

Yes The Shop Is Set Up To Turn Out Large Numbers Of Cues, So In A Sense It Is Production. They Also On The Other Hand Build True Custom Cues, Where The Customer Gets To Choose Everything About The Cue. That I Consider To Be Custom. Give Any Of The Production Companies A Call, And See If You Can Design Your Own Cue, And See What Price They Give You.

The Cue That Is In This Thread Is An 1100 Dollar Cue From Carolina. My Only Point Is, There Is No Cuemaker, That I Know Of, That Can Give You That Much Work For The Same Price.

I Can Also Say That I Have A Batch Of Cues Coming From These Guys, That I Am Certain, The Production Cue Shops Could Not/would Not Build For Anyone. I Will Post Pictures As Soon As I Have Them.
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I'll buy one from you if the price is right..And i'll be the judge of the cue and it craftmen shop,, Is that good with you...
 
Realizm said:
From the horse he talks .I was on line I found this so Now you tell me . This is form Someone that works for CC Custom cue Or production

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=35724

To answer your questions, we are a "small production shop."
"Our goal is to produce the highest quality production cues", with emphasis on the traditional styles.
There are currently 3 hall of fame players using our cues, and they are all very pleased.

We have been making cues for only a few months and we are improving our methods every day. To any that are not satisfied with the
fit and finish of their cues, we have recently changed finishing products and improved our wraps. Please feel free to ship
any cue you are not pleased with back to us and we will refinish and rewrap it at no charge.

Thank you for everyones interest and you can get our cues from us or online at www.competitionsports.com and www.customcuesandtips.com
We will send you pics if you ask our webiste is not up with pics but does give you the back ground of us.

Trevor Donahue
Carolina Cues
Shop Manager
704-489-8360

The boss Of CC production cues shop.. wrote this ..
Now what can you say if the boss That runs and owns the shop said it him self and someone who works at the shop .

Now Do do the math .

REALIZM Will put all BS cue makers in the light "

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=42547<<<<<----- the bosses words...
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I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS IN THAT POST THAT MAKES THEM BS CUEMAKERS? CAN YOU EXPLAIN IT TO ME?

I KNOW HE SAID PRODUCTION SHOP, AND I HAVEN
'T SAID THEY WEREN'T, BUT I DID SAY THAT THEY ALSO BUILD NICE CUSTOM CUES AS WELL. AND FOR THE PRICE OF THE CUSTOMS, THEY ARE TOUGH TO BEAT.

IF YOU CAN BUILD A TRADITIONALLY SPLICED 8 POINT CUE, WITH INLAYS, AND A LEATHER WRAP, AS CHEAP AS THEY CAN, YOU SHOULD START. I AM SURE YOU WOULD HAVE ALL THE ORDERS YOU COULD HANDLE.

P.S. I KNOW YOU CLAIMED YOU AREN'T DEADSTROKE32, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT I DON'T BELIEVE YOU, AND THAT MANY OTHERS ON THIS FORUM DON'T BELIEVE YOU EITHER. AND IF YOU AREN'T THE THEIF THAT SCREWED CC CUES OVER, THEN YOU AT SOME POINT ALSO HAD SOMETHING GO WRONG WITH THEM.

P.S.S. I WON'T BE SELLING ANY OF MY CC CUES TO YOU, I WOULDN'T WANT YOU TO TELL ME HOW OVERPRICED IT IS.
 
Realizm said:
I'll buy one from you if the price is right..And i'll be the judge of the cue and it craftmen shop,, Is that good with you...
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I WOULDN'T EVEN WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOUR "RIGHT" PRICE WOULD BE. I'M SORRY, I DON'T THINK THEY CAN BUILD YOU A CUE WITH 100 INLAYS FOR 40 DOLLARS.
 
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i saw quite a few of these cues. i picked a few up and threw them down in bc i was going to be sick. points were terrible uneven and veneers were comming apart. they do have some nice designs and when the get it together they will be ok
 
dave sutton said:
i saw quite a few of these cues. i picked a few up and threw them down in bc i was going to be sick. points were terrible uneven and veneers were comming apart. they do have some nice designs and when the get it together they will be ok
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I ALSO SAW SOME THAT WERE NOT PERFECT. I POINTED OUT THE FLAWS, AND THEY ARE CONTINUALLY GETTING BETTER. I FEEL THAT STATING THEY WERE TERRIBLE, IS UNFAIR. I'VE SEEN A LOT OF CUES, AND THESE WERE NOT ANYWHERE NEAR THE WORST THAT I HAVE SEEN.
 
FAST_N_LOOSE said:
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS IN THAT POST THAT MAKES THEM BS CUEMAKERS? CAN YOU EXPLAIN IT TO ME?
It not just them we have a lot out here and i'm going to put them all on blast...

I KNOW HE SAID PRODUCTION SHOP, AND I HAVEN
'T SAID THEY WEREN'T, BUT I DID SAY THAT THEY ALSO BUILD NICE CUSTOM CUES AS WELL. AND FOR THE PRICE OF THE CUSTOMS, THEY ARE TOUGH TO BEAT. <<<< ---- true ...

IF YOU CAN BUILD A TRADITIONALLY SPLICED 8 POINT CUE, WITH INLAYS, AND A LEATHER WRAP, AS CHEAP AS THEY CAN, YOU SHOULD START. I AM SURE YOU WOULD HAVE ALL THE ORDERS YOU COULD HANDLE.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=42547

P.S.S. I WON'T BE SELLING ANY OF MY CC CUES TO YOU, " what why not ?"I WOULDN'T WANT YOU TO TELL ME HOW OVERPRICED IT IS. "lol" "we can be good friends "
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"I thank you for beening real with me . But if you feel my friend that im deadstroke32 i'll be him just to make you happy.:)


http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=42547
 
FAST_N_LOOSE said:
I ALSO SAW SOME THAT WERE NOT PERFECT. I POINTED OUT THE FLAWS, AND THEY ARE CONTINUALLY GETTING BETTER. I FEEL THAT STATING THEY WERE TERRIBLE, IS UNFAIR. I'VE SEEN A LOT OF CUES, AND THESE WERE NOT ANYWHERE NEAR THE WORST THAT I HAVE SEEN.
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I saw the same, said something, they knew it already ... and they went home from VF hoping to "fix it". I think they will. None of the ones I have had, were flawed. The wood they used was was spectacular.
 
FAST_N_LOOSE said:
I HATE TO DO THIS, BUT THAT CUE IS 1100 IF ORDERED FROM CAROLINA.

SO, NOW SOMEBODY GO FIND ME A CUEMAKER TO MAKE ME AN EIGHT POINT CUE,(WITH TRUE SPLICED POINTS) WITH A LEATHER WRAP, MY CHOICE OF VENEERS, WEIGHT, AND LENGTH, FOR 1100.00 AND I WILL BE IMPRESSED.
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I'll do it, send me your specs and I will get you one built for $1100.

:-)
 
bbhistorian said:
Happy to...! This LINK will take you to the story as I know it.
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Just so you know, Dieter's last name is spelled Eisele not Eisley. It's pronounced Eyes-a-lay.

I know Dieter very well. He is especially proud of having outfitted Bustamante with the Black Boar at the time. And he is equally proud of pointing out that Bustamante has never done as well with the Bear Brand made by Falcon.

Thank you for putting up this history of Black Boar cues. It just goes to show that there are many paths to a great achievement and often many hands share in it.
 
FAST_N_LOOSE said:
I ALSO SAW SOME THAT WERE NOT PERFECT. I POINTED OUT THE FLAWS, AND THEY ARE CONTINUALLY GETTING BETTER. I FEEL THAT STATING THEY WERE TERRIBLE, IS UNFAIR. I'VE SEEN A LOT OF CUES, AND THESE WERE NOT ANYWHERE NEAR THE WORST THAT I HAVE SEEN.
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id hate to see the cues your talking about. i think they have a good eye for whats nice and they will be good. but the cues i saw that im talking about were just as i said b4 terrible. i wouldnt have even taken they with me to the sho. ive never seen points os uneven. my first cue was alot better than these. they are getting it together. the cues are pretty. i just couldnt brlieve they had those for sale or to show. if mottey made a cue like that hed throw it right in the fireplace. would NEVER leave his shop! thats what i was saing. i know every1 has to start somewhere. my finish IMO is subpar. i dont show my cues to really anyone yet and i make a very solid cue but my finish needs time
 
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