Cenntennial, Anniversary, Gold Crown 1, 2, and 3 frames, how flat do think they are

realkingcobra said:
Where's all the "Anniversaries were the best" supporters?
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Only your 3rd response, and just listen to your tone. Can you justify the above quote as anything less than trying to encourage a nasty thread? No reason to use such clearly provocative statements. I come here to learn and make new friends, not insult or antagonize others.

I don't apologize for my statements when you are clearly looking for a fight or to talk down to others, or in any way do I apologize for my love of arguably the two finest and most beautiful tables ever made; the Anniversary and the Centennial.

This is a sad thread. I don't like to post negative comments. Yet clearly, I'm not alone. My greenies overfloweth.

Many of us appreciate your input, but just wish you had a better way of expressing yourself. I'd like to remain on a friendly basis, but judging by your similarly insulting retorts to me and others, that ship has most likely, sadly sailed.

Spare me the argument back. That will only serve to make matters worse. Try to have a better day today, and realize what's truly important in life...
 
yankee817299 said:
The Anniversaries, Centennials, and Gold Crowns were built back in the 40's, 50's & 60's. Who was Brunswicks biggest competition back in those days? Was the slate platform that far off level coming out of the factory at the time these tables were built, or did the frame get out of whack over time or through mis-handling. RKC, your fix for the problem looks very impressive, but would it have been needed when the tables were new?
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AMF was Brunswicks main competition back then, who also built a similar type of frame. If Brunswick would have built in the same kind of blocking supports as I showed here, no the frames wouldn't have dropped on the outside perimeter like they have, which like I said, they modified the GC4 ' s & 5's to have the extra support.
 
realkingcobra said:
AMF was Brunswicks main competition back then, who also built a similar type of frame. If Brunswick would have built in the same kind of blocking supports as I showed here, no the frames wouldn't have dropped on the outside perimeter like they have, which like I said, they modified the GC4 ' s & 5's to have the extra support.
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Mail me some. I'll pay for them.
Or can I get them at Home Depot ?
 
Ralph Kramden said:
Glen... I'm not questioning your work as I think it's great. My question is about the floor and the stands the GC frame is sitting on.
Did you level the horses (stands) before working on the frame? It wouldn't make any difference except for the frame thickness.
The frame thickness, end to end and side to side, could be somewhat different. Guess that's what shims are for... just wondering.

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The frame sits on inverted carriage bolts mounted to the saw horses, the carriage bolts go through the frame rail mounting plates and can be adjusted for height/level. Then my rail system to recut the frame mounts to the bottom of the frame, so it levels with the frame when the frame is leveled.
 
Sometimes I think that getting into discussions about who makes the best table or cue are just not relevant. Right now Diamonds are the best table. In the 1940's,50's and 60's Brunswicks were the best. Rambow and Balabushka made the best cues in their time but they wouldn't be rated as even good by todays standards. What hasn't been mentioned too much is the sound that a table makes when the ball is pocketed. When learning to play on Brunswick's, the sound we heard and learned to love is not reconstructed on Diamonds and even though I do all my playing on Diamonds and love their play, when I get to a Gold Crown 1 or 2, that sound of the ball being pocketed is like eating moms cooking.
 
Bob 14:1 said:
Only your 3rd response, and just listen to your tone. Can you justify the above quote as anything less than trying to encourage a nasty thread? No reason to use such clearly provocative statements. I come here to learn and make new friends, not insult or antagonize others.

I don't apologize for my statements when you are clearly looking for a fight or to talk down to others, or in any way do I apologize for my love of arguably the two finest and most beautiful tables ever made; the Anniversary and the Centennial.

This is a sad thread. I don't like to post negative comments. Yet clearly, I'm not alone. My greenies overfloweth.

Many of us appreciate your input, but just wish you had a better way of expressing yourself. I'd like to remain on a friendly basis, but judging by your similarly insulting retorts to me and others, that ship has most likely, sadly sailed.

Spare me the argument back. That will only serve to make matters worse. Try to have a better day today, and realize what's truly important in life...
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So, why didn't you take your own advice and refrain from posting;)
 
Baby Huey said:
Sometimes I think that getting into discussions about who makes the best table or cue are just not relevant. Right now Diamonds are the best table. In the 1940's,50's and 60's Brunswicks were the best. Rambow and Balabushka made the best cues in their time but they wouldn't be rated as even good by todays standards. What hasn't been mentioned too much is the sound that a table makes when the ball is pocketed. When learning to play on Brunswick's, the sound we heard and learned to love is not reconstructed on Diamonds and even though I do all my playing on Diamonds and love their play, when I get to a Gold Crown 1 or 2, that sound of the ball being pocketed is like eating moms cooking.
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That sound of the balls being pocketed could have been coming from worn out facing, wrong pocket liners, loose pocket castings, or any other number of things that an aged pool table suffers from:thumbup:
 
These pictures show the finish of the frame work, notice there's no support wood in the middle of the frame, and I've removed the backing from the slate, that's because I don't want the slate touching anywhere but on the outside of the frame so there's no chance of any interference from the middle of the frame when it's time to level the slates. The only thing that goes in the middle of the frame is the leveling system that can either raise or lower the center of the slates as needed.

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classic/antique tables are just like classic/antique cars.
they are a culturally rich representation of the designs, tastes, and technology of their era.

most certainly "the new" can be built somehow better than the old, but on the other hand, certain designs and styles can be timeless, and need no improvements at all.

people love a 57 Chevy because its a 57 Chevy.
who cares if a Honda civic can run rings around it using 3/4 less gas.
 
Mr. Bond said:
classic/antique tables are just like classic/antique cars.
they are a culturally rich representation of the designs, tastes, and technology of their era.

most certainly "the new" can be built somehow better than the old, but on the other hand, certain designs and styles can be timeless, and need no improvements at all.

people love a 57 Chevy because its a 57 Chevy.
who cares if a Honda civic can run rings around it using 3/4 less gas.
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Thank you

Dale(who would have cited a 70 Camaro, but who's counting)
 
Kimmo H. said:
RKC, your work looks absolutely amazing, im stunned by the amount of work you have had to put in to learning all that. Too bad there are so many haters around here picking on you and your extraordinary work...

My hat is off to you, i would love to have my table set up by someone with your skills, equipment and knowledge :rolleyes:
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If you think it is his work people are critical of, you have missed many points.

Dale
 
pdcue said:
Thank you

Dale(who would have cited a 70 Camaro, but who's counting)
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My '74 el camino SS gets 18mpg (combined city/highway) which is better than half of a civic...and I'm much faster than a civic (0-60, cornering might be closer).

My 1949 chev hot rod truck is even faster than the camino and corners at least as well.
 
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