centennial pool balls - yellowing?

Beware_of_Dawg said:
These Centenials I have a chance to buy are $30. Still on the fence because not only because of the yellowing but now u guys got me thinking they could be all different shapes and sizes and I wouldn't have a clue.

BTW, The balls I have are not Wal-Mart junk... that's laughable. They are WAAAAAAAY better. Got 'em at Sears. lol. Sportcraft FTW!
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I would not pass up a good ball set for 30 yellowed or not. Its easy to tell but you need a mic or dial calipers. Std is 2.250, just measure the balls. If there within .005 that's a pretty good set. Measure each ball both directions. Its very common for sets in pool rooms to be .025 - .030 worn & out of round. That's one reason why its a struggle to get a tight rack.

Rod
 
Beware_of_Dawg said:
These Centenials I have a chance to buy are $30. Still on the fence because not only because of the yellowing but now u guys got me thinking they could be all different shapes and sizes and I wouldn't have a clue.

BTW, The balls I have are not Wal-Mart junk... that's laughable. They are WAAAAAAAY better. Got 'em at Sears. lol. Sportcraft FTW!
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If you have junk balls now, and budget is tight, then spend the $30 for the yellow centennials. I'm the one who said I wouldn't buy a used set, but for $30 in your situation, you can't go wrong. My comment was more of a comparison between $100 for a used set, and $175 for a new one. In that case, I'd go with the new one every time.

One other thing... if the balls are all equally yellow, that could be a good indication that the set is all matched, and wasn't mixed up over the years. If that's the case, the size issue might not be an issue at all.

Finally, the centennial set always came with a blue circle (not dot) cue ball.

If you end up buying a new set in the future, I'd bet you $30 that you could sell the yellow set for $30 on here;)
 
Rod said:
I would not pass up a good ball set for 30 yellowed or not. Its easy to tell but you need a mic or dial calipers. Std is 2.250, just measure the balls. If there within .005 that's a pretty good set. Measure each ball both directions. Its very common for sets in pool rooms to be .025 - .030 worn & out of round. That's one reason why its a struggle to get a tight rack.

Rod
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Yellow Balls = $30
Mic Calipers = $60+
Attempts to whiten balls via
toothpaste, polish, bleach, etc.. etc.. = $30+
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Cost = $120+

discovering my oblong, multi sized, yellow patchy ball purchase = FAIL. lol.

iusedtoberich said:
One other thing... if the balls are all equally yellow, that could be a good indication that the set is all matched, and wasn't mixed up over the years. If that's the case, the size issue might not be an issue at all.
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Yeah, All the same shade of yellow. Like a mouth full of hillbilly teeth.
 
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Beware_of_Dawg said:
Yellow Balls = $30
Mic Calipers = $60+
Attempts to whiten balls via
toothpaste, polish, bleach, etc.. etc.. = $30+
_____________________
Cost = $120+

discovering my oblong, multi sized, yellow patchy ball purchase = FAIL. lol.



Yeah, All the same shade of yellow. Like a mouth full of hillbilly teeth.
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You borrow two NEW balls...put the old ball between them on the rail.....
use your cue lengthwise to try and roll the balls up to the top of the rail...
...if the ball in the middle is too small, it will stay on the table....cost=zilch

And the yellow balls play fine...and if you use them enough, they WILL
lighten up...in a busy room, it could still take months, so on a personal
table it may take a lot longer.

Here's another one of NewStroke's ball theories...:shocked:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=186152&highlight=what's+saluc?
 
OK, im gonna buy them and run some science experiments on them... I will post before and afters. Im gonna try soaking 'em in oxy clean, brushin 'em with whitening toothpaste then put the washing machine with bleach then dry them in the sunshine for a week.... Stay tuned.
 
Beware_of_Dawg said:
OK, im gonna buy them and run some science experiments on them... I will post before and afters. Im gonna try soaking 'em in oxy clean, brushin 'em with whitening toothpaste then put the washing machine with bleach then dry them in the sunshine for a week.... Stay tuned.
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Do not put them in bleach, they will end up with streaks. Oxy clean I haven't a clue. I'd stick with very light polishing compound.

Rod
 
DogsPlayingPool said:
I remember someone posting (think it was 3railkick) that balls that sit in the box will tend to yellow, especially new balls. Something about out gassing that occurs for a while after manufacture. After I read this I decided to take the cover off the box of new Tournaments I bought that I've not used yet, to let the balls breath and expel the gas.
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Wasn't me. (well maybe the gas)

But, I bot an old set of centennials, that were yellowed. Think I will set 1/2 of the stripes out in the sun and see if it helps.

btw-Newstroke-we need to hear from you more often. This place gets too serious.

take care...

and Tramp, if you're out there-I hope you are making somebody laugh
 
Anyway, I had emailed Aramith about this in the past and this was their response:

Dear Sir,

Please note that the color change over time is a normal ageing and an intrinsic behaviour of the phenolic resin, just like ivory for instance.

The phenolic resin is the key factor giving the outstanding and undisputed characteristics of the balls and the natural yellowing over time is its signature.

To minimize it, we recommend to keep the balls in a dark and dry place, when unused.

Please also note that beside the Aramith ball cleaner designed to maintain the balls in good condition, we have experienced that the Aramith restorer allows to recover partly the original ivory color.

Hoping this answers your query,

With best regards.

ARAMITH - BELGIUM
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So I'm keeping them stored in the box in a dark, dry place, probably with the cover off (see thread post below).

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3RAILKICK said:
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Wasn't me. (well maybe the gas)
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I found it, it was junkbond in this post:

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=2926439&postcount=67

There is some very good discussion on ball discoloration in that thread for anyone who's interested.
 
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Centennial pool balls - yellowing?

Thanks fellas (I'm assuming you're all fellas)...
I love it when I get entertained and learn something
at the same time!! :grin-square:
... oh yes... the 15yr old balls did brighten up (with daily
use over the past 15 months)

Lo
 
yellow is yellower

when this was going on last july I cut the red circle off my cue ball that was perhaps 15??ish years old...ball was very yellow and yet inside was quite white...wish I had taken a picture then.....now it is extremely yellow on the cut off portion and the outside is still the same yellow it has been for years...I can text a picture to someone if they want but at the current time cant put up a picture on here...if someone wants I will text you and you can post for everyone to see

pm me if interested
 
DogsPlayingPool said:
I remember someone posting (think it was 3railkick) that balls that sit in the box will tend to yellow, especially new balls. Something about out gassing that occurs for a while after manufacture. After I read this I decided to take the cover off the box of new Tournaments I bought that I've not used yet, to let the balls breath and expel the gas.
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Is this the post you're thinking of, Mitch?
 
Meguires D300 correction compound worked great on my Centennials, similar to Chucks before and after results with minimal effort. I bought the complete D/A correction system for detailing cars, but use it on anything that needs polishing. This stuff works great on guitars and cues too. D300 will polish out scuffs and minor scratches fast and not leave any swirls.
 
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