Center-to-Edge (CTE) Pivot Issue
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Joe T
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Ghost ball, fractional, point to point (cp to cp) and mentions a visual method of seeing a white track or tube the size of the cue ball all the way to the object ball.bluepepper said:
At the end of the chapter he has my method on his recommended readings but doesn't seem all that impressed with it as he says its basicly an intro to point to point aiming so while I'm happy for the reference I got a little disappointed as how he recommended it, can't win'em all I guess.
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simple questions don't necessarily have simple answers
Seems to me like there is no simple answer to where you place your bridge because that is determined by other things. The other things are I believe the heart of Pro One. Can't say that I blame Stan for not giving it away when he can sell it.
I typically use parallel english. If you ask me where I place my bridge hand all I could tell you is I place it where it needs to be for that shot or that it depends on the shot. That isn't what someone wanting an exact answer would find satisfactory but we all know it is true. I'm not tap dancing when I don't give a single firm answer, there simply is no single firm answer. I think the same is true for placing the bridge using CTE. The shot makes it obvious where to place the bridge but there is probably no hard and fast answer. Reading these endless threads I grasp a little more all the time but I haven't had a chance to see how it all works on a table.
Hu
Gerald said:
Seems to me like there is no simple answer to where you place your bridge because that is determined by other things. The other things are I believe the heart of Pro One. Can't say that I blame Stan for not giving it away when he can sell it.
I typically use parallel english. If you ask me where I place my bridge hand all I could tell you is I place it where it needs to be for that shot or that it depends on the shot. That isn't what someone wanting an exact answer would find satisfactory but we all know it is true. I'm not tap dancing when I don't give a single firm answer, there simply is no single firm answer. I think the same is true for placing the bridge using CTE. The shot makes it obvious where to place the bridge but there is probably no hard and fast answer. Reading these endless threads I grasp a little more all the time but I haven't had a chance to see how it all works on a table.
Hu
seeing the angle and adjusting the bridge
I think good shooters use all visual information available to them to help see the required angle of the shot and the necessary line of aim. They might use any or all of: ghost-ball visualization, ball-to-ball contact point visualization, impact line (or "target line" or "line of centers") visualization, center-to-edge (CTE) line visualization, etc. Regardless, a good shooter doesn't need a mechanical "system" to do this, IMO. For not-so-good shooters, there are drills and techniques they can use to help develop their visualization skills so they can improve their ability to "see" the shot. For example, see:
- ghost-ball aiming method and drill
- NV 3.1 - Practicing contact point and ghost ball visualization
- NV 3.2 - Using the cue to help visualize the impact and aiming lines
- NV B.3 - Mike Page's aiming video (part 1, part 2)
Regards,
Dave
Well stated. You also might need to adjust your bridge position a little as you get down into the shot and after you are down in the shot, because you are not likely to place your hand down perfectly every time. Good shooters can see the required angle of the shot and make the necessary fine adjustments to bring the cue (with the bridge) into alignment with that line. Good shooters can also make adjustments where necessary for squirt, swerve, and throw based on shot distance, shot speed, cue elevation, ball and cloth conditions, amount and type of spin, etc.ShootingArts said:
I think good shooters use all visual information available to them to help see the required angle of the shot and the necessary line of aim. They might use any or all of: ghost-ball visualization, ball-to-ball contact point visualization, impact line (or "target line" or "line of centers") visualization, center-to-edge (CTE) line visualization, etc. Regardless, a good shooter doesn't need a mechanical "system" to do this, IMO. For not-so-good shooters, there are drills and techniques they can use to help develop their visualization skills so they can improve their ability to "see" the shot. For example, see:
- ghost-ball aiming method and drill
- NV 3.1 - Practicing contact point and ghost ball visualization
- NV 3.2 - Using the cue to help visualize the impact and aiming lines
- NV B.3 - Mike Page's aiming video (part 1, part 2)
Regards,
Dave
In a previous post I indicated that I could not effectively write out aspects of PRO ONE. What I meant was: I would rather not teach thru written text.
I can write the details of the PRO ONE system. Also, I can explain the system as well as demonstrate the system.
I have taught pool for 25 years plus. I have never taught a pool lesson exclusively by written text. My preferred method of teaching is thru verbal explanation and physical demonstration.
I never intended to say that I could not write the details of the system.
I am sorry if I misled some of you.
Stan Shuffett
I can write the details of the PRO ONE system. Also, I can explain the system as well as demonstrate the system.
I have taught pool for 25 years plus. I have never taught a pool lesson exclusively by written text. My preferred method of teaching is thru verbal explanation and physical demonstration.
I never intended to say that I could not write the details of the system.
I am sorry if I misled some of you.
Stan Shuffett
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stan shuffett said:
I don't think you misled anyone. I don't think anyone assumed that it couldn't be described in written form. After all, if rocket science can be written about, what can't? Hal's system took about 4 sentences. Ghost ball would take about 2. There's certainly something to be said for getting one on one attention from a great instructor.