Changing the format just before the tournament

leto1776 said:
Could someone be kind enough to explain what a chip tournament is?
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Teams get a certain amount of chips before a tournament. If you lose a game, you lose a chip. Run out of chips and you’re done.

Typically for 25 teams (or players) table assignments are given to start, so 8 tables means 16 teams start and 9 are on the waiting list. If you win the game, you stay at the table and rack the balls for the next team on the waiting list. If you lose, you lose a chip and get on the waiting list. After 10 rounds or so teams start being eliminated until one team is left standing.
 
tomatoshooter said:
You get a certain number of chips, more if you are a less skilled player. When you lose, you lose a chip. When you run out of chips, you go home. It sounds like these guys were playing individual games instead of sets, but the principle is the same.
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You beat me to it. Correct. Our tournaments are single games.
 
Sounds like the tourney director didn't expect two semi-pro players (1467 team fargo) to team up in their tourney.
TD did (almost) the right thing.
I would've just banned you, personally-- go pick on the bigger kids lol.
I've been banned from many tourneys and it didn't insult me.
 
Woodshaft said:
Sounds like the tourney director didn't expect two semi-pro players (1467 team fargo) to team up in their tourney.
TD did (almost) the right thing.
I would've just banned you, personally-- go pick on the bigger kids lol.
I've been banned from many tourneys and it didn't insult me.
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We both know the TD and play in other tournaments in the area like this. He certainly expected us. I’d have been more understanding if he’d capped the tournament at 1400 than posting this and changing it to suit an anonymous complainer.
 
easy-e said:
We both know the TD and play in other tournaments in the area like this. He certainly expected us. I’d have been more understanding if he’d capped the tournament at 1400 than posting this and changing it to suit an anonymous complainer.
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Then why did you even make this thread lol?
Sounds like you need attention yet again....
"Me and my partner are 1467 blah blah blah..........."
 
Woodshaft said:
Sounds like the tourney director didn't expect two semi-pro players (1467 team fargo) to team up in their tourney.
TD did (almost) the right thing.
I would've just banned you, personally-- go pick on the bigger kids lol.
I've been banned from many tourneys and it didn't insult me.
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Yeah, when you have a decisive overmatch, you can accept an unforeseen turn of events. If I drove out to the tournament and they said, "We changed things up, instead of getting 9 chips, everybody gets 7." I'd be a bit more put out. I try to just focus on the game because I don't want to see something that I can't tolerate and can't change.
 
One thing that is inescapable in my opinion, when things are tough much better players always have more to dig into. I would say I am playing my best for twenty or fifty a game but that isn't the game that would come out for thousands a game!

This makes it extremely difficult to handicap for the theoretical perfect handicap, all players or teams winning an equal amount of the time. No matter how ridiculously you handicap an event, cream tends to rise to the top. Do you keep piling more and more weight on the winner or do you accept that they are winning with a fair handicap?

Easy-E and company will no doubt be faced with something to make it more difficult or impossible for them to win next time around. With loser breaks it seems unreasonable to give them less chips than they have now, each chip is now huge in the spot. It might be fairer to give all other divisions under 1300 another chip.

The issue here was the last minute unadvertised change and I do think that unfair.

Hu
 
Tin Man said:
If you make the decision to enter into a handicapped event you forfeit all right to complain about any turn of events, no matter how outrageous the thing is.

That is why I'll never, ever play a handicapped event.

Solved.
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Yeah, but you are at a much higher skill level then most of us. I wouldn't play handicap events either if I was at your level.
 
Woodshaft said:
Then why did you even make this thread lol?
Sounds like you need attention yet again....
"Me and my partner are 1467 blah blah blah..........."
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WTF are you talking about? I stated it pretty clearly, but I'll try again if you have reading comprehension problems. I'm hoping to see how other pool players would feel if they showed up for a tournament that advertised one format, but then selectively changed it immediately before the tournament to suit one complainer. Clearly I'm the one looking for attention in this exchange...
 
This is all something that most people learn in kindergarten. Everybody showed up to play under the same set of rules. Nobody gets to complain.

For everybody who says that the highly rated players should be banned, that is BS. Ban the complainers.

If the players want change, be adults and suggest it...for the next event.
 
DeeDeeCues said:
This is all something that most people learn in kindergarten. Everybody showed up to play under the same set of rules. Nobody gets to complain.

For everybody who says that the highly rated players should be banned, that is BS. Ban the complainers.

If the players want change, be adults and suggest it...for the next event.
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Tournament directors have a tough job. Often times they have to make a spur of the moment decision possibly changing the format of a tournament or handicapping of the players, which is not likely to be popular with everyone, but is done so for common sense reasons.

For instance, with our 8 tournament tables, we get 20–30 players for our weekly 9-ball handicapped tournament which starts at 7pm on Monday nights, and most of our players have to get up at work the next day. One night, 40 players showed up. I made a decision to make it a single elimination tournament and not change the length of the races, which is hard to do when you handicap players by games on the wire as we do.

If I hadn’t made that change, we’d of been playing until daylight.
 
tomatoshooter said:
You get a certain number of chips, more if you are a less skilled player. When you lose, you lose a chip. When you run out of chips, you go home. It sounds like these guys were playing individual games instead of sets, but the principle is the same.
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You don't have to go home but you can't play here.

I been holding that one in for over a decade.
 
ChrisinNC said:
Tournament directors have a tough job. Often times they have to make a spur of the moment decision possibly changing the format of a tournament or handicapping of the players, which is not likely to be popular with everyone, but is done so for common sense reasons.

For instance, with our 8 tournament tables, we get 20–30 players for our weekly 9-ball handicapped tournament which starts at 7pm on Monday nights, and most of our players have to get up at work the next day. One night, 40 players showed up. I made a decision to make it a single elimination tournament and not change the length of the races, which is hard to do when you handicap players by games on the wire as we do.

If I hadn’t made that change, we’d of been playing until daylight.
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Honestly, that was your shortcoming as an event planner. You should have stated that more people would result in shorter races, or capped the entries.
 
easy-e said:
Interested in your thoughts. Chip tournaments are pretty popular in my area. They also love scotch doubles here. A tournament was advertised for a scotch doubles chip tournament where the lower rated teams get more chips (based on your combined fargos). The higher tier was listed as “1200 and above get 5 chips”.

My partner and I get there and the TD tells us that someone already complained about us and he only allowed us to start with 4 chips. We are 1467 combined (mainly because of my partner 😬).

I drove 45 minutes to this place to find the rules changed to suit a complainer. I don’t mind starting with 4, unless I’m expecting 5. Am I just nitpicking here?
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Where is this , I’ll come bust the tournament , an eye for an eye lol ,,,,, joking
 
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