Chohan-Bergman Match
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I read Tony absolutely wants to setup a rematch. Justin didn't seem as keen to another race to 24 in the post game interview. "Took a year off my life" 
Especially when he scratched on his first shot hill hill lolI read Tony absolutely wants to setup a rematch. Justin didn't seem as keen to another race to 24 in the post game interview. "Took a year off my life"
Tony said the same thing when he lost to Billy Thorpe
Just watched that final game and will share my opinion. First of all Justin tried to give the game to Tony, shooting that wild (and poor) cut shot on the thirteen and scratching two rails in the corner. I thought Tony would grab the cue ball and run out. But no, he stood there looking at the nine ball for a very long time. That's just not like him. He actually looked unsure about it. We (and he) knew he was going to shoot that ball first, cut the ten and get behind the pack. Finally he makes the correct shot and falls perfect for the ten. He doesn't take long to make the ten and go behind the pack, except he hit it too hard and he sends the cue ball past the pack. Surprise, surprise!
Now he has to play off the thirteen ball. He can bank it toward the four on the end rail and stick the cue ball. Only good things can happen that way. He is moving two balls close to his pocket and hiding the cue ball, and he might make the four and continue shooting. Or he could cross bank the thirteen ball toward his hole and once again hide the cue ball behind the pack. But no, after a long, long time walking around and thinking, he shoots a very amateurish two rail bank on the thirteen into the pack and leaves the cue ball on the end rail. That shot accomplished nothing!
At that moment I felt like he forgot how to play T-Rex pool! Maybe the long match had left him a little brain weary. I don't know. I just know I've never seen Tony play so slow and totally non aggressive. That last shot gave JB the upper hand. I think he saw how weak Tony looked and took advantage of it. JB shot a very standard safety and now Tony opted to kick at the thirteen??? Another wasted shot. From there JB was in control and it only took him an inning or two to get his run started with a gutsy bank on the seven ball. After that the run out was pretty standard with only one more bank to close it out.
Just a weird looking final game by Tony. That's all I'm saying.
Now he has to play off the thirteen ball. He can bank it toward the four on the end rail and stick the cue ball. Only good things can happen that way. He is moving two balls close to his pocket and hiding the cue ball, and he might make the four and continue shooting. Or he could cross bank the thirteen ball toward his hole and once again hide the cue ball behind the pack. But no, after a long, long time walking around and thinking, he shoots a very amateurish two rail bank on the thirteen into the pack and leaves the cue ball on the end rail. That shot accomplished nothing!
At that moment I felt like he forgot how to play T-Rex pool! Maybe the long match had left him a little brain weary. I don't know. I just know I've never seen Tony play so slow and totally non aggressive. That last shot gave JB the upper hand. I think he saw how weak Tony looked and took advantage of it. JB shot a very standard safety and now Tony opted to kick at the thirteen??? Another wasted shot. From there JB was in control and it only took him an inning or two to get his run started with a gutsy bank on the seven ball. After that the run out was pretty standard with only one more bank to close it out.
Just a weird looking final game by Tony. That's all I'm saying.
Easy to show a lot of heart when it’s not your own money.
just part of being a human
as justin showed his human side with his first shot that scratched in the corner
i didn't see much of the match but it looks like the same story as many tony matches lately
I cannot agree with your take on this at all.
First off, Justin did not try and give Tony the match. He missed a thin cut BUT it was not "wild." If you had watched most of the match you would have seen that Justin cut a number of balls in that were super thin. I mean like *crazy* thin. So on that particular shot, he was a favorite, nothing wild abut it. As to Tony staring at the balls, that started much earlier in the match when Justin, sensing that Tony was getting a little weak on those, purposely left him long several times and, in fact, Tony did miss several of them. That's why Tony approached that first shot with trepidation.
Personally, I think the angle was too steep to shoot the 13 into the 14 and if he tried to draw the ball behind the stack he risks the 14 coming back across to Justin's side. So given how he's clawed his way back, he elects to play a safe shot he knows will leave nothing. That's accomplishing something, especially hill-hill.
I do agree that kicking at the 13 might not have been the best shot, perhaps he should have gone off the one. And finally, for you to call Justin's match winning out "standard" is absurd. That was a tremendous out, all the more amazing given the lay of the balls and it being the case game.
Yes, Tony looked weak, but that wasn't just during that final game. In fact, just a few games earlier with the score 7- -1 Tony passed on a couple of shots for his game ball that are normally hangers for him. The commentators said Tony needed to go check his driver's license and see he was still Tony Chohan.
Lou Figueroa
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I support Justin Bergman in any decision he makes regarding participation in pro pool, but can't help wondering ,,,
... from 2014-19, we all knew Bergman as a guy who could go very deep in the toughest events but whose weak break tended to leave the major nine-ball titles outside his grasp. I, for one, felt he had the best after the break skills of any American player, SVB included. Justin was, clearly, America's best defensive player, above even Woodward.
The changes Matchroom made in August 2022, with nine on the spot, a break box and 4" pockets have changed the game demonstrably. Winning the majors is no longer about stringing packages and is more about excellence in winning the race to the first good shot than ever before. In my view, this kind of 9ball would have been right up Justin Bergman's alley, playing to his strengths in the moves game. I'll always feel he'd have been at great ease with the current version of pool played in the WNT.
... from 2014-19, we all knew Bergman as a guy who could go very deep in the toughest events but whose weak break tended to leave the major nine-ball titles outside his grasp. I, for one, felt he had the best after the break skills of any American player, SVB included. Justin was, clearly, America's best defensive player, above even Woodward.
The changes Matchroom made in August 2022, with nine on the spot, a break box and 4" pockets have changed the game demonstrably. Winning the majors is no longer about stringing packages and is more about excellence in winning the race to the first good shot than ever before. In my view, this kind of 9ball would have been right up Justin Bergman's alley, playing to his strengths in the moves game. I'll always feel he'd have been at great ease with the current version of pool played in the WNT.
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I also thought the final out made by Justin was pretty strong.
I didn't see it, but any 9 and out is pretty strong. Also, most of us would be pretty tight playing one rack for 40k.
I agree with Lou 100%.
I was wrong as I expected Tony to win handly and didnt expect JB to be even close. Everyone is an expert AFTER, but I can admit I missed this one by a mile.
Ken
Given the situation, that was one hell of a 9 and out for the win.
