Chohan V Orcollo October 5 –8

You obviously don’t recall Minnesota Fats and William Mosconi with Howard Cossell commentating and even running interference between players. That had a huge audience. That’s fact not fantasy. It certainly won’t get there with your negative attitude.


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There was nothing else to watch at that time. How many channels/video games/other things to do are there now compared to then??? It's endless.
You can make pool popular again.....if you buy all the other channels and youtube etc, what would that take? Hundreds of billions? But yeah, you've got a good plan:rolleyes:
Jason

Edit: One beat me to it, but I'll just leave it here anyway
 
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Finally someone that understands. I love my AZ community. Good bad and blue-balls. Wouldn’t give it up for anything. I love the sport. Nobody to blame but yourself when you lose. Been there. Done that more than I will ever want to admit. Or did I just do that? Never the less I love it. I only want to watch it progress. I want players to get paid what they should. Like any other sport. In my opinion it takes intelligence and physical discipline. I don’t know too many games like that. I don’t know too many individual sports that encompass these attributes. One pocket is the pinnacle of these disciplines. We as a community need to help is rise. Bring it from the dirty grimy gambling game it is known for to a true respectable sport. I have seen and also been on the side of physical fights arguments and excuses. I’ve done it. I have had it done to me. Even in recent.

I only want to make it better not worse.


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You and ram shot riddick sing the same song.

He was unable to grasp one pocket as well...though his blog does recount the time when he ran 3 balls in the same pocked and caused fear in the heart of orcullo:rolleyes::rotflmao1::lol::lmao:
 
Finally someone that understands. I love my AZ community. Good bad and blue-balls. Wouldn’t give it up for anything. I love the sport. Nobody to blame but yourself when you lose. Been there. Done that more than I will ever want to admit. Or did I just do that? Never the less I love it. I only want to watch it progress. I want players to get paid what they should. Like any other sport. In my opinion it takes intelligence and physical discipline. I don’t know too many games like that. I don’t know too many individual sports that encompass these attributes. One pocket is the pinnacle of these disciplines. We as a community need to help is rise. Bring it from the dirty grimy gambling game it is known for to a true respectable sport. I have seen and also been on the side of physical fights arguments and excuses. I’ve done it. I have had it done to me. Even in recent.

I only want to make it better not worse.


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Johnny one other thing that creates interest from the public is big prize money. That's what lit up the World Series of Poker, when someone started winning millions in the main event. It's no different in pool. Two great players can be gambling for $500 but if two shortstops are playing for five grand in the same room, everyone will be watching them. And I know you know that! If somehow, some way, somebody found a way to pump some real money into pool, there would be an audience who was interested in watching who can play under pressure and who chokes. Everyone loves to see one guy rise to the occasion and another guy sh!t all over himself. I guess that's human nature. :wink:
 
Johnny one other thing that creates interest from the public is big prize money. That's what lit up the World Series of Poker, when someone started winning millions in the main event. It's no different in pool. Two great players can be gambling for $500 but if two shortstops are playing for five grand in the same room, everyone will be watching them. And I know you know that!

If somehow, some way, somebody found a way to pump some real money into pool, there would be an audience who was interested in watching who could play under pressure and who chokes. Everyone loves to see one guy rise to the occasion and another guy sh!t all over himself. I guess that's human nature. :wink:

It is breast to not engage the boob. Keep that mammary.
 
Johnny one other thing that creates interest from the public is big prize money. That's what lit up the World Series of Poker, when someone started winning millions in the main event. It's no different in pool. Two great players can be gambling for $500 but if two shortstops are playing for five grand in the same room, everyone will be watching them. And I know you know that! If somehow, some way, somebody found a way to pump some real money into pool, there would be an audience who was interested in watching who can play under pressure and who chokes. Everyone loves to see one guy rise to the occasion and another guy sh!t all over himself. I guess that's human nature. :wink:

I think the poker boom was more due to an amateur winning millions. The prize money is big in poker because of large fields and high buy-ins. Not because someone pumped money into the game.

A vast majority of those large fields are dead money. The difference between pool and poker is that in poker, the dead money actually has a chance to win. I'll never win the US Open, but I could possibly win the WSOP Main Event.
 
Johnny one other thing that creates interest from the public is big prize money. That's what lit up the World Series of Poker, when someone started winning millions in the main event. It's no different in pool. Two great players can be gambling for $500 but if two shortstops are playing for five grand in the same room, everyone will be watching them. And I know you know that! If somehow, some way, somebody found a way to pump some real money into pool, there would be an audience who was interested in watching who can play under pressure and who chokes. Everyone loves to see one guy rise to the occasion and another guy sh!t all over himself. I guess that's human nature. :wink:



This is exactly my point! That is the ultimate goal. These types of matches help in that very thing. It doesn’t matter if it’s one pocket or bumper pool. It raises the sport as a whole. It’s unfortunate that Blue-ballz can’t see past his own ego to understand that simple fact. He seems to keep reverting back to knowledge of one pocket. Which is completely irrelevant to the conversation. I can guarantee that a vast majority of television viewers have no idea what the actual playing rules are of major sporting events. So should they not watch because they don’t have in depth knowledge? Sounds to me like there are only half a dozen people in the world that seem to understand this game enough to even comment on it. No way in hell viewers understand the winning percentage of any given poker hand. That’s why they have commentators and post those percentages on the screen.

Bottom line...characters and money (not necessarily in that order) bring professionals and amateurs and when you get that combination you drive interest from sponsors.

In regards to “there was nothing else to watch back then”, this is a true statement. However more channels and a much larger population base along with the ability to broadcast globally also provides opportunities. You have access to a much larger broadcast audience than ever before. This sport is older than any of the large spectator sports and without doubt has more amateurs and ball bangers. Almost everyone has picked up a pool cue at one point in there life. Can’t say the same for other sports. The audience is out there. If you reach them then all the things I speak of are possible. Just don’t think that everyone is going to grasp why players push up table and start a wedge. You can explain that to your spouse or playing buddy if you like.


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This is exactly my point! That is the ultimate goal. These types of matches help in that very thing. It doesn’t matter if it’s one pocket or bumper pool. It raises the sport as a whole. It’s unfortunate that Blue-ballz can’t see past his own ego to understand that simple fact. He seems to keep reverting back to knowledge of one pocket. Which is completely irrelevant to the conversation. I can guarantee that a vast majority of television viewers have no idea what the actual playing rules are of major sporting events. So should they not watch because they don’t have in depth knowledge? Sounds to me like there are only half a dozen people in the world that seem to understand this game enough to even comment on it. No way in hell viewers understand the winning percentage of any given poker hand. That’s why they have commentators and post those percentages on the screen.

Bottom line...characters and money (not necessarily in that order) bring professionals and amateurs and when you get that combination you drive interest from sponsors.

In regards to “there was nothing else to watch back then”, this is a true statement. However more channels and a much larger population base along with the ability to broadcast globally also provides opportunities. You have access to a much larger broadcast audience than ever before. This sport is older than any of the large spectator sports and without doubt has more amateurs and ball bangers. Almost everyone has picked up a pool cue at one point in there life. Can’t say the same for other sports. The audience is out there. If you reach them then all the things I speak of are possible. Just don’t think that everyone is going to grasp why players push up table and start a wedge. You can explain that to your spouse or playing buddy if you like.


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It's still the connection of the amature haveing a chance to win not only millions but fame also that's what Chris Moneymaker did , really the two aren't even comparable in popularity there's billions and billions of dollars that passes hands on a card table , that's why you see it on TV all the time,,
The better comparison and a possible achieveable level for pool would be pro bowling that gets limited TV and sponsorship but it gets it , but until you get a pro tour to begin with that is Pluto at this point

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It's still the connection of the amature haveing a chance to win not only millions but fame also that's what Chris Moneymaker did , really the two aren't even comparable in popularity there's billions and billions of dollars that passes hands on a card table , that's why you see it on TV all the time,,

The better comparison and a possible achieveable level for pool would be pro bowling that gets limited TV and sponsorship but it gets it , but until you get a pro tour to begin with that is Pluto at this point



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All pros were amateurs at one point.


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