Chris Mellings thoughts on SVB

"When we've actually had a referee racking the balls I've beaten him every time."

What were those occasions?

Here's one (or two) -- 2011 Mosconi Cup. Melling won 6-5 in singles and 6-2 in doubles (Melling and Souquet vs. SVB and Morris)
 
Ron Swanson said:
Good idea. Now, to make it fair and not just a xenophobic myopic soggy biscuit circle jerk, they could play english 8 ball. Then, to really prove the best pool player, the decider could be chinese 8 ball.



$50 large? Your boy will not put a single dime on that.
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This was never about English 8 ball.. It's American 9 ball at the worlds. Join a English 8 ball forum or a snooker forum and I doubt anyone would miss the rubbish that cums off your trolling tongue
 
Melling is a very interesting player.

On the one hand, I wonder how good he could really be if he focused on a single discipline. Could it be that he's a bit lazy?

Then on the other hand, I wonder if maybe he's one of the few pool players that really gets it. Maybe he looks around and understands that there's really not much to be gained from focusing on a single discipline so he spreads himself around and plays all the games.

He probably has about as much fun as possible in the the cue sports world. I can't help but admire that a bit.
 
Everybody seems to feel that Shane has some "TRULY MAGIC RACK" not just the one that CSI has. How can that be? His opponents have the right to inspect the rack and they do. Their problem is that they can't break like Shane breaks.

It's human nature to look for some excuse (Earl has a dictionary full of them). We just can't admit. He's better than I am. There has to be some reason he keeps killing me ergo: It must be that he's a rack mechanic.

I don't even like Shane but to suggest he has developed some magic racking formula is pure nonsense. The dude just has the best break in the world period.
 
Double-Dave said:
Everyone who follows or plays pro pool knows Shane plays world class pool after the break.
Regardless of 8, 9 or 10-ball (his 1-pocket isn't too shabby either).

But, there have been quite a few instances where top pro's have spoken out about Shane's racking.
Alex has, Earl has, Niels has, Dennis has and Chris does it here to. So quite a few people I imagine,
myself included, think there is probably something to it.

Chris' win-loss record against Shane when a ref is racking seem to point to it aswell.
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if you think shanes racking isnt an issue then you havve not been around the pro circuit
the players you mentioned have been vocal about it at the mezz tour recently oscar and rodney were also talkign about how shane would not be near as dominant if all tables were ref racker

again svb can play no doubt he is phenomenal but there is definitely a rig to his racking

oscar said it was the 2 ball (back ball) when he rolls his fingers up them he splits the back ball therefore they spread better
 
actionplayer said:
if you think shanes racking isnt an issue then you havve not been around the pro circuit
the players you mentioned have been vocal about it at the mezz tour recently oscar and rodney were also talkign about how shane would not be near as dominant if all tables were ref racker

again svb can play no doubt he is phenomenal but there is definitely a rig to his racking

oscar said it was the 2 ball (back ball) when he rolls his fingers up them he splits the back ball therefore they spread better
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So why can't these twats rack like him?
 
Joe_Jaguar said:
So why can't these twats rack like him?
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So few players are willing to spend the hours necessary to perfect a break equal to Shane's. Watched him at Turning Stone few years ago. Every time he finished a match he would jump on a free table and practice, practice, practice. Which other American is doing that? Perhaps his American competitors are too busy trying to make enough money to live on to practice the necessary hours. Just a guess.

Lyn
 
Nobody is a bigger Chris Mellon fan than me....he needs to not bark up that tree though....that tree will fall on you. He should go back to barking at Dechaine...I'm not even sure he can run that race yet. He gotta graduate to get to SVB. Only way to describe how good SVB is....he's Asian Good...that's real good.
 
BasementDweller said:
Melling is a very interesting player.

On the one hand, I wonder how good he could really be if he focused on a single discipline. Could it be that he's a bit lazy?

Then on the other hand, I wonder if maybe he's one of the few pool players that really gets it. Maybe he looks around and understands that there's really not much to be gained from focusing on a single discipline so he spreads himself around and plays all the games.

He probably has about as much fun as possible in the the cue sports world. I can't help but admire that a bit.
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That reminds me of a FB conversation between Darren Appleton and Chris Melling I read a few months ago.

Paraphrasing... Chris: If I had your mind, I'd have won 10 world championships.
Darren: If I could shoot like you, I'd have 10 too.

It went something along those line, not sure about the number.

So it seems they are quite aware of their strengths and weaknesses. I suspect Chris has not fully applied himself to US pool for any extended period of time.

I'm pretty sure he smashes the ghost as well as anyone and suspect he doesn't get too excited about the prospect of practicing his break and safety play for hours on end, which is what it would take for him to win more titles in the game.
 
punter said:
I think what Chris needs to do is tell Shane, let's play some 10 ball, neutral racker and we will both put up our own $50,000, race to 50, or 20 ahead.

Now that's what he needs to do if he really thinks he is the better player. And if he has some supporters, he can probably get another $100,000 on the rail.

Now , then you could say he wasn't taking out of his ass.
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No, to find out who the better pool player is they should play for no money.
 
Ron Swanson said:
Your parochial attitudes always make me laugh.

Who is the best pool player? (Not english pool. Not chinese pool. Not that other game. Not the one shane can't play. Nor that one. Or that one).

That one! That's the one he's best at!
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I know you're too blind to realize it, but even the Euro posters are laughing at you.

You're like a wannabe nerd. You don't even qualify for the low rung! I'm sorry your life has been so bad. That's not American pool's fault. That's all on you. I wish you luck.

Freddie <~~~ you don't qualify
 
cardiac kid said:
So few players are willing to spend the hours necessary to perfect a break equal to Shane's. Watched him at Turning Stone few years ago. Every time he finished a match he would jump on a free table and practice, practice, practice. Which other American is doing that? Perhaps his American competitors are too busy trying to make enough money to live on to practice the necessary hours. Just a guess.

Lyn
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I spent an extra 3 hours at Derby this year one night to let Shane do nothing but break 10ball on the 10ft table before I shut the Arena down....

I guess he must have a trick for the 10ball rack as well because he totally dismantled Alex and Corteza both 11-2 the next day to win the Big Foot.. He actually shot a .957 against Alex which is the highest TPA I think we have had on the 10ft.......

On average Shane, Orcullo and Corteza have the highest TPAs of the pro players... Occasionally these guys will come in at mortal numbers but all 3 average over .900 for the events I have been involved in with Accu-Stats...

Darren is right behind them and Shaw is coming up so fast it's not funny.... The rest ot the guys that are running close and can win the big events here in the US are Mika, Niels, Thorsten, Bustamante, Earl, Morra and Dechaine....

Pool is always changing and Stars rise and fall... Skyler, and the Justins are rising now so there will some shake ups.....

Yeah I know I didn't mention any of the Chinese or Taiwan players... But I don't expect one of them to win the US Open yet again this year... I also know some won't agree with my opinions and that's cool too... This listing was merely how I see things.....
 
punter said:
I think what Chris needs to do is tell Shane, let's play some 10 ball, neutral racker and we will both put up our own $50,000, race to 50, or 20 ahead.

Now that's what he needs to do if he really thinks he is the better player. And if he has some supporters, he can probably get another $100,000 on the rail.

Now , then you could say he wasn't taking out of his ass.
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Calm down and do us favor and cut all your tough guy talk. Not everything need to be settled by bets .
Want to really settle it - go Russian roulette. Loser of match gets Russian roulette 5 bullets in barrel. Heck just 1 bullet in barrel is enough to make you spend a lifetime collecting your horse's crap


actionplayer said:
if you think shanes racking isnt an issue then you havve not been around the pro circuit
the players you mentioned have been vocal about it at the mezz tour recently oscar and rodney were also talkign about how shane would not be near as dominant if all tables were ref racker

again svb can play no doubt he is phenomenal but there is definitely a rig to his racking

oscar said it was the 2 ball (back ball) when he rolls his fingers up them he splits the back ball therefore they spread better
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Melling is one of my faves but he is bit out of line here. There may be some truth to SVB being pattern racker but jury is still out there :)
As you and Meiling point out , SVB does not seem to be as dominant on ref rack events
Maybe Atlarge can run some stats comparing SVB performance on Ref rack v own rack
I am quite sure his win loss % on ref rack will be lower than own rack.
Which reinforces what me and others here have said - that own racking is nonsense and should be eliminated and be replaced by ref rack
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Colin Colenso said:
That reminds me of a FB conversation between Darren Appleton and Chris Melling I read a few months ago.

Paraphrasing... Chris: If I had your mind, I'd have won 10 world championships.
Darren: If I could shoot like you, I'd have 10 too.

It went something along those line, not sure about the number.

So it seems they are quite aware of their strengths and weaknesses. I suspect Chris has not fully applied himself to US pool for any extended period of time.

I'm pretty sure he smashes the ghost as well as anyone and suspect he doesn't get too excited about the prospect of practicing his break and safety play for hours on end, which is what it would take for him to win more titles in the game.
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All of that is absolutely bang on. Ironically, the game being discussed here was settled through SVBs better safety & breaking IIRC.

Whilst british players are infinitely superior cueists to their american rivals, they do not have 20 years of breaking experience behind them. The safety element of american pool is such a joke to be an irrelevance when it comes to discussing who the best players are.
 
Cornerman said:
I know you're too blind to realize it, but even the Euro posters are laughing at you.

You're like a wannabe nerd. You don't even qualify for the low rung! I'm sorry your life has been so bad. That's not American pool's fault. That's all on you. I wish you luck.

Freddie <~~~ you don't qualify
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What's a wannabe nerd? :confused:

Anyway, as for euro posters laughing at me, why dont you post what you did on a european cue sport site and see what they think.

Off you go.
 
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