CJ or The Scorpion?
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CJ was only dominant in his own mind.
That's two very different levels of play. Archer is one of the best of all time and his list of major titles is endless. CJ was a very fine player and a strong action player whose "A" game was crazy strong, but let's not put him in a discussion with the game's legends. He is far from that.
In the 1990s, when both Archer and CJ were both in their prime, Archer (along with Jon Kucharo and Wade Crane) was considered to have the best break in the game, and I'm not sure that there was anything CJ did better than Archer.
In the 1990s, when both Archer and CJ were both in their prime, Archer (along with Jon Kucharo and Wade Crane) was considered to have the best break in the game, and I'm not sure that there was anything CJ did better than Archer.
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No time to belittle a champion. CJ gained the #1 ranking on the PBT, the primary pro tour of his day, in what I believe was 1996. Among those playing on that tour at the time were future BCA Hall of Famers Archer, Hall, Davenport, Strickland, Souquet, Bustamante, Reyes, Parica, Varner and Rempe as well as several other worldbeaters. He was quite a player but comparing him to an Archer is just a bit over the top.
Stand By Me is a classic movie and posits the question, "who wins in a fight, Superman or Mighty Mouse?"
I'm sure CJ beat him many more times than that. The difference is that Archer was probably a Top 5 player in the world for fifteen consecutive years. You can't say that about more than a few that ever played the game (Mosconi, Greenleaf, Strickland, Sigel, Varner, SVB, and Mizerak come to mind).
That was 1995. Wiley had the #1 ranking through the first part of the year thanks to a couple of second-place finishes and a 3rd. He didn't win any of the tournaments. At the end of the year he was 4th in points and 5th in money (with $25,675, according to Pool & Billiard Magazine).
1996 was the year that Wiley and some others split from the PBT and formed the Professional CueSports Association. So Wiley didn't play many PBT events in 1996.
Thanks for that. I was going on memory. I did remember that he was ranked #1 at one point.
In the mid-90s, I think CJ would win a long money match if they were playing for high stakes and were betting their own money.
Yep.I'd have taken either one of them on my league team.
It is always good to have a couple APA 5 players as a backup.
Back when I cared, all I knew was more/less heart. What's your take?
Maybe.
1996, the year the players cut their throat. So sad what happened to pro pool.