CJ's Road Adventures - Hustling the KingPin of Miami

CJ Wiley

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When I was on the road back in the 80s there was a tremendous amount of money that could be won in Florida gambling with underworld characters.

It was 1986 after the movie ScarFace was released, I was in Miami gambling in the pool rooms..... teaming up with the Cubans against the Columbians.

Looking back this was a dangerous scenario, both sides had automatic weapons, however to me they were professional and all shared a mutual respect.....anyone that's been in similar situations will agree, often there's honor in the underworld of gambling.

Here's the story - a turning point in my life --- .https://youtu.be/zz-EIRujRRc
 
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cool story!

That is an interesting story. The major danger of course is how cheaply they all hold life. The same guy might stand by you to the death and then cut your throat for laughing at the wrong time. A Sicilian necktie I can do without!

I spent a lot of time in some places owned by the good hands people. I made a point of paying my respects every evening. If the poop hit the fan I wanted them to know I was a good boy. Being half Italian and looking Italian didn't hurt me any either. There was an illegal poker game played out in the open that went on for years. Little danger of it being busted since the sheriff was a regular player. That game cost a friend's brother his life and my friend spent six months in the hospital with a nicked up spleen and liver and a few other parts that you don't really need customized reworked.

One of the road players told a story about that poker game. He asked the guy running the place it was in if he could get out with his money if he won. The guy told him it was probably best he didn't play! Interesting strip, just a memory now.

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they all had submachine guns readily available, but I never had any concern

That is an interesting story. The major danger of course is how cheaply they all hold life. The same guy might stand by you to the death and then cut your throat for laughing at the wrong time. A Sicilian necktie I can do without!

I spent a lot of time in some places owned by the good hands people. I made a point of paying my respects every evening. If the poop hit the fan I wanted them to know I was a good boy. Being half Italian and looking Italian didn't hurt me any either. There was an illegal poker game played out in the open that went on for years. Little danger of it being busted since the sheriff was a regular player. That game cost a friend's brother his life and my friend spent six months in the hospital with a nicked up spleen and liver and a few other parts that you don't really need customized reworked.

One of the road players told a story about that poker game. He asked the guy running the place it was in if he could get out with his money if he won. The guy told him it was probably best he didn't play! Interesting strip, just a memory now.

Hu


Yeah, the key is to have no fear, after that match they all had submachine guns readily available, but I never had any concern......I'd already had several attempts on my life.
 
CJ was the real deal! He always looked for the biggest games and was not afraid to play the best players. I remember a period of a year or so where CJ followed/chased Efren all around the country to get him to play some 9-Ball, and they did several times. I'll let CJ tell you the rest of the story. :wink:

CJ also made by far the biggest tournament score in Pool before the IPT came along, back in 1996 in Santa Rosa, CA. ESPN put on a special tournament which featured the best men and the best women players. CJ won the men's division for something like 40 or 50K and then played Vivian for the overall title. That match was a joke, but CJ pocketed another 25 or 30K for winning it as well. I did some of the commentary for ESPN and worked with Lon McEachern, the announcer more well known for doing the World Series of Poker. CJ will probably remember better than me how much he won in that event, but it was a big number!
 
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.like a Chef that knows just the right amount of spice and seasoning to make the dish

CJ was the real deal! He always looked for the biggest games and was not afraid to play the best players. I remember a period of a year or so where CJ followed/chased Efren all around the country to get him to play some 9-Ball, and they did several times. I'll let CJ tell you the rest of the story. :wink:

CJ also made by far the biggest tournament score in Pool before the IPT came along, back in 1996 in Santa Rosa, CA. ESPN put on a special tournament which featured the best men and the best women players. CJ won the men's division for something like 40 or 50K and then played Vivian for the overall title. That match was a joke, but CJ pocketed another 25 or 30K for winning it as well. I did some of the commentary for ESPN and worked with Lon McEachern, the announcer more well known for doing the World Series of Poker. CJ will probably remember better than me how much he won in that event, but it was a big number!

We had some great times at all the tournaments in the 90s didn't we?

The ones you put on were amazing, the one at The Burbank Hilton was especially memorable, it was my first time on ESPN against Earl Strickland and I had to beat Francisco Bustemante for that opportunity.

You must have, Jay, had 700+ people that night they were hanging off the rafters {it seemed like anyway}, the match between Fransisco and I went down to 12/12 with me receiving the winning opportunity.

One thing about your tournaments they were promoted, marketed and advertised well, the results were impressive! We also had great tournaments at the Bicycle Club that attracted Hollywood celebrities and professional athletes for our Charity Events (that's another thing that Jay organized is charity events that were great public relation vehicles and beneficial for everyone involved).

One of the reasons I don't enjoy tournaments these days is there is a lack of electricity in the air, suspense, anticipation.....the game has lost the extra something promoters like Jay Helfert put into the tournaments.....like a Chef that knows just the right amount of spice and seasoning to make the dish special....something that leaves the impression "that was delicious, I want more the first chance I get!" The Pool fans in LA were in a great spot!

That ESPN World Open tournament Jay mentioned was incredible for me as well, not only was the money lucrative, ESPN filmed ALL matches like they were the finals. .

The grand finale was the winner of the women's played the winner of the men's world title for $60,000 first and $40,000 runner up - they reported an audience of 2,800,000+ which is probably more people seeing us play than our entire career combined. ....ESPN played those matches over and over, Gary Morganstein, the producer for ESPN told me I had over 600 International Hours of exposure internationally.

I literally couldn't walk though an airport without 20-30 people saying hi and making remarks about pool and the tournaments. We were averaging 1,000,000 viewers per show, it was unprecedented exposure for pocket billiards on TV....the Women and Men were Teamed Together, which made the events synergistic with standing room only crowds.

I appreciate all you've done, Jay, we shared a lot of memories. another historic event we shared, when you were our Tournament Director - Earl ran 11 racks in a row for the $1,000,000 - if anyone didn't know, Jay racked the last racks of that historic run of 9-Ball at CJ's Billiard Palace in Dallas. Talk about ELECTRICITY in the air, Max Eberle was there, in an interview {from our documentary} he said there was more excitement during those last racks than he'd seen in any one tournament combined {up to that day in his life}. *Yes, Earl did get paid, we had a 2 year lawsuit and won- it's all in the documentary on my web site MPB.

Great memories, my friend, hopefully there will be many more, hope you are always well!

The Game is Our Teacher
 
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When you broke out your cue did you say "Say hello to my little friend"?? ;) Saw CJ play a couple times in Tulsa before we knew who he was. Well, we found out believe me.
 
I used to get a kick out of Fat Randy, he was a character!

When you broke out your cue did you say "Say hello to my little friend"?? ;) Saw CJ play a couple times in Tulsa before we knew who he was. Well, we found out believe me.

At the Tulsa Billiard Palace?

I used to get a kick out of Fat Randy, he was a character!

The first time we went there I was with Strong Arm John and Doug Smith, there was a to of action around the area, we stayed in Ponca City where Matlock and Ron Feebis was and played Bartlesville Bob in, of course Bartlesville.
 
CJ was the real deal! He always looked for the biggest games and was not afraid to play the best players. I remember a period of a year or so where CJ followed/chased Efren all around the country to get him to play some 9-Ball, and they did several times. I'll let CJ tell you the rest of the story. :wink:

CJ also made by far the biggest tournament score in Pool before the IPT came along, back in 1996 in Santa Rosa, CA. ESPN put on a special tournament which featured the best men and the best women players. CJ won the men's division for something like 40 or 50K and then played Vivian for the overall title. That match was a joke, but CJ pocketed another 25 or 30K for winning it as well. I did some of the commentary for ESPN and worked with Lon McEachern, the announcer more well known for doing the World Series of Poker. CJ will probably remember better than me how much he won in that event, but it was a big number!

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At the Tulsa Billiard Palace?

I used to get a kick out of Fat Randy, he was a character!

The first time we went there I was with Strong Arm John and Doug Smith, there was a to of action around the area, we stayed in Ponca City where Matlock and Ron Feebis was and played Bartlesville Bob in, of course Bartlesville.

I think it was 82 or 83 at Reds in Houston, when Effie first showed up. F.R. and the Goose went at it, on a bar table. It was either 46 or 54 hrs of non-stop play. The Goose busted the Gander, took em awhile :). Never seen or heard of another match going that long anywhere in the USA.

The Goose was wearing a white outfit and looked sharp. Wonder how that outfit looked after two solid days of straight play. Probably used the Big Ball.
 
a lot of Tony Montana want to be's around Miami at that time

Scarface came out in 83, not 86

Good catch, I had it confused with 'The Color of Money' - go figure! :)

I remember there were a lot of Tony Montana want to be's around Miami at that time.
 
just want to make sure the guy's dead before I tell the rest

Ok, where's the next chapter in this story?

I have it, just want to make sure the guy's dead before I make it public, also the statute of limitations is expired! :groucho:
 
CJ I saw you on youtube talking about playing around the fort Lauderdale area and going to a seminar. I believe the guys name was Randy something. Can you explain that to me. I was curious about it.
 
It opened up an awareness of things I would have had no clue about without training.

CJ I saw you on youtube talking about playing around the fort Lauderdale area and going to a seminar. I believe the guys name was Randy something. Can you explain that to me. I was curious about it.

The only seminars I went to were in Orlando with Richard Bandler. He taught
Ericksonian Hypnosis named after Milton Erickson who was one of the greatest of all time. I was 23 years old and all the others in the seminar were much older clinical therapists.

I always had a fascination for linguistics, and how words were used to program the mind.
It opened up an awareness of things I would have had no clue about without training.

Richard Bandler was one of the founders of Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP) which was made popular by one of his students Tony Robbins....last I heard Tony was worth well over 100 million, with books like 'Unlimited Power' and 'Awaken the Giant Within' -

This knowledge is useful in this day and age, powerful brainwashing techniques are being unleashed on the unsuspecting general population. If everyone had NLP knowledge TV Programming would not have such powerful influence, unfortunately, most people are extremely vulnerable because they don't recognize how it's done to them.

The Game is the Teacher
 
he had a limp, but the rumors of his death were drastically exaggerated.

I think it was 82 or 83 at Reds in Houston, when Effie first showed up. F.R. and the Goose went at it, on a bar table. It was either 46 or 54 hrs of non-stop play. The Goose busted the Gander, took em awhile :). Never seen or heard of another match going that long anywhere in the USA.

The Goose was wearing a white outfit and looked sharp. Wonder how that outfit looked after two solid days of straight play. Probably used the Big Ball.

The "Goose" Benny Conway was an incredible bar table player and hustler. I remember he was in Columbia playing at a spot they didn't know him. He had a "cane cue," with a bell on the back - When he stroked the shot it was disturbing.... ding a ding a ding...ding a ding a ding......DING!

Between the bell, the cigar and the waddle, had it been a comedy show they could have charged admission. :wink:

When he was in Kansas City he played Omaha John several times back when Larry Mayo was there betting High! Larry was capable of blowing a big number, I think Swanee beat him for $80,000 {approximately}, definitely a big score.

Benny ran 10 racks in a row on John one night, John ended up coming back and busting him. John was at another level, he may play for 3 days and not make a mistake on the "bar rag" back then. The next year he won the World Series of Tavern Pool for 25k.

Larry Mayo liked to play with the Big Cue Ball on the bar table and would take the 6 Ball from most road players. I gave it to him one night and it seemed like a bad game for a few hours, then something came over me and I beat him 20 ahead in about 90 minutes....that's bar pool, first one to get in the zone dominates!

Larry ended up getting blown up by a car bomb, I saw him a couple years later, he had a limp, but the rumors of his death were drastically exaggerated. :dance:
 
I played in a pool league in North Kansas City about 1989 to 90? and Larry Mayo and his Son were on an apposing team. My best days shooting were in the 60s, but I was keeping up with the best. I remember talking to Larry about his high stakes gambling. His Son told me he was better than Larry. Not so. I would like to have played Larry, but my pockets were not nearly as deep as his.
 
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