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You're tilting at the wrong windmill, nobbie. I'm not here to argue, and you should know that by now. I'm not here all that often. I just call 'em as I see 'em, when I'm here, and if your short memory hasn't done an end-run, that I often back aiming systems.

I find it funny that because you didn't like how I replied, you're trying to lump me in with those that are wanting to argue, from just a *single* post. :D

-Sean <-- didn't know his debating knife was so sharp to cause this kind of reply with a single post; will have to rub his debating knife on some concrete to dull it

Not tilting any windmills Sonnie. I was simply trying to respond to you with the same condescending tone I perceived in your post direct to me. If that's a problem for you, consider the tone of your post before making it if I'm involved. If it isn't, proceed as you will.

I didn't attempt to lump you in with anyone, my post addressed you and you alone (as this one does). Work on the reading comprehension Sonnie.
 
This one might get closed too. :eek::grin-square:

And certain folks wonder why aiming threads dip their wing and do the death-spiral into the ground.

Nobcitypool used to be a level-headed person. Now I'm beginning to think he can spot Neil in the anger department. ;)

-Sean
 
And certain folks wonder why aiming threads dip their wing and do the death-spiral into the ground.

Nobcitypool used to be a level-headed person. Now I'm beginning to think he can spot Neil in the anger department. ;)

-Sean
Wait..what did you say?lol nob nob used to be a level headed person.
I actually thought you was one of the smartest guys here...you just blew it.

I'm pretty sure if the Pope was on this aiming forum,nob would end up calling him a troll sooner or later. Lol

He would make a good cheerleader.
 
Wait..what did you say?lol nob nob used to be a level headed person.
I actually thought you was one of the smartest guys here...you just blew it.

I'm pretty sure if the Pope was on this aiming forum,nob would end up calling him a troll sooner or later. Lol

He would make a good cheerleader.

Well, just goes to show you can't please everyone.

First, nobbie. Now, I blew it with 8pack.

-Sean <-- going for strike 3, but hey, I'm swinging for the fences! :p :D
 
Well.....Yeah,

Some argument is fairly interesting. We cant shoot each other through the computer. I think when it comes down to name calling and threats that's when to pull the plug. I was right in there and it just didn't seem all that bad to me. It seemed to me that the argument was actually trying to get back to the intention of thread and of course you had the whole cte vs. naysayer bs. I think Joey was trying to get people to think outside the box and beyond what their core beliefs are when it comes to aiming. Which I can admire. Its still kind of interesting that the biggest CTE proponent their is....JB lost that match to Lou and that didn't change a thing. Yeah it is, no it isn't.....lmao...Its never going to be settled...isn't it wonderful?

Joey was trying to say LIVE AND LET LIVE. But the people who don't want to do that will never agree to simply let the people who want to discuss and try aiming systems alone.

My whole platform has always been just let people experiment in peace.

IF you have a SPECIFIC proof then post it. IF you think that a method doesn't work then PROVE it. But please stop with the constant verbal attacks that prove nothing, the constant heckling and the accusations of selling snake-oil.

How would you feel Robin if every other time you posted I and others called you a snake-oil salesman because of the fact that you have written a book on aiming? After all there are several folks here who think ANY discussion of aiming is pointless and that anyone who SELLS material on aiming is a con-artist.

Are you a con-artist Robin? Or are you someone who loves pool and who has written a book on an aspect of the game that you think needed more consideration?

That's what this is all about.

As for me and Lou. I will happily play again when I am ready to play. Lou will NEVER play a good player who is an aiming system user. Although I played horrible I am not upset about it. I dogged a lot of the preparation and gained a lot more respect for what one pocket demands.

Let Lou play Stan if you want to see someone get manhandled by a good player armed with CTE. That match will never happen because there isn't a backer on the planet who will put up 10cts to see Lou get pounded into the ground by a good player.

This match wasn't about whether CTE is good or not, it is. It was about freedom of choice and standing up to bullies. I stood up to them and lost the pool match but gained a ton of experience and friends out of it so I still won. Of course winning the match would have been better but so what, I did what very few people would ever even try.

I can promise you this. If you were knocked as much as Stan has been knocked then you probably would not even be present right now. If people wanted to discuss the methods in your book and there was a small group of knockers intent on disrupting EVERY discussion of those methods you would be crying to the moderator for relief.

100%.
 
I get alot of grief and what not for what I post, but it doesn't stop me one bit from doing so when I feel the need to. I don't post to get warm

If you don't post because of other opinions are what not, you are the one with the problem. You care more about what other think than what you think you have to give to the pool playing community.
 
I get alot of grief and what not for what I post, but it doesn't stop me one bit from doing so when I feel the need to. I don't post to get warm

If you don't post because of other opinions are what not, you are the one with the problem. You care more about what other think than what you think you have to give to the pool playing community.

There is a difference between being a good part of the discussion and being a troll. Many of your posts are trolling.

You certainly see it otherwise but that's what they are. You have nothing to give to the pool playing community Duckie. At your level you should sit back and listen more. Maybe I should to but at least I have tried out the various methods that I want to speak about. You have not.

I tried your arrow. I read Cranfield's section on it. I made a bunch of arrows and tried your advice to give it a shot. I found it to not be very helpful and kind of cumbersome.

Did you ever try any of the aiming methods you knock? I don't recall that you ever did.
 
Really?

Joey was trying to say LIVE AND LET LIVE. But the people who don't want to do that will never agree to simply let the people who want to discuss and try aiming systems alone.

My whole platform has always been just let people experiment in peace.

IF you have a SPECIFIC proof then post it. IF you think that a method doesn't work then PROVE it. But please stop with the constant verbal attacks that prove nothing, the constant heckling and the accusations of selling snake-oil.

How would you feel Robin if every other time you posted I and others called you a snake-oil salesman because of the fact that you have written a book on aiming? After all there are several folks here who think ANY discussion of aiming is pointless and that anyone who SELLS material on aiming is a con-artist.

Are you a con-artist Robin? Or are you someone who loves pool and who has written a book on an aspect of the game that you think needed more consideration?

That's what this is all about.

As for me and Lou. I will happily play again when I am ready to play. Lou will NEVER play a good player who is an aiming system user. Although I played horrible I am not upset about it. I dogged a lot of the preparation and gained a lot more respect for what one pocket demands.

Let Lou play Stan if you want to see someone get manhandled by a good player armed with CTE. That match will never happen because there isn't a backer on the planet who will put up 10cts to see Lou get pounded into the ground by a good player.

This match wasn't about whether CTE is good or not, it is. It was about freedom of choice and standing up to bullies. I stood up to them and lost the pool match but gained a ton of experience and friends out of it so I still won. Of course winning the match would have been better but so what, I did what very few people would ever even try.

I can promise you this. If you were knocked as much as Stan has been knocked then you probably would not even be present right now. If people wanted to discuss the methods in your book and there was a small group of knockers intent on disrupting EVERY discussion of those methods you would be crying to the moderator for relief.

100%.

JB,
I think you have me way misunderstood. I commented on your match with Lou as a historical fact. I didn't say anything about how you represented cte....you played a tough ass match and you have my respect for that. One of these guys took something I said out of context and for the record I have a lot of respect for Stan and what hes done and have posted thus.

Im definitely not knocking cte or its users. Its not my cup of tea as I have said. Oh Im going to have my day getting knocked coming soon enough when I come out with my next two ebooks.

The trip I have taken through aiming they way Ive done its as been a ride and Ive enjoyed it a lot. Ive spent a lot of money working with this and that because I don't have room for a table. Ive not spent a lot of time working with systems that have already been discovered. Ive spent a lot of my time finding one of my own. The hardest part about anything like that is finding a way to represent it so that the reader will really understand whats being said. Im not a digital native and that has been a real challenge but Im happy with the results.

Believe me I have nothing but respect for you. What you did in the Lou match took a huge set of balls and I bet no one staked you. Im sure that was your money so if that's the case they are even bigger.

Im not sure if you mistook something I said, or someone misstated something I said but I sure as hell didn't intend to dis you.

As for Joey, he just likes to boost things up and watch folks go crazy. We have lots of folks like that where I work. I work in the Big House, retiring in October...whoo hoo.
 
To be honest, I don't think 1 pocket is the best game to play when you are trying to pit your aiming system against another. 1 pocket does require aiming, but far more importantly it requires knowledge of moves.

If you take the best aimer in the world that is not familiar with one pocket moves, and face them with your average short stop player and a seasoned 1 pocket player telling him every move to make, the aimer will get roasted for sure.

Lou was a more seasoned 1 pocket player, that was obvious. I think if another aiming system battle ensues, a rotation game or straight pool would be a much better indicator.
 
To be honest, I don't think 1 pocket is the best game to play when you are trying to pit your aiming system against another. 1 pocket does require aiming, but far more importantly it requires knowledge of moves.

If you take the best aimer in the world that is not familiar with one pocket moves, and face them with your average short stop player and a seasoned 1 pocket player telling him every move to make, the aimer will get roasted for sure.

Lou was a more seasoned 1 pocket player, that was obvious. I think if another aiming system battle ensues, a rotation game or straight pool would be a much better indicator.

No other on-table battle will ensue because none of the anti-aiming system folks want to take on the top proponents of aiming systems here.

As I said in the closed thread - one would think that the anti-system people would be eager to take all the shotmaking tests and end up on top of the system users. But they don't do it. Why not?

At the very least they could then say that it's possible for average players to be very good shotmakers without an overt conscious system. But they either are not able to beat the scores or they have some other reason for not showing their ability.
 
I get alot of grief and what not for what I post, but it doesn't stop me one bit from doing so when I feel the need to. I don't post to get warm

If you don't post because of other opinions are what not, you are the one with the problem. You care more about what other think than what you think you have to give to the pool playing community.


The grief you receive is well deserved Mr Duck! Your interaction with people on this forum just plane sukks.:smile: Matter of fact its very much like this arrow thing..no one really gives a sh!t about it.;) (Tell you the truth I have one)Shhh!
I'm not telling you this to be mean .No no..but to help you realize you must change your ways....life is short man and there's probably a lot people on this forum that would like to give you less grief, including myself but you make it tough.;)

The world is a stage, but the play is badly cast.

Sorry Anthony
 
I'm certain it won't work. I'll let others contribute and I'll return with the answer tomorrow

For all shots to a pocket I found CTE works pretty damn good on a snooker table.

However if you are talking banks which is what Stan means when saying CTE doesn't work on anything but 1:2 ratio tables then it could be true that CTE banks don't work on a snooker table if these specs are right.

From wikipedia:

"A regular full-size table measures 11 ft 81⁄2 in × 5 ft 10 in (3569 mm x 1778 mm), commonly referred to as 12 × 6 ft."

On an American snooker table, which is 5x10' or 1:2 ratio the system works as claimed.
 
6 x 12 Snooker table

Real CTE works just fine on Snooker tables. The 2x1 is off so slightly that it is negligible.
It would be about like staying that the playing surface of a 3x6 is a 1/4 inch off.

Phil Burford uses CTE PRO ONE on Snooker tables in England and has run a few 100s.

Over the years I have sold DVDS to Snooker regions of the world and NEVER a complaint.

ABSOLUTELY it works on snooker tables.

Stan Shuffett
 
I get alot of grief and what not for what I post, but it doesn't stop me one bit from doing so when I feel the need to. I don't post to get warm

If you don't post because of other opinions are what not, you are the one with the problem. You care more about what other think than what you think you have to give to the pool playing community.

You post useless info in aiming system threads
 
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