Sandites has regular 860 btw. Said that's what the new tables came with. They are nice tables.
Cloth 860 vs 920?
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It will last a long time. Don't worry about the marks. Just cosmetic.
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Ya, I had a few scraps left over and it is thick I will say that and I like the speed of it. I don't think I will have to worry about a dehumidifier. It should last a long while. If I was the OP I would go 860hr all day as long as they like fast play.
860HR is the best, but only slightly more expensive than 860. Only drawback is that it is only available in four colors (tournament blue, royal blue, Simonis green, blue/green) whereas 860 is available in virtually any color.
I don't think eye glass cleaning towel will reduce burn marks much. A 2" x 2" piece of bed cloth will make a difference
Nyquil
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Ya I can confirm your suspicion. I saw this as a recommendation on a YouTube vid. It does help prevent right at point of contact but that's about it.
Thx, what's the difference between the two?
Upon trying the 860 it really feels slow to me, maybe I need to get used to it.........But also the rails feels really really dead, is there anyway to speed those rails a little bit? or should I also get used to the dead rails? I might make a video to ask if this is normal or not because I feel they are more dead than what I saw on youtube on those tournament 860.
You might try a thing once suggested by Earl The Pearl, which is using a 760 cloth on the rails to make them more lively.
In case you are not willing to recloth the rails that soon, maybe try a transparent adhesive tape on the nose along the cushions (though I'm not sure if that really helps in your situation. I just remember that was a means of prolonging their lifespan at the Philippines or whereabouts)
And yes, 920/950 is for Russian market (Russian Pyramid game), and one of those numbers is actually a 760 (so that Simonis did not have to do anything different other than mark the package, and at the same time got local pyramid community thinking they received some special cloth exclusively for them)
Not without changing the cushions.
With 860 you should be able to easily get more than 4 but less than 5 rails going up and down the table….that’s the standard speed for a pool table with proper cushions. If your in that range then there’s nothing wrong with the cloth or cushion.
I'd like to test that.....do you mean just shooting the cueball as hard as I can up and down and see how many rails it can hit? can you show a video of this possibly?
If your rails are dead/replace em next time you recover.
Other than a level table, cushions and cloth and pockets cut properly are IMPORTANT.
No different than cutting the greens and setting cups at a golf course.
Using different cup sizes and cutting greens with different machines on different holes is not how it's done.
There's no way that new 860 should feel super sluggish. Maybe the cloth wasn't pulled tight enough. Also, if you're used to super fast cloth, then you must like to shoot very softly.
My rails do need replacement thats for sure, even the cuts near the pockets have issues and look rounded. But I feel that makes the pocket tougher which is nice for practice.
I asked one pool repairman about the rails of gold crown table and he told me the price, I was shocked. I can't remember exactly how much but he told me a very expensive price that I felt buying a new table was justifiable. lol
I don't normally shoot very softly. But I can shoot softly or hard depending on the shot, I am thinking to do a very short video showing the rails and how they respond. But if I had to buy new rails for my GC I may look online on ebay, because here the guy told me a very expensive price.
https://www.pooltablefeltcloth.com/simonis-760-vs-860.html Basically, its a little faster/slicker than reg. 860.
My place has 300 on the golf table. Like a sheet of green ice. FASSSSSST.
You are wrong. 950 is different cloth than 760. Material is exactly same as 760 but weave and nap cut is different. 950 is better than 760.You might try a thing once suggested by Earl The Pearl, which is using a 760 cloth on the rails to make them more lively.
In case you are not willing to recloth the rails that soon, maybe try a transparent adhesive tape on the nose along the cushions (though I'm not sure if that really helps in your situation. I just remember that was a means of prolonging their lifespan at the Philippines or whereabouts)
And yes, 920/950 is for Russian market (Russian Pyramid game), and one of those numbers is actually a 760 (so that Simonis did not have to do anything different other than mark the package, and at the same time got local pyramid community thinking they received some special cloth exclusively for them)
Yes basically….it doesn’t have to be hard as one can because no matter how hard one can hit the ball it shouldn’t catch 5 rails fwiw. No can’t post a video I’m in the Gulf of Mexico at the moment.