Here's a scenario where it would help you to intentionally lose: Say you bought half of John in the auction, or all of him (if he didn't buy half himself back), and you also bought yourself. You and John are playing in the winner's bracket final. You are a stronger player than John, and you feel confident that if you lose to John, you'll have a much better chance winning the loser's bracket final match (the semi-finals) and making it back to the finals, where you feel confident you can beat John, even is it's a true double elimination tournament and you'll have to beat him 2 straight sets. By losing to John in that match, you feel is your best chance to be able to sweep 1st and 2nd place in the calcutta. If you beat John in that match, you may feel it's more likely John may lose that semi-final match and you'll only end up taking 1st and 3rd. Yes, it's a risk, as there is no guarantee you'll be able to win that semi-final match or be able to beat John 2 straight sets in the finals which you wouldn't have to do if you were the one on the hill.
Collusion in Calcutta's
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I played a calcutta tourney this past weekend. Jim bought me and I bought half of myself back. I bought Don & sold half back to him. Jim gets knocked out early. Don & me play for 3rd & go hill:hill. I am tired and I know he is a better 9b player than me, has a better chance at winning the tourney than I do. I don't dump, but I also am not eager to win, because my chances of getting any farther are slim and it's a good chance he'd win the tourney. Him beating me would result in me winning more cash, as the odds go. He does win the last game and continues on to split the tourney win.
Here's where it gets funky. He and another player split 1st & 2nd. He and Jim had a deal to split whatever they win before tourney even began. I have him in the calcutta, and Jim has me AND second & third place players in the calcutta. We were all splitting money here & there. Literally one bill got ripped in the exchanges. When the dust settled, it was all fair and we were all happy. Jim made out like a bandit because he never won a match yet made the most money.
As goofy, confusing, and seemingly crooked as it all sounds, nobody involved got screwed. And I don't think this stuff is what kills the image pool. Golf is WAY worse & for much larger sums of cash. Nobody looks down on golf.
Here's where it gets funky. He and another player split 1st & 2nd. He and Jim had a deal to split whatever they win before tourney even began. I have him in the calcutta, and Jim has me AND second & third place players in the calcutta. We were all splitting money here & there. Literally one bill got ripped in the exchanges. When the dust settled, it was all fair and we were all happy. Jim made out like a bandit because he never won a match yet made the most money.
As goofy, confusing, and seemingly crooked as it all sounds, nobody involved got screwed. And I don't think this stuff is what kills the image pool. Golf is WAY worse & for much larger sums of cash. Nobody looks down on golf.
Same thing just happened in Halifax NS . Owner/ director did the draw in private before the Calcutta, proceeded to buy the 4 top pros that showed up with the 18,000 he raked . All were spaced out in the draw of 240 players.......then announced he was taking 10% of the Calcutta for the house , and only 4 spots paid.......lol. Yes, they finished 1-4th. Great tournament , but total collusion on the Calcutta , and $75 green fees,,,,,,,,cant support that .
My quick guess is that the train travelling west ward would have to travel 1.35x faster to arrive at miss ellie's ranch, before the migrants get there.
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The guys will wait for the girls,no worries.
That's pretty much how I guessed it, too :scratchhead:
Two things (or my two cents, if you will)
1) As a player in the tournament, we should know that when we buy another player, there's a chance we could play our horse and end up in a spot, we've all done it who've played in more than a couple tourneys with calcuttas.
When I lay my money down on a player, I'm always taking that into consideration. Which ties into....
2) Just play your game, and if you think the person you bought will win the tournament (or even come second) he should beat you, right? What if he's off that night? What if your in dead punch and beat him? Having faith in yourself and your game might propel you deeper into the money.
Either way, your horse will appreciate the test of skill, it'll help him bear down later on, perhaps. Or you'll beat him, and get even deeper into the brackets, lining your pockets. I wouldn't dump, IMO.
Anyone I shoot with knows I shoot back.
1) As a player in the tournament, we should know that when we buy another player, there's a chance we could play our horse and end up in a spot, we've all done it who've played in more than a couple tourneys with calcuttas.
When I lay my money down on a player, I'm always taking that into consideration. Which ties into....
2) Just play your game, and if you think the person you bought will win the tournament (or even come second) he should beat you, right? What if he's off that night? What if your in dead punch and beat him? Having faith in yourself and your game might propel you deeper into the money.
Either way, your horse will appreciate the test of skill, it'll help him bear down later on, perhaps. Or you'll beat him, and get even deeper into the brackets, lining your pockets. I wouldn't dump, IMO.
Anyone I shoot with knows I shoot back.
Best Calcutta story was when Mike Janis banned Jack Hines from the Viking Tour. Jack took 1st 3 weeks in a row. 3rd week before the finals Jack told the guy who bought him in the Calcutta he was going to dump unless the guy agreed to split the Calcutta. Jack wins and asks the guy if he can hold the Calcutta money so he can count it and split up. Guy hands Jack the cash and Jack runs out the door with all the money.
He wasn't just acting crazy. He was the real deal.
He wasn't just acting crazy. He was the real deal.