Concluding Thoughts on WPC!

JAM

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Yeah, I know it's a little premature to initiate a thread about concluding thoughts, but with all of our American thoroughbreds out of the race, it is what it is, a battle between the two hometown champs. I kind of want Wu to win, a 16-year-old with a whole lot of heart to even be in the pit with the top guns of today. Makes for a happy ending to a magnificant World Pool Championship in Taiwan. :p

I've been reading the threads about "tight pockets," how they must have hindered the capabilities of the American players. Personally, the players I know who compete professionally and enjoy games of stake would most definitely prefer tight pockets. ;)

I cannot tell you how many times I have been in a pool room where there is that one special table with double- and triple-shimmed pockets, the local trap. I believe that American pro players, if given a choice, would choose "tight pockets" for a battlefield. Maybe a plea should be given to the industry members and promoters. In reality, they're the decision-makers on what the playing field is, not the players. :(

The coverage of the WPC website was incredibly fast and furious with the news. The article written about Efren Reyes leaving the arena was one of the best I have ever read. The Live Scoring feature and brackets were kept up to date for the inquiring minds around the world, actually the best pool coverage I've ever seen. :)

It was very interesting to read the WPC 9-Ball Forum, quite Philippino-populated. Replacing top Philippino Efren Reyes' name in the headlines was Marlon Manalo. Unlike AzB, reading the posts over there was quite enlightening. There ain't too much praise for the American players, and after the London bombing, one poster even labeled the U.S. as the real terrorist of the world. That caught American Patriot Ted Harris' eye, to which he responded. :D

Of course, with the Asian-restricted tours, some of our Asian-Pacific Islander friends do not have a familiarity with our players, and visa versa, I don't know too many of them. I hope to see some of the top Asian-Pacific Islander stars come to the States in the future, but with the lucrative nationality-restricted tours on their home turf, I can't see them venturing over here to win 10- or $15,000, the average money purse in the U.S. for very high-profile events. Remember when the Philippinos traversed the United States? Seeing one at an American event is a novelty these days. They're happy campers back home. :p

There was some WPC scuttlebutt, Schmidt unscrewing his stick mid match with Marcus Chamat, the usual Earl Strickland under-the-microscope comments, Danny Basavich taking the heat by numerous posters from around the world for his slow play, and the environmental conditions at this venue site, unlike most that our American players are accustomed to, the lack of air-conditioning, non-English-speaking referees, and lodging facilities which were undesirable. :o

It was interesting to read LadyRef's response about the WPC rules, how John Schmidt should have spoken up about the questionable foul call, if only he had known the WPC rules. A few years ago, I remember the similar occurrence happening with Alex Pagulayan, Charlie Williams, and Rodney Morris in Calgary (I think), with each of them not being familiar with the WPC rules and having a foul called on them during their matches. In the future, the Americans should have the rules on hand BEFORE the commencement of the WPC and go over every single one of those rules as a group. One foul could make the difference of a win or loss in this venue. ;)

Well, off my soap box for this morning, I'm off to see the finals through the eyes of other posters. Pool has come a long way, I must admit, and I see good things up ahead for the game/sport. I, for one, thoroughly enjoyed my WPC experience right here in the cockpit at home. We sure are a diverse group of folk. With language barriers and cultural differences, however, we are all members of the Tribal Nation of Pool. :)

JAM
 
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JAM said:
Yeah, I know it's a little premature to initiate a thread about concluding thoughts, but with all of our American thoroughbreds out of the race, it is what it is, a battle between the two hometown champs. I kind of want Wu to win, a 16-year-old with a whole lot of heart to even be in the pit with the top guns of today. Makes for a happy ending to a magnificant World Pool Championship in Taiwan. :p

I've been reading the threads about "tight pockets," how they must have hindered the capabilities of the American players. Personally, the players I know who compete professionally and enjoy games of stake would most definitely prefer tight pockets. ;)

I cannot tell you how many times I have been in a pool room where there is that one special table with double- and triple-shimmed pockets, the local trap. I believe that American pro players, if given a choice, would choose "tight pockets" for a battlefield. Maybe a plea should be given to the industry members and promoters. In reality, they're the decision-makers on what the playing field is, not the players. :(

The coverage of the WPC website was incredibly fast and furious with the news. The article written about Efren Reyes leaving the arena was one of the best I have ever read. The Live Scoring feature and brackets were kept up to date for the inquiring minds around the world, actually the best pool coverage I've ever seen. :)

It was very interesting to read the WPC 9-Ball Forum, quite Philippino-populated. Replacing top Philippino Efren Reyes' name in the headlines was Marlon Manalo. Unlike AzB, reading the posts over there was quite enlightening. There ain't too much praise for the American players, and after the London bombing, one poster even labeled the U.S. as the real terrorist of the world. That caught American Patriot Ted Harris' eye, to which he responded. :D

Of course, with the Asian-restricted tours, some of our Asian-Pacific Islander friends do not have a familiarity with our players, and visa versa, I don't know too many of them. I hope to see some of the top Asian-Pacific Islander stars come to the States in the future, but with the lucrative nationality-restricted tours on their home turf, I can't see them venturing over here to win 10- or $15,000, the average money purse in the U.S. for very high-profile events. Remember when the Philippinos traversed the United States? Seeing one at an American event is a novelty these days. They're happy campers back home. :p

There was some WPC scuttlebutt, Schmidt unscrewing his stick mid match with Marcus Chamat, the usual Earl Strickland under-the-microscope comments, Danny Basavich taking the heat by numerous posters from around the world for his slow play, and the environmental conditions at this venue site, unlike most that our American players are accustomed to, the lack of air-conditioning, non-English-speaking referees, and lodging facilities which were undesirable. :o

It was interesting to read LadyRef's response about the WPC rules, how John Schmidt should have spoken up about the questionable foul call, if only he had known the WPC rules. A few years ago, I remember the similar occurrence happening with Alex Pagulayan, Charlie Williams, and Rodney Morris in Calgary (I think), with each of them not being familiar with the WPC rules and having a foul called on them during their matches. In the future, the Americans should have the rules on hand BEFORE the commencement of the WPC and go over every single one of those rules as a group. One foul could make the difference of a win or loss in this venue. ;)

Well, off my soap box for this morning, I'm off to see the finals through the eyes of other posters. Pool has come a long way, I must admit, and I see good things up ahead for the game/sport. I, for one, thoroughly enjoyed my WPC experience right here in the cockpit at home. We sure are a diverse group of folk. With language barriers and cultural differences, however, we are all members of the Tribal Nation of Pool. :)

JAM

JAM, I agree with much of what you have said here. The WPC site was just great in my opinion. I woke up every morning to check on the results since we are 12 hours behind Taipei time.

Many great articles to read but I didn't see many posters from the US participating in the Forum. I was fun to learn the thoughts of posters from half-way around the World, particularly those from the Phillipines and Taiwan. Something impressive I saw was that many of these posters wrote pretty good English language. Easy to understand, and some with some very powerful words. I liked the Forum, and although the WPC is over, the Forum is still alive.

With regards to the rules, I guess it is the players responsbility to make sure they get them and read them. I guess all World Federation Presidents get those rules by email (I got them). It is then our responsibility to get those rules forwarded to your respective players. (I had 2 players who qualified but we could not make it because of prohibitive air-fare prices). Therefore, it was probably someone's oversight that the rules did not get distributed to the ones who should have them the most; in this case, the players.

By now you should now that Wu won the finals in dramatic fashion. Kuo got to the hill but watched helplessly as Wu made 5 racks consecutively to win the coveted Title. The guy is only 16 years old. His win will be remembered as one of the most amazing stories of WPC history.

Keep up those great posts. I trully enjoy them.


Harold Acosta - President
Puerto Rican Billard Federation
 
Puerto Rico has a strong pool following. I know NYC's Frankie Hernandez, though he lives in Queens, is very proud of his Puerto Rican heritage. I was kind of hoping to see him compete in the upcoming Mohegan Sun Challenge for $25,000, and even though he was not selected, I was happy to see that a champion from Puerto Rico will be in attendance.

In the scheme of things, the popularity of pool in the United States pales in comparison to our Asian-Pacific Islander friends. I'm still reeling in the excitement of 16-year-old Wu being the 2005 World Pool Champion.

Because of the abundance of pocket billiard games out there and the variety of rules, I would think that a good foundation and knowledge of the rules to any event would be imperative. It does not sound to me as if the American players were cognizant of the WPC rules in their entirety, but I may be mistaken.

I'm sure we'll be seeing the Puerto Rican contingency at the upcoming U.S. Open in September. The August-September time frame is full of events every single week, nice-paying events. Hope to see you on the tournament trail sometime soon! :)

This WPC was the best ever. I had a blast on this forum! :D

JAM
 
JAM said:
Puerto Rico has a strong pool following. I know NYC's Frankie Hernandez, though he lives in Queens, is very proud of his Puerto Rican heritage. I was kind of hoping to see him compete in the upcoming Mohegan Sun Challenge for $25,000, and even though he was not selected, I was happy to see that a champion from Puerto Rico will be in attendance.

In the scheme of things, the popularity of pool in the United States pales in comparison to our Asian-Pacific Islander friends. I'm still reeling in the excitement of 16-year-old Wu being the 2005 World Pool Champion.

Because of the abundance of pocket billiard games out there and the variety of rules, I would think that a good foundation and knowledge of the rules to any event would be imperative. It does not sound to me as if the American players were cognizant of the WPC rules in their entirety, but I may be mistaken.

I'm sure we'll be seeing the Puerto Rican contingency at the upcoming U.S. Open in September. The August-September time frame is full of events every single week, nice-paying events. Hope to see you on the tournament trail sometime soon! :)

This WPC was the best ever. I had a blast on this forum! :D

JAM

The 2005 International Challenge of Champions has a first prize of $50,000. Nice piece of change. Only 8 players get to participate. Mostly International Champions. Anyway, the Player from Puerto Rico who was selected is the 2004 and 2005 Panamerican Champion. This yearly tournament includes players from Mexico all the way down to Argentina, that is Mexico, all of Central and South America including the Caribbean. 17 Countries are affiliated to the CPB (Panamerican Billiard Confederation). 64 players, including almost all National Champions from 15 Countries participated in the recent event held in Aruba, a Dutch-Caribbean Island near Venezuela.

The CPB was granted one slot for the Challenge of Champions, and it was decided by all member countries that the Panamerican Champion was to represent the CPB at this year's tournament. That is how Alan Rolon from Puerto Rico got selected.

About the US Open, there is practically two contingents from Puerto Rico. The ones living in the U.S, and the upcoming Players from the Island. The players from the US are: Jose Garcia, Frankie Hernandez, Tony Robles, Mike Lebron, Flaco Rodriguez, Robby Saez, and Luis Viera. Another player living in the US, is Julio Aquino who is tearing up the Fury Amateur Florida Tour.

Then we have the Players from the Island of Puerto Rico. Alan Rolon, Jason Cruz, Miguel Laboy, Rafy Kilgore, Edwin Garcia, Jose Rodriguez, Pee Wee Laboy, Pito Batista, Francisco Pintado, Jorge Rivera, Luis Cancel, Edgardo Ramirez, Edgardo Irizarry, Evangelista Morales, Robert Fernandez, Ed Trujillo, all whom have played in US Tournaments, being the US Open, Valley Forge, the Big Apple, Florida Tour or the BCA Nationals.

I'm certain some names have skipped my mind right now but we have many upcoming players that will someday make their rounds in the US.

I dont know if you noticed but I was at the Open this past year. The Red Head chubby guy who always had a shirt with the Puerto Rican flag or our Federation Logo. Many of times I was out there smoking with all of you.

I don't know if I'll make it this year to the Open, but some of our Players will.

Take care now..
 
juegabillar said:
The 2005 International Challenge of Champions has a first prize of $50,000. Nice piece of change. Only 8 players get to participate. Mostly International Champions. Anyway, the Player from Puerto Rico who was selected is the 2004 and 2005 Panamerican Champion. This yearly tournament includes players from Mexico all the way down to Argentina, that is Mexico, all of Central and South America including the Caribbean. 17 Countries are affiliated to the CPB (Panamerican Billiard Confederation). 64 players, including almost all National Champions from 15 Countries participated in the recent event held in Aruba, a Dutch-Caribbean Island near Venezuela.

WOW, you need to stop by AzBilliards more often, Juegabillar. I did not know that. And yes, that 50 dimes is going to be a nice purse for one lucky player in August, I believe. The $15,000-added Big Apple tournament in New York City is happening right after the 2005 International Challenge of Champions at Mohegun Sun, and it's a short drive to get there.

juegabillar said:
The CPB was granted one slot for the Challenge of Champions, and it was decided by all member countries that the Panamerican Champion was to represent the CPB at this year's tournament. That is how Alan Rolon from Puerto Rico got selected...I don't know if I'll make it this year to the Open, but some of our Players will.

Alan Rolon, I've been seeing him more frequently on the tournament trail. Good luck to him! It sure would a great win, indeed! I'll be staying tuned for this one. :)

JAM
 

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JAM said:
...This WPC was the best ever.....

I agree 100%. And, as we've seen, the number of great nineball players in the world has grown demonstrably.

I've been attending pro tournaments for about thirty years now, and have attended hundreds of different world class level tournaments. I really don't recall ever seeing a stronger or deeper field than this one.

The magnificent Wu and the equally brilliant Kuo were certainly the big stories of this WPC, and yet the event was defined every bit as much by guys like Nguyen of Vietnam and Foldes of Hungary, both of whom reached the last sixteen, who showed us that fine players are being bred just about everywhere.

The greatest field ever assembled played on tough equipment that befit their incredible skills, and the result, in my opinion, was the greatest nineball event that pool has ever produced. Congratulation to Matchroom Sports on this great achievement, and thank to all 128 players for producing some of the greatest drama that this sport has ever known.
 
JAM said:
WOW, you need to stop by AzBilliards more often, Juegabillar. I did not know that. And yes, that 50 dimes is going to be a nice purse for one lucky player in August, I believe. The $15,000-added Big Apple tournament in New York City is happening right after the 2005 International Challenge of Champions at Mohegun Sun, and it's a short drive to get there.



Alan Rolon, I've been seeing him more frequently on the tournament trail. Good luck to him! It sure would a great win, indeed! I'll be staying tuned for this one. :)

JAM

I've been around for quite some time. Mainly lurking. I've sent a couple of press releases to Mike, here at AZ Billiards about the Panam Championships and other tournaments.

Been visiting this Forum a lot more since the WPC started. I guess I'll stick around here more often; however, sometimes I'm just too busy working with our Federation in Puerto Rico. Lots of hard work, and all is done after regular working hours.

Puerto Rico is listed at the World Pool Billiard Association Website, under South America. All pertinent info is listed there.

There is also a CPB website in Spanish and English. Just visit www.cpbillar.org. You'll find my picture there, along with the leaders of the member-countries.

There is also a website from the Aruban and Netherland Antilles Federation. Visit www.poolinaruba.com and www.febiko.com, both sites are in English.

We have a temporary website at: www.trak.to/fpb, this one in Spanish.

Give these sites a visit whenever you get some spare time....
 
JAM said:
The $15,000-added Big Apple tournament in New York City is happening right after the 2005 International Challenge of Champions at Mohegun Sun, and it's a short drive to get there.

JAM

There is a scheduling conflict with the Big Apple Tournament in New York.

The 2005 International Challenge of Champions begins on August 10, with the Finals on August 11. The Press Release for the 3rd Annual Big Apple indicates that play begins Thursday, August 11 at 11:30 am, with the Players meeting being held on Wednesday, August 10 at 8:00 pm.

I've been scambling to schedule Alan's trip for both tournaments but it seems he will only be able to attend the International Challenge of Champions.

I haven't seen any post about this conflict in any of the known forums I've attended but I didn't bring this up because I would obviously be more interested in the Tournament where Alan has his best chances; that being the International Challenge of Champions; whereas only 8 Players will be vying for that nice $50,000 purse.

Too bad, though. This was an opportunity for more exposure by our Champion....

Next time....
 
I always felt the Puerto Rico are underrated since they were runner up to the Philippines in the team nation competition. I mean they have some really good players but did someone from Puerto has ever made a run at the WPC since 1999. Rolon was not able to come this year. I know Robles won BCA last year but I also want to know if they gamble a lot over there.
 
Thanks for the compliment Juegabillar. Most of the Pinoy posters in the forum were hardworking blue collar workers, who play pool after work. There some things about the Philippines that escape the news, just as there are some things about America the rest of the world dont know.

Its probably because all the news shows are politicians. we also got stupid politicians, crooked politicians (hey redundunt adjective i may say)

:D :D
 
Truly the Internet must be the greatest invention mankind has ever produced (well actually, if we didn't have the telephone to begin with, there'd be no internet. likewise, without the silicon chip, there'd be no computers, thus no internet. so, the internet is actually just an innovation, an amalgam of different existing technologies put together. but, you know what i mean...). Here we all are, sitting comfortably in our respective homes (or offices or internet cafes), and exchanging ideas with people from every corner of the globe (actually, the globe, being spherical, does not have corners, but you know what i mean)! God bless America! (It's a well-known fact that the internet is an american innovation, just like the atom bomb. We'd have to admit, much of the technologies we take for granted now have a military background, like the microwave oven, developed by raytheon, a US military supplier. And GPS, which has wonderful uses never before imagined, is a US military technology.) God bless the world!

Whew, I got carried away there. All I wanted to say was that it is a wonderful world where we can communicate instantly with people from such diverse regions of the world as puerto rico, the philippines, washington and new york in america, norway, finland, taiwan, germany, etc. and share a common love for something as mundane as pool. I have faith that we, as a planet, can pull together yet! (if the politicians don't kill us first and take credit for everything!)
 
sliqueshot said:
I always felt the Puerto Rico are underrated since they were runner up to the Philippines in the team nation competition. I mean they have some really good players but did someone from Puerto has ever made a run at the WPC since 1999. Rolon was not able to come this year. I know Robles won BCA last year but I also want to know if they gamble a lot over there.


hey, sliqueshot, when was this team nation competition? was this the Patriot Cup? I wonder what happened to that? Did it ever happen again? now that's what i like to see: an expanded mosconi cup with all the great pool-playing nations! then we'll see who's really the best! hehe

taiwan vs germany vs the phils vs USA vs puerto rico vs luxemburg, well, you get the idea....
 
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Great observation Jam.
Btw, it's Filipino not Philippino.
It's kinda sad we don't get to watch WPC live.
Biggest event of our sport, we don't tv coverage of it.
Really sad.
 
sliqueshot said:
I always felt the Puerto Rico are underrated since they were runner up to the Philippines in the team nation competition. I mean they have some really good players but did someone from Puerto has ever made a run at the WPC since 1999. Rolon was not able to come this year. I know Robles won BCA last year but I also want to know if they gamble a lot over there.

To my recollection, both Tony Robles and Frankie Hernandez come from Puerto Rican families, but both were born in New York, both grew up in New York, and both have lived their entire lives in New York. I know they were close friends at a very young age growing up in Brooklyn and that both learned their pool playing at a Brooklyn poolroom owned by Robles' father.
 
Renegade said:
Truly the Internet must be the greatest invention mankind has ever produced (well actually, if we didn't have the telephone to begin with, there'd be no internet. likewise, without the silicon chip, there'd be no computers, thus no internet. so, the internet is actually just an innovation, an amalgam of different existing technologies put together. but, you know what i mean...). Here we all are, sitting comfortably in our respective homes (or offices or internet cafes), and exchanging ideas with people from every corner of the globe (actually, the globe, being spherical, does not have corners, but you know what i mean)! God bless America! (It's a well-known fact that the internet is an american innovation, just like the atom bomb. We'd have to admit, much of the technologies we take for granted now have a military background, like the microwave oven, developed by raytheon, a US military supplier. And GPS, which has wonderful uses never before imagined, is a US military technology.) God bless the world!

Whew, I got carried away there. All I wanted to say was that it is a wonderful world where we can communicate instantly with people from such diverse regions of the world as puerto rico, the philippines, washington and new york in america, norway, finland, taiwan, germany, etc. and share a common love for something as mundane as pool. I have faith that we, as a planet, can pull together yet! (if the politicians don't kill us first and take credit for everything!)

Actually the "internet" or the "world wide web" are more the "creation" of Tim Berners Lee who is Swiss and lives in Switzerland. This is because he developed the protocol under which web pages are written so that any browser can read them. IIRC. The internet, when refererring to globally linked networked computers is something that many computer scientists can take credit for. The idea was first born in order to provide university research labs the ability to share information and work on projects together.

And the term "cyberspace" was coined by the guy who wrote "Snow Crash". Good book, even as I forget the author's name.

John
 
JoeyInCali said:
It's kinda sad we don't get to watch WPC live.
Biggest event of our sport, we don't tv coverage of it.
Really sad.

And with the time difference, it's not like there's anything going on over here at that hour... what is ESPN thinking??
 
JoeyInCali said:
...Btw, it's Filipino not Philippino....

Thanks, JoeyInCali! :) I have ALWAYS had a problem deciding on which to use, and the topic has come up more than once with my cohorts. Though the word doesn't come up very often when doing World Bank, global think-tank groups, and United Nations transcripts, the word does pop up quite often on pool-related forums! :D

According to Nouns and Adjectives Denoting Nationality in the GPO Manual, they’ve got “Filipino(s),” with one “p.” Another one I’ve always struggled with was Muslim or Moslem and Al-Qaeda with a “d” or Al-Qaeta with a “t.” I usually pick one spelling and stick with it for consistency.

These are the kind of debates I get into around the coffee pot with co-workers. :p

Then I come across this explanation found on a Google search:
Just to clarify symantics:

The islands are called the "Philippine Islands" or "Philippines"

A person from the region is described in English as "Filipino" or "Filipina." The national language is also called "Filipino" in English. Filipino has no "F" sound, as it is based on Tagalog, a dialect native to the Manila (or Maynila) region spoken by the Tagalog people.

So a person from the region is described in Filipino as "Pilipino" or "Pilipina."

Now, if you come to the USA, there are a lot of Filipinos who like to say "Pilipino" because either A) they have an accent, B) sounds better, C) a political statement against Anglicanization. Some consider C silly, as the term is already European in origin. Since there was no catch all term for the Philippines before European colonialism, there isn't a well known indigenous term around, so Pilipino or Filipino it is.

To confuse things further, Pilipinos came to the USA back in the 20s, 30s and such, mainly to work the fields, as the National Origins act had tried up the influx of Japanese laborers, and the Chinese Exclusionary Act did the same to the Chinese immigrants. An aspect of the Tydings-McDuffie act would also limit Pilipino immigration later. But for these immigrants, they were Ilocano, Cebuano, Tagalog, etc. They didn't call each other Pilipino, instead they use the term "Pinoy" or "Pinay" as a catch all for people from the Philippines.

So basically, Pilipino or Filipino... personal preferance. Same thing in my book, but some of my old militant college friends would insist on Pilipino (note: it is NOT Filippino, Fillipino, or even Philippino). So I would say that's safe. On the other hand a Pilipino friend of mine was applying for a job, and put Pilipino instead of Filipino for his ethnicity. The interviewer insisted that he mispelled it, and said it didn't look to good.


So, from now on, it's never a "P-h," always an "F" at the beginning, and only one "l" and one "p." The proper pronunciation, though not used often in U.S., is a no hard "F" sound at the beginning of the word; rather, a hard "P sound.

I'm always looking to increase my word database. Can't wait to lay this one on the gals at the coffee pot during the next word debate! :cool:

JAM
 
Sweet Marissa said:
And with the time difference, it's not like there's anything going on over here at that hour... what is ESPN thinking??
They show bass fishing and/or two white guys duking it out for four rounds during those hours. Now, that's really late according to one comedian.
 
onepocketchump said:
Actually the "internet" or the "world wide web" are more the "creation" of Tim Berners Lee who is Swiss and lives in Switzerland. This is because he developed the protocol under which web pages are written so that any browser can read them. IIRC. The internet, when refererring to globally linked networked computers is something that many computer scientists can take credit for. The idea was first born in order to provide university research labs the ability to share information and work on projects together.

The wide area computer network protocol known by acronym as TCP/IP, was developed by the US DoD. Yes, they developed it to expedite communications between educational institutes, research facilities, defense contractors, and the DoD. From there these technologies began to be managed by academics through the RFC process, but again the original work was the DoD. This eventually became known as 'the Internet' (the "I" in "IP") which is a service built up by many. There is quite an evolution from the beginnings in the 60s. We've had arpanet, aloanet, bitnet and netnorth to build off of, but the various telephone companies, cable operators, and long-haul-fibre outfits have built it to what it is today. The Swiss dude just developed http / html. There were a few 'ml's (Markup Languages, which are ways of describing (marking-up) things) before his, but what an application. What we see today is a lot more than his original hyper-linked text sites. Please don't confuse 'the Internet' with 'the Web'.

Dave, who first saw the 'Web' when it was under 100 sites worldwide.
 
DaveK said:
The wide area computer network protocol known by acronym as TCP/IP, was developed by the US DoD. Yes, they developed it to expedite communications between educational institutes, research facilities, defense contractors, and the DoD. From there these technologies began to be managed by academics through the RFC process, but again the original work was the DoD. This eventually became known as 'the Internet' (the "I" in "IP") which is a service built up by many. There is quite an evolution from the beginnings in the 60s. We've had arpanet, aloanet, bitnet and netnorth to build off of, but the various telephone companies, cable operators, and long-haul-fibre outfits have built it to what it is today. The Swiss dude just developed http / html. There were a few 'ml's (Markup Languages, which are ways of describing (marking-up) things) before his, but what an application. What we see today is a lot more than his original hyper-linked text sites. Please don't confuse 'the Internet' with 'the Web'.

Dave, who first saw the 'Web' when it was under 100 sites worldwide.


I am neither a techno-geek nor an ueberengineer. I am a small scale student of history however.

As this site adequately points out, www.nethistory.com - there are many who claim to have been the origin of the internet. The truth is that it developed in the minds and labrotories of many individuals and organizations. TCP/IP and HTTP are just the protocols that were adopted widely, not the only ones that ever worked or were ever developed.

One thing is clear though, the American military did not create the internet. And the word internet is equated with the term 'world wide web' so that both are interchangeble in common speech. While they are somewhat different by definition, they are the same in spirit, signifying connectivity and access to information.

John
 
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