If you say so.If I am understanding this correctly, you are agreeing with my buddy and by extension, me. Is that correct?
Confusion!.......Spin the Cue ball or Center Cue ball MOSTLY?
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Apologies, now I am confused. I am always wanting to learn and improve. If you are trying to say something different, could you clarify that for me so I can better understand please? Thank you!
I didn't "try" to say anything. I responded to what you had said and I'll let you interpret that as you see fit. I did not agree or disagree with anything you said. I just added to it. I'm sorry if that is difficult for you to understand. All I can say is read it again and then again if you must. It's not complicated.
Understand now, thanks
The easiest shot in pool is a dead straight shot. There’s only one way to hit it-straight.
Everything after that gets complex.
So learn to shoot straight, then take on other ideas until you reach your potential.
not complicated-at first anyways
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Fatboy
Everything after that gets complex.
So learn to shoot straight, then take on other ideas until you reach your potential.
not complicated-at first anyways
best
Fatboy
When I am able to shoot center and or vertical axis, the calculations are in the addition relm. Moving to the side adds another variable that the math analogy would be the calculations involve multiplication. Still easy stuff but statistics tell me that I make more mistakes with multiplication than addition. With side the speed( velocity and rpm) can change the path of the cue ball as well as the path of the object ball.
Barry Stark refered to side as "that damn stuff". Mastering center ball can be accomplished by playing with a phenolic tip and no chalk.
Barry Stark refered to side as "that damn stuff". Mastering center ball can be accomplished by playing with a phenolic tip and no chalk.
lol, yeah just today I was practicing by setting up the exact same shot and playing every type of english on the same shot. Center ball, right, top right, top, top left, left bottom left, bottom, bottom right... Then I'd setup a different shot and do the same thing.
Jaden
That's the wrong way to think about it. Every shot is just as easy and just as hard as the next. First off, almost never is there an exactly STRAIGHT shot. Secondly, even when there is, unless you're shooting a Tom Cruise rack, you're going to need to do something with it anyways and Thirdly, you still have to strike the cb where you intend and stroke straight, letting the pool cue do the work.
If you know what to do, every shot is just as hard and just as easy.
That's why one of the hardest shots to PLAY, not make mind you, but play, is when a ball is sitting in the corner. Sure, if you hit it, it's going to fall but if it's not the last ball on the table, you STILL need to hit it exactly where you want at the exact speed and with the exact English that you need to fall correctly on the next ball. How many times do pros screw up shape and how many OF those times is on a ball sitting in the corner.
You get a false sense of security when the ball is so easy to make. You should be no less and no more confident about any shot you're shooting. Watch the top pros, when they miss a lot of the time it's because they get tentative and don't stroke it right, but yet when they aren't tentative and they just stroke the same as on every other shot, they'll fire in shots that you wouldn't think are even possible.
Jaden
Agree with Jaden but to add a little more, I think all of us struggle with putting away the money ball sometime or another in our learning curve. We dog easy shots like that corner shot. The reason is simple, we are making that shot different than any shot on the table and we don't practice it.
The solution is easy, always play shape coming off of the money ball. Now you have a place for the money ball to fall and the cue ball to stop, just like every other shot you practice all of the time. Where you are putting the cue ball can be easy and natural but it has to be planned as part of the shot. Viola! No more dogged money balls.
Of course we can dog the money ball for a lot of other reasons but adding that invisible next ball to get shape on will cure a lot of dogged money balls.
Hu
The solution is easy, always play shape coming off of the money ball. Now you have a place for the money ball to fall and the cue ball to stop, just like every other shot you practice all of the time. Where you are putting the cue ball can be easy and natural but it has to be planned as part of the shot. Viola! No more dogged money balls.
Of course we can dog the money ball for a lot of other reasons but adding that invisible next ball to get shape on will cure a lot of dogged money balls.
Hu
A great approach to the cue ball, I think you get my jokes. I also know from reading here a long time that you have a very good understanding of the cue ball, the game, and are a player.
Many people are under the impression punching and stunning the cue ball is limited to center cue ball. (( Wrong )) I think the ultimate stun/punch practice stroke is a shot running down the rail practically dead straight and stun it with left or right , depending on which side of the table you are on, and watch the cue ball take a sharp angle off the rail across the table.
If you can hit that stroke ,,you can hit any stun stroke with english. It takes extreme strike accuracy at 100 mph, again, not uncommon to a player that understands the cue ball and how to strike it. To everyone one else,,,it's multiple orgasms because they can't believe what they just saw the cue ball do, they don't understand the cue ball.
The obvious shot is play stop off the rail or left or right forward roll depending on what side of the table you're on, but that doesn't alwqys cut it
Punching the cue ball around with english is just another part of learning the cue ball that many have no clue it exists.
My new motto,,,,,Bring a straight stroke, cue ball knowledge , and go play pool.
Otherwise sit on the rail or live stream and have an orgasm,,,,lol.
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filerunner
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A polecat.It’s hard for me to disagree with Bob, because he’s a better player/teacher than I am. However we might have a difference of opinion. Or possibly I’m flat wrong.
As Jay noted this is interesting. I’m going to wait and read more posts before I say anything else.
I think we can all agree there’s more than one way to skin a cat. I really don’t want to skin a cat, but isn’t that the old saying?
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Fatboy
