Congrats to Danny Harriman 379 Ball Run Highest Ever on Video

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So when Lou F. asks "Did you polish the balls during the run?", it means:
"Did you do something that wrecks the integrity of this run, Danny?"
"Did you do something that would make the run a bit of a gaffe?"

You can pretend it's not implied and pull the "who me?" routine, of course.
But that doesn't change or remove the implication.

Tell me, how would you feel if you made a fantastic run and you were really proud of it,
it may even be a record of some sort, and someone came on here and implied your run
deserves an asterisk and wasn't really legitimate?

"Hey lou, did you do anything to give yourself a little extra help on this run?
Put a ball back down that popped out of the hole? Forget to put a foot on the floor?
Spray silicone all over the table? Maybe give yourself the handspan?"


Without an answer from Danny I am not implying anything.

Second, I make sure that when I run balls, I'm not picking up the CB, or polishing them mid-run (repeatedly), or even continuing if I accidentally touch a ball. IOW, I try to play it "according to Hoyle" because I hear there is this guy named Lou on the internet who will tear you a new one if your run ain't squeaky clean :-) So when/if the day comes that *I* do something, like say run a 100 on video, you or anyone else can ask whatever they want.

Lou Figueroa
 
Well, Danny, you didn't answer my question but I surmise from the statement that John and Sky were feeding you nicely that you are still in the area.

Congrats on one whale of a run in anyone's book.
 
I can't imagine being his opponent and having him run 379 balls. That is 27 racks. I assume he was playing the ghost, but just imagine racking and racking and racking. I would probably kick him in the ankle at some point.


Its been a while but when JA practices getting ready for Derby, JOB's he plays 14.1 at home. We dont talk he runs out I rack, he moves the coin for each rack, when he misses-I gather all the balls and rack them, coin goes back to the middle diamond or "0". He dont count balls, just racks-how strong is that?!?!?! When he gets to 10, then i can feel him getting more serious, happens more often that you might expect. Its cool being a rack boy-sometimes. Helping a champion train is a honer to me.

Of course this is his business so its treated like biz when I have done this(many times), I enjoy watching work out his patterns, I might need 132 going to 150 if we were in action-LOL I just keep my loud mouth shut and rack, I get the balls from the side pockets so he can chill between racks, we get a rhythm going thats pretty cool to see happen like that, some days it dont happen, but more of than than not it does. But he does have a "bad" day now and then, still strong by normal standards.


Can you imagine how cold you would be after a guy hits you with 350+ balls-misses and you have a long tester shot??. He is loose as a goose and might come with another 200. you would be cold, stiff and talk about pressure, wow. I realize this isnt a real world scenario, who plays races to 750?? this leads me to believe 125 to 150 points is no accident, this way neither player gets too cold waiting. Just a hunch.:confused:
 
Its been a while but when JA practices getting ready for Derby, JOB's he plays 14.1 at home. We dont talk he runs out I rack, he moves the coin for each rack, when he misses-I gather all the balls and rack them, coin goes back to the middle diamond or "0". He dont count balls, just racks-how strong is that?!?!?! When he gets to 10, then i can feel him getting more serious, happens more often that you might expect. Its cool being a rack boy-sometimes. Helping a champion train is a honer to me.

Of course this is his business so its treated like biz when I have done this(many times), I enjoy watching work out his patterns, I might need 132 going to 150 if we were in action-LOL I just keep my loud mouth shut and rack, I get the balls from the side pockets so he can chill between racks, we get a rhythm going thats pretty cool to see happen like that, some days it dont happen, but more of than than not it does. But he does have a "bad" day now and then, still strong by normal standards.


Can you imagine how cold you would be after a guy hits you with 350+ balls-misses and you have a long tester shot??. He is loose as a goose and might come with another 200. you would be cold, stiff and talk about pressure, wow. I realize this isnt a real world scenario, who plays races to 750?? this leads me to believe 125 to 150 points is no accident, this way neither player gets too cold waiting. Just a hunch.:confused:

Eric, clean out your mailbox please. Been trying to send you a private message.
 
Eric, clean out your mailbox please. Been trying to send you a private message.


there is room for one, ii'm sorry, hit it now.



tomaro i will clean it, i have lost of phone numbers etc and pendng biz deals in it,

i'm off to bed its 1am here.
 
...because I hear there is this guy named Lou on the internet, and no one gives a shit about his opinion, but he will make vague accusations because he lacks the balls to be direct but in his own mind feels like he is tearing you a new one if.....

Lou Figueroa

Ran this through the BS translator and fixed this for you.
 
Maybe this post yesterday from Danny answers your question:
Originally Posted by Danny Harriman
"I have a question for Schmidt, did he run the 366 on a table like the one at q-masters in Virginia that was doctored'? The only reason I ask is cause I inspected the table where he ran the 400 at q- masters and what I noticed was astounding. If the ball that was hit softly towards the pocket it would go if it got in the jaws - due to the slate being sanded where the ball rolls down-hill and actually accelerated. Plus the facings of the pocket were very soft, it was simply the softest table I had ever seen and I am not sure that a ball would even hang up in the pocket as a result of the sanded slate. I think a table like this should be illegal in Jay Helfert and Fatboys challenge offer. Did he use any jump cue's I know he likes to fall back on that as a cushion even if it's been agreed upon to be illegal. After looking over the table in Virginia I would be interested in inspecting the table where he ran his other high runs. It's not my intention to take anything away from Schmidt and his natural ability to play great pool however I realize now that some people are better at promoting themselves than others and sometimes unless we really look into the details we can be mislead. I am totally against any table where the slate has been sanded near the pocket to make the pocket accept balls like an industrial strength vaccum. Unfortunately not everyone wants a level playing field."​


Just curious: is anyone else familiar with this table?

Lou Figueroa
 
351

I cleaned the cue ball once and marked it with a piece of chalk in between racks around the middle of the 351 after I thought I might have caught a half-skid that scared me. The towel was micro-fiber and had the same liquid turtle wax on it that I used to clean the balls an hour or so prior to the run (which is ironic cause the fellow and his son who own the table actually own and operate a well established and successful turtle farm):). The same towel was used to wipe the other 14 balls in the rack once or twice while they were in the rack in between frames. I did not switch racks or cue balls, I do wish I would have cleaned the cue ball one more time or the thirteen for that matter before my last shot. I had left hand spin on the white and was cutting the thirteen to my right, I watched the thirteen in slow-mo and it twisted as if it had left spin. I do want to say that in competition I would never secretly wipe the cue ball down without my opponents consent, the room is an old garage that is comfortable but not insulated which means more moisure in the air. The skid on the thirteen did indeed put a damper on my moment in the sun - I am happy with this run and my game has improved. I would ask however that this post be taken down please as the 379 was and is not the correct number. So the feather remains in Schmidt's cap and his run is still the one to surpass on video but I hit the thirteen where I wanted to and there is nothing I can do about a skid. I do hold a grudge for the way Schmidt acted in both our TAR matches and I don't care if he used twenty sets of polished balls to complete his 366 - it is still a great run that remains - yall will have to forgive me for not wanting to view the 366 as I have already seen Schmidt's act up close and personal when the heat is on him.
 
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Just curious: is anyone else familiar with this table?

Lou Figueroa

I've practiced and gambled on that table many times. It's an old GC III with moderately forgiving pockets. I never noticed any "sanded" pocket edges.

I don't care what kind of table/pockets were used..........400+ balls is an extraordinary run.
 
Sanded Slate and dead facings = high runs

I've practiced and gambled on that table many times. It's an old GC III with moderately forgiving pockets. I never noticed any "sanded" pocket edges.

I don't care what kind of table/pockets were used..........400+ balls is an extraordinary run.

The softest Brunswick tables I have ever played on were at Comet billiards in Parsippany, the table at q-masters played way easier than those. I question DTL and the legitaty of his statement as I never mentioned what the table number was there at q-masters and don't plan on ever being there again. I should not have even brought it up and I am not interested in competing with Schmidt on the table - but with our little rivalry and behind closed doors draws I will probably play him first match as they do need to try and feel in control (probably due to lack of talent). I would not be a bit surprised if Schmidt did not ask the house man to replace the pockets after his big run so as if to make himself look immortal but I agree 400 is a great run. I am just tired of people who don't think it's important to keep their word and Schmidt fall's in that catagory I am sorry to say. I call em' how I see em' and he's a nit who needs to distract his opponent to win. In closing I would say that surpassing Schmidt's run is not important to me as some might think. It's always been a long term goal of mine to break the great Willie Mosconi's record - I feel it probably was legit and I have way more respect for him than Schmidt - and I did meet him once when I was sixteen.
 
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The softest Brunswick tables I have ever played on were at Comet billiards in Parsippany, the table at q-masters played way easier than those. I question DTL and the legitaty of his statement as I never mentioned what the table number was there at q-masters and don't plan on ever being there again. I should not have even brought it up and I am not interested in competing with Schmidt on the table - but with our little rivalry and behind closed doors draws I will probably play him first match as they do need to try and feel in control (probably due to lack of talent). I would not be a bit surprised if Schmidt did not ask the house man to replace the pockets after his big run so as if to make himself look immortal but I agree 400 is a great run. I am just tired of people who don't think it's important to keep their word and Schmidt fall's in that catagory I am sorry to say. I call em' how I see em' and he's a nit who needs to distract his opponent to win. In closing I would say that surpassing Schmidt's run is not important to me as some might think. It's always been a long term goal of mine to break the great Willie Mosconi's record - I feel it probably was legit and I have way more respect for him than Schmidt - and I did meet him once when I was sixteen.

I lived in VaBch off/on for 13 years while in the Navy. Most all regular Q-Master players know which table JS ran his 403 on. I've hit at least a 1/2 million balls in that room......most in the tournament area but quite a few on the "403" table.

Not that you'd be interested but I have a table you or JS could put up a big number on. It's a mint condition Brunswick Anniversary that plays perfect. The pockets wouldn't meet Jay's/FB criteria but it has similar specs to what Mosconi and the other greats played on. I've mentioned it here in other threads to John but he has never responded. I've put up a 155 on it and my goal is a 200+ before 2014......I'm shortstop speed.

Though not likely to happen, you're both invited to spend a week here (not at the same time, lol) to try and break 526.......got everything you need to stay comfy. Camera can do 8 hr.

DTL

ps Never saw "sanded" pocket edges because I never thought to even look for them.
 
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I lived in VaBch off/on for 13 years while in the Navy. Most all regular Q-Master players know which table JS ran his 403 on. I've hit at least a 1/2 million balls in that room......most in the tournament area but quite a few on the "403" table.

Not that you'd be interested but I have a table you or JS could put up a big number on. It's a mint condition Brunswick Anniversary that plays perfect. The pockets wouldn't meet Jay's/FB criteria but it has similar specs to what Mosconi and the other greats played on. I've mentioned it here in other threads to John but he has never responded. I've put up a 155 on it and my goal is a 200+ before 2014......I'm shortstop speed.

Though not likely to happen, you're both invited to spend a week here (not at the same time, lol) to try and break 526.......got everything you need to stay comfy. Camera can do 8 hr.

DTL

ps Never saw "sanded" pocket edges because I never thought to even look for them.

A "mint condition" Anniversary works for me also. Go ahead Danny, run a 550 and wow the world! It would actually be great for pool to see Mosconi's record broken, even if it's only an exhibition. The fact that it would be on tape would make it memorable. 10K big boy! :smile:
 
I cleaned the cue ball once and marked it with a piece of chalk in between racks around the middle of the 351 after I thought I might have caught a half-skid that scared me. The towel was micro-fiber and had the same liquid turtle wax on it that I used to clean the balls an hour or so prior to the run (which is ironic cause the fellow and his son who own the table actually own and operate a well established and successful turtle farm):). The same towel was used to wipe the other 14 balls in the rack once or twice while they were in the rack in between frames. I did not switch racks or cue balls, I do wish I would have cleaned the cue ball one more time or the thirteen for that matter before my last shot. I had left hand spin on the white and was cutting the thirteen to my right, I watched the thirteen in slow-mo and it twisted as if it had left spin. I do want to say that in competition I would never secretly wipe the cue ball down without my opponents consent, the room is an old garage that is comfortable but not insulated which means more moisure in the air. The skid on the thirteen did indeed put a damper on my moment in the sun - I am happy with this run and my game has improved. I would ask however that this post be taken down please as the 379 was and is not the correct number. So the feather remains in Schmidt's cap and his run is still the one to surpass on video but I hit the thirteen where I wanted to and there is nothing I can do about a skid. I do hold a grudge for the way Schmidt acted in both our TAR matches and I don't care if he used twenty sets of polished balls to complete his 366 - it is still a great run that remains - yall will have to forgive me for not wanting to view the 366 as I have already seen Schmidt's act up close and personal when the heat is on him.


Thanks for the answers, Danny. Great run.

Lou Figueroa
 
The softest Brunswick tables I have ever played on were at Comet billiards in Parsippany, the table at q-masters played way easier than those. I question DTL and the legitaty of his statement as I never mentioned what the table number was there at q-masters and don't plan on ever being there again. I should not have even brought it up and I am not interested in competing with Schmidt on the table - but with our little rivalry and behind closed doors draws I will probably play him first match as they do need to try and feel in control (probably due to lack of talent). I would not be a bit surprised if Schmidt did not ask the house man to replace the pockets after his big run so as if to make himself look immortal but I agree 400 is a great run. I am just tired of people who don't think it's important to keep their word and Schmidt fall's in that catagory I am sorry to say. I call em' how I see em' and he's a nit who needs to distract his opponent to win. In closing I would say that surpassing Schmidt's run is not important to me as some might think. It's always been a long term goal of mine to break the great Willie Mosconi's record - I feel it probably was legit and I have way more respect for him than Schmidt - and I did meet him once when I was sixteen.


I defer to your superior expertise and experience with different tables, but I would just like to throw out there that I played at Comet many times and did not think the tables there played soft. I thought they played fair, in terms of accepting a ball shot down the rail at speed, or to a corner pocket at an angle with speed. Overall, I think they played a hair on the tough side vs soft. The corner table reserved for 1pocket definitely didn't play soft.

Lou Figueroa
 
There's a prize now! I will pay $10,000 to the first player who can break Mosconi's record of 526 balls, playing on a 9' table with at least moderately tough pockets (read that no buckets). The two stipulations are that it MUST be recorded in its entirety, plus I want 50-50 rights on the sale of that DVD. I'm stupid like a fox. :smile:

P.S. Nice shooting Danny, glad to hear you're playing good. Hope to see you in Tunica and Vegas.

If this offer is "on the square," I think it is worthy of a press release on the Main Page of AzBilliards, as well as Billiards Digest. Why not invite the international brethren of players to achieve this endeavor! In fact, if handled properly, this could garner mainstream media attention, as well as prospective interested sponsors. IOW, that $10,000 prize could jump up to 20-, 30-, or even $50,000. :wink:

Mosconi is a brand name in the pool world, e.g., "Mosconi Cup." Today, pool is not so much in the limelight. Using Mosconi's name to shed light to this challenge could benefit many, again, if handled correctly.

Not sure anyone will follow through or take the bull by the horns to magnify this $10,000 challenge to break Mosconi's record, but it could blossom into something beyond our gaze. :yes:

Hear ye, hear ye! Read all about it. First one to record this with proper documentation will enjoy a big payday! Let's get ready to rumble!
 
A "mint condition" Anniversary works for me also. Go ahead Danny, run a 550 and wow the world! It would actually be great for pool to see Mosconi's record broken, even if it's only an exhibition. The fact that it would be on tape would make it memorable. 10K big boy! :smile:


me2, thats fine as long as the slates have not been altered(which is very easy to see)

I just want to see someone break the record, it would be great for pool, look at the HR record when it was broken what that did for baseball,

Jay when i get back to LA ill call you, if you need me, email me please. This could get good and to be a part of it-wow.

Set of Balls.......$149
Pool Table.........$2500
527 Balls...........Priceless


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If this offer is "on the square," I think it is worthy of a press release on the Main Page of AzBilliards, as well as Billiards Digest. Why not invite the international brethren of players to achieve this endeavor! In fact, if handled properly, this could garner mainstream media attention, as well as prospective interested sponsors. IOW, that $10,000 prize could jump up to 20-, 30-, or even $50,000. :wink:

Mosconi is a brand name in the pool world, e.g., "Mosconi Cup." Today, pool is not so much in the limelight. Using Mosconi's name to shed light to this challenge could benefit many, again, if handled correctly.

Not sure anyone will follow through or take the bull by the horns to magnify this $10,000 challenge to break Mosconi's record, but it could blossom into something beyond our gaze. :yes:

Hear ye, hear ye! Read all about it. First one to record this with proper documentation will enjoy a big payday! Let's get ready to rumble!


im 100% solid, its Jays idea-i jumped on it. up to him if he wants me. I hope he does, i think its a great idea. I spoke to others about it 4-5 years ago but we never did anything.
 
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im 100% solid, its Jays idea-i jumped on it. up to him if he wants me. I hope he does, i think its a great idea. I spoke to others about it 4-5 years ago but we never did anything.

I did a job on one of the founders of AOL sometime back. A remark he made has stuck with me throughout the years. He said that he was successful in business because he learned how to delegate to people with expertise. It began when he was in the service, and it stuck with him throughout his career. Today, he is a multi-millionaire. ;)

Lesson learned is to work with others who may have expertise in areas you don't to advance a vision. :cool:

I guess that's why I have one tire in the sand when it comes to finance. I'm chief cook and bottle washer. :embarrassed2:
 
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