Congratulations Shane-world pool masters champ

Hayloads of straw being grasped in this thread.

If it makes anyone feel better: Sure! The US has just as much pool talent as the PI or Taiwan. We are definitely even up with Europe as well.

Everyone can now safely tuck their heads back into sand.
 
I'd say you should distinguish between the Joss Tour Turning Stone events and the other Joss Tour events.

The former are as strong as Euro Tour events, the latter are not.

ok finally a little bit of sense, yes turning stone is a very strong tournament definitely equal to the euro tour. regular events..no chance
 
In the end, the story is this.

Shane is not a world champion yet, and his resume is missing wins at Japan, China and the WPA World 9-ball championships, but his amazing list of titles at the age of 31 makes many of us, myself included, think he has a chance to be the greatest ever. Few in our game's history have achieved so much this early in their career. Shane, who is playing the best pool of his career right now, has a realistic chance to pick up all the major titles missing from his competitive resume. His career is probably just half finished.

... but Shane is so much more than a dominant rotation games player.

1) He has been Derby City Bank Pool Champion

2) He has been Derby City One Pocket Champion and has won the US Open One Pocket title.

3) He has won the US Open 8-ball title.

4) At the 2014 Dragon straight pool event, he beat Archer, Immonen and Eberle, three of the established superstars of the discipline before losing in the final to Darren Appleton.


As far as I'm concerned, Shane is already in the conversation with guys like Efren, Varner, Sigel, Lassiter and Bustamante as far as all-around skills are concerned. Noone knows what the future will bring, but it's both fun and exciting to speculate, and the possibilities for the still young Van Boening are limitless.
 
In the end, the story is this.

Shane is not a world champion yet, and his resume is missing wins at Japan, China and the WPA World 9-ball championships, but his amazing list of titles at the age of 31 makes many of us, myself included, think he has a chance to be the greatest ever.

Nothing is controversial here, and I wholeheartedly agree.

What's remarkable is that there are delusional fools who want to give Shane a world title he's yet to earn, as if that's doing him or anyone else a favor.
 
In the end, the story is this.

Shane is not a world champion yet, and his resume is missing wins at Japan, China and the WPA World 9-ball championships, but his amazing list of titles at the age of 31 makes many of us, myself included, think he has a chance to be the greatest ever. Few in our game's history have achieved so much this early in their career. Shane, who is playing the best pool of his career right now, has a realistic chance to pick up all the major titles missing from his competitive resume. His career is probably just half finished.

... but Shane is so much more than a dominant rotation games player.

1) He has been Derby City Bank Pool Champion

2) He has been Derby City One Pocket Champion and has won the US Open One Pocket title.

3) He has won the US Open 8-ball title.

4) At the 2014 Dragon straight pool event, he beat Archer, Immonen and Eberle, three of the established superstars of the discipline before losing in the final to Darren Appleton.


As far as I'm concerned, Shane is already in the conversation with guys like Efren, Varner, Sigel, Lassiter and Bustamante as far as all-around skills are concerned. Noone knows what the future will bring, but it's both fun and exciting to speculate, and the possibilities for the still young Van Boening are limitless.

nobody isn't saying that if he considers on course he will be a hall of famer no doubt. its the credit he is getting for things not achieved yet which I think frustrates people.

Appleton, playing the game 7 years is a two time word champion 2 US open world cup of pool gold medalist, accu stats all round accu stats 8 ball etc etc actually more accomplished titles than shane but nobody is claiming he is the best player to pick up a cue and rightly so, he has more to win a more years of dominance to get to that, has to up his one pocket game and win a title their to get in that conversation for me but I think credentially right now he is ahead of shane not that he is a better player.

just need the shane club to chill out a bit he gets the credit he is due but not unjust credit
 
I drew a guy named Ralph Souquet

I remember when drawing a European player in a tournament was like a "bye" LoL - when I was in my late 20s I drew a guy named Ralph Souquet and was happy that I had an "easy match" - they sure learned quickly, didn't they. ;)


He seems to be saying there is more action and more tournaments and more money. Which I agree with. I don't read that as saying the level of skill is higher. In the UK, the main cue sport is snooker. And also gambling matches aren't as big in Europe.

He's actually a living example of what I'm talking about. Which American plays at Appleton's level except for Shane? Nobody. There's a big gap between Shane and everyone else in the US. Europe has more people at the very top level. Mika, Niels, etc.
 
nobody isn't saying that if he considers on course he will be a hall of famer no doubt. its the credit he is getting for things not achieved yet which I think frustrates people.

Appleton, playing the game 7 years is a two time word champion 2 US open world cup of pool gold medalist, accu stats all round accu stats 8 ball etc etc actually more accomplished titles than shane but nobody is claiming he is the best player to pick up a cue and rightly so, he has more to win a more years of dominance to get to that, has to up his one pocket game and win a title their to get in that conversation for me but I think credentially right now he is ahead of shane not that he is a better player.

just need the shane club to chill out a bit he gets the credit he is due but not unjust credit

Good post. I, too, think the world of Darren.
 
Me too, but I think Actionplayer has all of us beat.


Eric

lol we're finally getting somewhere.. make no mistake about it I love Darren game probably because I got to see it up close, but even though he is actually a world champion in 3 games 9.10.14.1 and would think 8 is his best game he should be getting the praise but we know svb will get there he is younger and has some travel issues it seems but when he kicks on he will be unstoppable no doubt (already is close)

shift change I think I will be at the derby this year I am a derby virgin so im really excited and hopefully can get in some games. Im not like viffer but I can do anywhere from 50-2000 for a good matchup. hopefully see you some of Azer's in person.
 
or one hole and probably banks too (but in his defense, he hasn't gotten much chance to play those games)..

Jaden

Not too sure about 1P. Darren's had some pretty good finishes in the last few years, but it's like you said, he still hasn't gotten the experience of SVB at those games. Once he does, Shane may have some competition for a while to come.
 
@Buddha Are you implying that the US isn't capable of producing world beaters? Are other countries more genetically gifted than us somehow? I stand by my post that there really isn't much incentive in US right now. We don't have government sponsorship or many youth programs.
 
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