Congratulations Shane-world pool masters champ

This is needlessly complicated. If/when Shane wins a truly world-class event, with dozens of players from Taiwan/Philippines in addition to the usual Euro/American competitors, he'll be considered a world champion. Regardless of the actual, technical title.

For example: the All Japan Championship being held right now.
 
I'd rather sit atop the money list for 6-7 years in a row making over $100K than have 1 World Championship and live out of a box. I know some will say Okay you've played pool for so long and have nothing to show for it, but I know people with a Masters degree that can't get a job with it, and people who have not even attended college and have a well paying job.

I know Shane has morals and dignity, so a world championship title probably means a lot to him, but he also has a countless amount of other titles that very few other pros have, including a 3 peat at the US Open. If those WPA World Champions are so great, how come no one has won it consecutively? And don't tell me it's the format...
 
This is needlessly complicated. If/when Shane wins a truly world-class event, with dozens of players from Taiwan/Philippines in addition to the usual Euro/American competitors, he'll be considered a world champion. Regardless of the actual, technical title.

For example: the All Japan Championship being held right now.

That is true -He will be what i call a generic world champion- but in the record book in 2030 listing 'Past World Champions' his name wont be there unless he wins one. I'm sure he wants his name on that list and so do I.
 
The question answers itself, but just in case you missed it: Because the field is MUCH tougher.

Well since this year's US Open field was so much weaker compared to WC, then everyone that placed 5th place to 1st place in the World 9 Ball should've ran through the weak field at the US Open, but they didn't...
 
The question answers itself, but just in case you missed it: Because the field is MUCH tougher.

So by your rationale, Albin Ouchan is better than Shane van Boening because he was runner up to niels in "a truly world-class event, with dozens of players from Taiwan/Philippines in addition to the usual Euro/American competitors"?

And the us open is now a regional tour stop according to you.

Thanks for clearing that up.
 
That is true -He will be what i call a generic world champion- but in the record book in 2030 listing 'Past World Champions' his name wont be there unless he wins one. I'm sure he wants his name on that list and so do I.

LOL 2030, I can picture Earl and Efren still playing each other, wearing their adult diapers and an oxygen tank hooked up to them breathing through a nasal cannula.
 
Calling someone a world bank pool champion is like calling the NFL Super Bowl champs a world champion. If the game is played little to not at all outside of one country, it's meaningless. Same foes foe one pocket.

Yes so congratulations Shane on your NON-World Pool Masters victory!!!
 
So by your rationale, Albin Ouchan is better than Shane van Boening because he was runner up to niels in "a truly world-class event, with dozens of players from Taiwan/Philippines in addition to the usual Euro/American competitors"?

And the us open is now a regional tour stop according to you.

Lol, relax there buddy.

My response was to the other guy's nonsensical statement about there not being repeat champions in the WPC. So comparing apples to apples, if anyone wins the WPC 3 times in a row: yes, he'll be a greater player than Shane. Winning the US Open 3 times in a row is truly remarkable by any standards, even if the field is weaker than the WPC.

I happen to think Shane might very well be the best player in the world, but the point is it doesn't matter what I think. Until he wins a world championship, he's not ---- in fact ---- a world champion. Frankly I don't know just wth makes people think they can even argue the point in thread after thread. It's not like Shane doesn't compete in world championships...he just haven't won one (yet).
 
So by your rationale, Albin Ouchan is better than Shane van Boening because he was runner up to niels in "a truly world-class event, with dozens of players from Taiwan/Philippines in addition to the usual Euro/American competitors"?

And the us open is now a regional tour stop according to you.

Thanks for clearing that up.

The US Open is nothing more than an APA event that anyone can win
 
The question answers itself, but just in case you missed it: Because the field is MUCH tougher.
How many did Strickland win?

Here is what is on record:
1990 WPA World Pool Championship
1990 WPA World Nine-Ball Championship
1991 WPA World Nine-Ball Championship
1994 PBT World Nine-Ball Championship
2002 WPA World Nine-Ball Championship

That is 5 titles. Do we count 1994? According to the WPA, the 1994 world champion was Okumura Takeshi. However, Earl beat Efren in the 1994 PBT World Championship.

How many titles do we count for Earl? Do we consider 1994 any different from 1999 and 2007?

Plain and simple?
 
Well since this year's US Open field was so much weaker compared to WC, then everyone that placed 5th place to 1st place in the World 9 Ball should've ran through the weak field at the US Open, but they didn't...

So would it make sense if I said Shane is weaker bc he placed 5th in the same WPC?

I won't say that because it would be a moronic thing to say.

The WPC field is tougher, if you disagree you disagree, but don't expect to be taken seriously.
 
How many did Strickland win?

Here is what is on record:
1990 WPA World Pool Championship
1990 WPA World Nine-Ball Championship
1991 WPA World Nine-Ball Championship
1994 PBT World Nine-Ball Championship
2002 WPA World Nine-Ball Championship

That is 5 titles. Do we count 1994? According to the WPA, the 1994 world champion was Okumura Takeshi. However, Earl beat Efren in the 1994 PBT World Championship.

How many titles do we count for Earl? Do we consider 1994 any different from 1999 and 2007?

Plain and simple?

Earl: 4 or 5, makes little difference to me.

Shane: 0.

Just what are we arguing about here?
 
I don't think you get it...

No argument. Other than it raises questions.

If Earl is 4 or 5, then Shane is 0 or 1.

As soon as you mention Shane's name, some of these people go into liberal logic mode, where it doesn't matter what argument you make, Shane isn't the "insert whatever here". Whether it's a world champion, a legitimate world title holder, the best in the world..etc...

Then when they come up with crazy convoluted logic to make their argument and you point that out, you're a Shane nuthugger and YOU'RE the crazy one that goes insane when Shane is brought up, when it's only a reaction to them making their crazy denials.

I mean it is liberal logic 101...Makes no sense but they will cling to it forever...

Just wait until he wins a world championship sanctioned by the WPA, the stuff they will come up with will be laughable.

It will be something to the effect of "The WPA changed membership and that's why Shane won". It will literally be something THAT stupid...

Jaden
 
Shane is 0 or 1 how?
In 1994 there were 2 different events called World Championship. In 2007, there were 2 different events called World Championship. In each year, the WPA only recognized 1. So, I guess if we are saying that Shane won zero, we are also saying that Earl only won 4. If we say Earl won 5, then that logic should apply to Shane in 2007.
 
Logic doesn't apply here...

In 1994 there were 2 different events called World Championship. In 2007, there were 2 different events called World Championship. In each year, the WPA only recognized 1. So, I guess if we are saying that Shane won zero, we are also saying that Earl only won 4. If we say Earl won 5, then that logic should apply to Shane in 2007.

It's Shane, logic doesn't apply here...:rolleyes:

Jaden
 
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