Controlling your adrenaline? Staying calm?

deadstrokesn

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I am never a nervous person...I have stopped playing for a while. (awhile being 6 months) Was wondering what are the best routes to go into learning the mental side of pool. Like I said I'm never nervous no matter the pressure or money..its always seems like I know I'm capable of anything and I get excited that I'm able to win..I was told its the adrenaline rush that messes me up..I try breathing and thinking calm down and play at my right rhythm, but i find myself getting excited that I play good enough to beat great players and play jam up myself..I hope this is understandable ..Any advice please on where to go or how to control this excitedness ?
 
I suffer from this as well.. I don't get nervous I just get that surge of adrenaline. Usually when I slow down my pace and my back stroke it helps.


I am never a nervous person...I have stopped playing for a while. (awhile being 6 months) Was wondering what are the best routes to go into learning the mental side of pool. Like I said I'm never nervous no matter the pressure or money..its always seems like I know I'm capable of anything and I get excited that I'm able to win..I was told its the adrenaline rush that messes me up..I try breathing and thinking calm down and play at my right rhythm, but i find myself getting excited that I play good enough to beat great players and play jam up myself..I hope this is understandable ..Any advice please on where to go or how to control this excitedness ?
 
I wish I had a rock-solid answer for you, but other than breathing, and mental discipline, it's tough to come up with other ways to ride that wave. The most common thing I see here is that you just need to put yourself into those situations more often to "train" yourself how to manage it. That's easier said that done though.

The Inner Game of Tennis and Pleasure of Small Motions are both great books on working on/maintaining the mental game. It's been a while since I've read them so I can't remember if they address this exact thing or not (which is probably a sign I should read them again). But they are typically regarded as the best material on the subject.

Recently, I found myself in your situation, where I was (suprisingly for me) not nervous, but had a high level of adrenaline. I was worried it would interfere with my game and I switched from soda to water as soon as I realized it, but about 15 minutes later the adrenaline was mostly gone and my "in the zone/dead stroke" game went with it unfortunately. So, that's not the trick to ride it out either. heh oops.
 
Its quite odd for adrenaline to hinder a person in sport. Pool is one of those games though when it can completely ruin the ability to think straight. People can offer advice, but its unlikely it will really help you out as much as seeing an instructor that deals with the mental side. CJ Wiley and Lee Brett would be the first two instructors I'd go to. Both have experience at the highest level and plenty of experience with giving lessons. Lee Brett is doing a tour of the country still I believe. Send him a message on here and ask if he's dropping by your area. Definitely give CJ a message too and see if you can arrange a lesson or two.

That's about the best advice I can give you without telling you to give it time and eventually you will discover a way to let the adrenaline help you.
 
I am never a nervous person...I have stopped playing for a while. (awhile being 6 months) Was wondering what are the best routes to go into learning the mental side of pool. Like I said I'm never nervous no matter the pressure or money..its always seems like I know I'm capable of anything and I get excited that I'm able to win..I was told its the adrenaline rush that messes me up..I try breathing and thinking calm down and play at my right rhythm, but i find myself getting excited that I play good enough to beat great players and play jam up myself..I hope this is understandable ..Any advice please on where to go or how to control this excitedness ?

Heart racing?
Hands sweating?
Inability to think Cleary?
Mild confusion?
If you have these symptoms its a panic attack.
 
I am never a nervous person...I have stopped playing for a while. (awhile being 6 months) Was wondering what are the best routes to go into learning the mental side of pool. Like I said I'm never nervous no matter the pressure or money..its always seems like I know I'm capable of anything and I get excited that I'm able to win..I was told its the adrenaline rush that messes me up..I try breathing and thinking calm down and play at my right rhythm, but i find myself getting excited that I play good enough to beat great players and play jam up myself..I hope this is understandable ..Any advice please on where to go or how to control this excitedness ?
Since you get nervous as often as you say you do I'd be willing to bet that you have some unhealthy personality traits that could be improved on.

I think a good sports pshy. Could help you identify your beliefs that are at the core of your issues and once you challenge and change these you should find that you can play more relaxed.
 
I used to have full fledged panic attacks when shooting with a lot of pressure. Hell I'd feel the pressure if I was just playing someone for fun who I considered on another level from me. But I wasn't as good then.

The biggest thing that's helped with my nerves is getting better. I have a lot of confidence when shooting now and I think that enables me to harness that energy. I feel at ease and a mild euphoria when I feel that pressure now.
 
Do you practice by yourself? If not, maybe some alone time where your not hyper might carry over to when your playing someone. Pre shot routine or thoughts might help. What are you doing or thinking when your opponent is playing?
 
It's really very simple. Stop being afraid to lose. Accept it. Accept the fact there's a 50% chance you're going to lose and you'll stop being afraid. You only get nervous when you anticipate things. Either you want to win or you want to show people you can play well. Forget all of that. Just get in there and enjoy the fact that you don't always play your best BUT you don't always play your worst, either. In sum, enjoy the ride and stop thinking about where you're going.
 
Routine, routine, disciplined routine

Have a routine. Block everything out and go through your 1, 2 3's.

Evaluate, breathe, commit to the shot, get down on it. Then...

My weak playing self, when I'm down on it, I use 2 words I repeat over and over in my head.

Usually it's "smooth and through".

In a golf swing for me it's "left-side through"

In sex it's OMG. :eek:

Ok, seriously, get a mantra when you're @ to pull the trigger, repeat it - have nothing else in your mind - it purges the doubt - it blocks out the anxiety better than anything I know of.

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It's really very simple. Stop being afraid to lose. Accept it. Accept the fact there's a 50% chance you're going to lose and you'll stop being afraid. You only get nervous when you anticipate things. Either you want to win or you want to show people you can play well. Forget all of that. Just get in there and enjoy the fact that you don't always play your best BUT you don't always play your worst, either. In sum, enjoy the ride and stop thinking about where you're going.


Great wisdom Jude. When golfer Brad Faxon, then widley regarded as the best putter on the planet was asked "Why are you such a great putter?" He replied "because I am not afraid to miss"

Fear conquered.
 
A shot of bourbon or vodka and a beer usually settles my nerves (nothing more than that) and helps me relax. Not the best way but everybody has their own way of handling pressure. Ultimately it only comes with experience. Pros and top amateurs have loads of pressure experience and they only got it by playing under pressure situations. Its a right of passage I guess...
 
Great wisdom Jude. When golfer Brad Faxon, then widley regarded as the best putter on the planet was asked "Why are you such a great putter?" He replied "because I am not afraid to miss"

Fear conquered.

Yeah, that's another thing I often say. When I'm faced with a shot I know I can miss, I accept it. I'm not perfect. I have moments when I am but those moments are fleeting. It's amazing how your stroke straightens-out all on its own the moment you just let go of the fear. I just say to myself, "If it goes in, I keep shooting. If it doesn't, I sit."

Personally, I love pool so much when I'm feeling in the groove. When those tough shots come-up and I'm dialed-in, I'll say to myself, "Time to bust out the talent!" I can't put this any other way but you have to learn to enjoy the game for what it is and it isn't always about winning. In fact, I can say with certainty that half the people lose all the time.
 
Be a neutral observer, the key is not in the "thinking," it's in the "non thinking"

I am never a nervous person...I have stopped playing for a while. (awhile being 6 months) Was wondering what are the best routes to go into learning the mental side of pool. Like I said I'm never nervous no matter the pressure or money..its always seems like I know I'm capable of anything and I get excited that I'm able to win..I was told its the adrenaline rush that messes me up..I try breathing and thinking calm down and play at my right rhythm, but i find myself getting excited that I play good enough to beat great players and play jam up myself..I hope this is understandable ..Any advice please on where to go or how to control this excitedness ?

The conscious mind is at the mercy (for the most part) of the subconscious mind. Under the level of "thinking" lurks our beliefs, our concepts and our self defense mechanisms that deal with security and social interaction....it also controls the issued you are having and there's really no way to stop it by "figuring it out" because the problem centers in the minds, the "subconscious, and the conscious".

We have on the average of 30k to 50,000 thoughts a day between the two "minds"....this leads to all kinds of possible behaviours, emotions/feelings, and even delusions.....it's very often from a balance issue, your mental "self" is out of balance.

The way to improve you conscious contact with your mental self and the "inner world" is to address the problem at it's source.....connecting the subconscious mind to the conscious mind in a useful, more effective way. This requires periods of "non thinking"......it's somewhat of a paradox - "to improve our thinking we must not think"

This is done through meditation and prayer (which is a form of meditation).....it doesn't matter if someone is atheist, agnostic or a believer (it's spirituality, not religion) , they must at least be willing to believe in a Power higher than their conscious thinking to make any progress. Once someone is "willing to believe" then the door is opened to the process of higher thinking.

I recommend ANAPANA Meditation***, it's a simple way to meditate, where the person observes their breathing at the source, and their thinking....."observing" the thoughts is very important in this process......and this is much easier said than done.

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“The Method (How To): Sit cross-legged or on a chair in a quiet room. (No background music – silence is the utmost important). Close your eyes softly or keep them half closed

Place your left hand with palm facing up on your lap and place your right hand (palm up) on top of your left palm. Bring your attention to the upper lip or below the nostrils. Observe the breathing in and breathing out in the fixed area of the upper lip or below the nostrils Maintain your attention in this area and gently bring your awareness back to this area if you are distracted.

NOTE: If you are not able to maintain your awareness in the fixed area, you can count one and one while breathing in, two and two while breathing out until ten and ten and start again. Or follow your breathing in and out.

If you are too overwhelmed take ten deep breaths (conscious breathing) to calm your mind and bring your awareness back to the fixed area. Make sure to return to regular breathing after the conscious breathing.

Be a neutral observer. Notice the temperature of the breaths, sensations below the nostrils or upper lip, and the rhythm while simply observing them.

The Frequency and Duration: Week 1 – 15 minute meditation – 2 times per day (morning and evening)

Week 2 - 30 minute meditation -2 times per day (morning and evening)

Week 3 – 1 hour meditation – 2 times per day (morning and evening)”

Read more about Anapana Sati Buddhist Meditation for beginners - (How To Meditate) on:
http://buddhist-meditation-techniqu...ource=INK&utm_medium=copy&utm_campaign=share&
 
Cleary makes me laugh, not feel nervous. ;)

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Bruce Lee understood ........

The conscious mind is at the mercy (for the most part) of the subconscious mind. Under the level of "thinking" lurks our beliefs, our concepts and our self defense mechanisms that deal with security and social interaction....it also controls any issues we are having and there's no way to stop it by "figuring it out" because the problem centers in the minds, the "subconscious, and the conscious".

We have on the average of 30k to 50,000 thoughts a day between the two "minds"....this leads to all kinds of possible behaviours, emotions/feelings, and even delusions.....it's very often from a balance issue, your mental "self" is out of balance.

The way to improve you conscious contact with your mental self and the "inner world" is to address the problem at it's source.....connecting the subconscious mind to the conscious mind in a useful, more effective way. This requires periods of "non thinking"......it's somewhat of a paradox - "to improve our thinking we must not think"

This is done through meditation and prayer (which is a form of meditation).....it doesn't matter if someone is atheist, agnostic or a believer (it's spirituality, not religion) , they must at least be willing to believe in a Power higher than their conscious thinking to make any progress. Once someone is "willing to believe" then the door is opened to the process of higher thinking.

I recommend ANAPANA Meditation***, it's a simple way to meditate, where the person observes their breathing at the source, their very own thoughts....."observing" the thoughts is very important in this process....of course this is much easier said than done, the more we think about something the less chance we have of actually doing it.

'The Game is the Inner Teacher'

Read more about Anapana Sati Buddhist Meditation for beginners - (How To Meditate) on:
http://buddhist-meditation-technique...ampaign=share&

Bruce Lee understood ........

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Breathe in deep breaths. Hold. Let out slowly. That slows down your adrenaline.

And take more strokes, that helps the pressure.
 
I think CJ Wiley is hitting on the core problem, and how to address it..

I practiced much the same thing when I was playing years ago.. I will express my way in a slightly less "Zen" approach.

1. The core problem, as CJ noted, is too much "active thinking". The part of your mind that thinks in words does not play well with the part of your brain that controls execution. So, to this end, when it is "execution time", you MUST quiet the active part of your mind.

2. Focusing for long periods of time can be both mentally and physically (eyes) very tiring. If you don't "practice" this part of your game, you will get mentally tired late in a match, or late in a tournament.And you will lose.

A lot of top players played so much when they were younger, and continued to play, that they ironed out these kinks, and achieved the appropriate level of long term focus.

For us working stiffs, we must find the methods of practicing these things that is more efficient than "hitting a million balls."


So.. To the method I used that corresponds closely to CJ's post..

a. NEVER think any negative thought while sitting in your chair, walking around the table, or after your opponent lucks in a shot or gets a lucky safe. NEVER say anything negative. In your "active mind", ALWAYS use positive thoughts. I.e. Think "I'm going to put the cue ball THERE, 'cuz I'm a bad@zz.".... Do NOT think: "DON'T hit this shot too hard."

Reason: The subconcious is always listening to your active thoughts. The subconcious mind is the "doer". It does what you tell it to do. Funny thing is, it does not really understand negative input. So, when you think "DON'T go too far with the CB", it either drops the DON'T, and does what it feels you want it to, or it becomes confused and you get random results that rarely coincide with your active intentions.

b. It takes some force of will, but in your practice, "wipe your mind clean" and then go down into your stance. You've been feeding your subconcious positive thoughts, but when execution time comes, you want no last second stray thoughts to interfere with the stroke. This makes sure you are 100% committed to the shot

This part is where some form of meditation comes in. For me, I combined meditation, focus, and some form of eye exercise all into one. I used to sit down, try to "calm" my mind, and focus on something distant enough to make me try hard to focus on it, but close enough to make out some detail if I tried hard. Make every attempt to block out every other external stimulus outside of the object you are focusing on.

This combination of focus, but with a calm mind gives me practice both at blanking my mind when going into my stance, as well as the focus needed for my subconcious mind to perform at it's optimum.

The time dedicated to focusing on the distant object also builds up the ability for the eyes and mind to focus for long periods of time, which is a must if you want to perform on the 2nd/3rd day of the tournament.


So, in recap:

Positive mindset breeds confidence. This IS something you can practice ALL THE TIME.

Blank mind dropping into stance breeds TOTAL commitment to the shot.

Practice mental and physical (eye) focus to the extent that you can shut out the world outside of that which you focus on. You must be able to do this for a number of minutes at a time, even though it is really only required when you drop into your stance. Build it up enough, and you can maintain this level of focus for an entire match, even when sititng in the chair.

THIS is what allows prolonged periods of "dead stroke". After all... What IS dead stroke? It is a period where you fall into a "trance" where you make everything, get perfect position, and rarely remember much about particular shots. This is because on each particular shot, you are concentrating only on that which is needed to make the ball, with no external input to distract you.

Short Bus Russ...... C player.
 
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