When most amateurs cannot replicate what a pro does, we deem it mystical and magic. The wrong route, played the shot wrong and got lucky and the best "he miscued and still made it." Some of us amateurs know that stroke though and can spot the inconsistencies between peoples actions and statements. I'm one of those few. Dr Dave at this point is a professional knocker. The shot Corey was trying to play was just a simple two rail 'z' shot. He just way over stroked the draw.
Corey Deuel's famous draw shot, and other options
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When most amateurs cannot replicate what a pro does, we deem it mystical and magic. The wrong route, played the shot wrong and got lucky and the best "he miscued and still made it." Some of us amateurs know that stroke though and can spot the inconsistencies between peoples actions and statements. I'm one of those few. Dr Dave at this point is a professional knocker. The shot Corey was trying to play was just a simple two rail 'z' shot. He just way over stroked the draw.
This shot is a variation of the Jimmy Moore shot where he draws to the rail and makes
whitey run down the rail.
The new cloth and a follow-through that keeps the tip on the cue ball a fraction longer
gives the delayed draw.
Usually, only 3-cushion conditions make this shot possible at that distance.
...what Corey was actually trying to do was to get the cue ball past the side pocket...
...which gives you a better angle on the five ball...
...he said it got away on him...he wasn't trying to hit it that good.
One hell of a hit
When Dave puts up the image blurb of where he's striking the cue ball. Then when he strokes it and doesn't hit where he says he is going to. I find that as asinine as possible for what his intentions are.
A little bit of right helps....a little bit of left hurts.
The shot can be done low center...if you got Jimmy Moore's stroke.
I'm not sure if what you just posted is English.
Anyways, thanks Dr. Dave, I learned something from the other positional routes. Great video and nice table!
Fun fact: The match where Corey performed the shot being discussed was edited by a young Cleary at that time.
Does anybody know the year and tournament of the match. I wanted to include this info in the video description, but I couldn't find it anywhere.
Thanks,
Dave
Jealous of the new table. Good shot.
Must be nice to be so knowledgeable that you can get into Corey's head and tell us exactly what he was trying to do. If it's such a simple shot, why don't you post a video of you shooting the shot "correctly" (according to you). 
Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
The original by Corey is super awesome.
But even more so is the shot before the draw shot.
https://youtu.be/VVDrZK6VpuU
But even more so is the shot before the draw shot.
https://youtu.be/VVDrZK6VpuU
That was in the Mosconi Cup, maybe 10 years ago. I agree, more phenomenal. However, he didn't get out that time!
Your grammar is incorrect here, thought you might like to know...
Must be nice to be so knowledgeable that you can get into Corey's head and tell us exactly what he was trying to do. If it's such a simple shot, why don't you post a video of you shooting the shot "correctly" (according to you).
Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
Haha, I don't think he plays as well or knows as much as he thinks he does.
Tried to argue the wrong shot in this thread and just wouldn't give up.
It's pretty entertaining.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=373115
lets have a look see at your stroke big boy
I'm pretty sure everyone finds you as asinine as asinine could possibly be. Why don't you post up your video with "MAX draw?" Dr. Dave is only contributing positive things to this community, giving insight and wisdom out of his passion for the game and helping others improve and here you are knocking his stroke?
Lmao I get the impression you're an overweight bald man that rides a loud, piece of shit Harley Davidson, and thinks you're really cool doing so, but deep down have self esteem issues because you were never good enough for your hardass dad. So you come on here and criticize others from behind a computer to try and make your sorry self feel better about what little you've accomplished.
Am I close? If I am I wouldn't expect you to admit to it but if I'm not...well that's just the impression you're giving.
Anyways thanks for the video dr Dave. The table looks awesome btw, congrats on the new installment, looks like fun. And I'm sorry to hear about your spill, I wish you a speedy and full recovery.
Thank you to everybody for the positive comments. I appreciate it.
I was still hoping to see what others think about which shot option would be the best (most accurate and consistent, with the best chances for a good outcome) for most good players.
Thanks again,
Dave
Nice video dr dave.
As careful as you are, its 1000% impossible to get the exact ball positions Corey had. The same goes for anyone duplicating an "exact shot" from a video or even an overhead picture. I wonder how much of a difference a 1" variation in position would make the shot? Nevertheless, the video is great
Certainly Corey also knew all of the options Dr Dave shot. I too wonder what was going through his head.
I believe in one of the TAR pre-match interviews, Corey was asked about this shot, and said it was a fluke, and not the way he intended it. I don't have that link or know where it is, and I could very well be remembering it incorrectly.
As careful as you are, its 1000% impossible to get the exact ball positions Corey had. The same goes for anyone duplicating an "exact shot" from a video or even an overhead picture. I wonder how much of a difference a 1" variation in position would make the shot? Nevertheless, the video is great
Certainly Corey also knew all of the options Dr Dave shot. I too wonder what was going through his head.
I believe in one of the TAR pre-match interviews, Corey was asked about this shot, and said it was a fluke, and not the way he intended it. I don't have that link or know where it is, and I could very well be remembering it incorrectly.
I know there is a clip out there on it somewhere. If I have time I'll see if I can find it. I definitely feel it was a more difficult draw shot then this one but both are very impressive.