coring handle question

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hello.. I am about to core a tiger maple handle with maple handlewood. I dont want to add weight to the cue..since the forearm will be solid ebony.
my question is.. Im turning the handlewood down to .75.. can I turn the whole thing down in one or 2 days?.. or do I have to treat my coring materiel the same as say a forearm? where you turn it down within the span of a few months? if so... how much should I take off...and how long should I wait in between passes?. i had the thought to also purchase some 1" laminated shaft wood...turn that down to .75 and use that as my coring materiel...what do you guys think? thanks
 
seven said:
hello.. I am about to core a tiger maple handle with maple handlewood. I dont want to add weight to the cue..since the forearm will be solid ebony.
my question is.. Im turning the handlewood down to .75.. can I turn the whole thing down in one or 2 days?.. or do I have to treat my coring materiel the same as say a forearm? where you turn it down within the span of a few months? if so... how much should I take off...and how long should I wait in between passes?. i had the thought to also purchase some 1" laminated shaft wood...turn that down to .75 and use that as my coring materiel...what do you guys think? thanks
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WHY are you coring the Maple? I use Fiddleback Maple all of the time & have no problems. Maybe you should be corng the Ebony, to reduce the weight...JER
 
BLACKHEARTCUES said:
WHY are you coring the Maple? I use Fiddleback Maple all of the time & have no problems. Maybe you should be corng the Ebony, to reduce the weight...JER
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My thoughts exactly.;)
 
BLACKHEARTCUES said:
WHY are you coring the Maple? I use Fiddleback Maple all of the time & have no problems. Maybe you should be corng the Ebony, to reduce the weight...JER
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I was under the impression that all burl type woods were unstable.. wouldnt tiger maple fall under the same category?

This is my first cue im making.. its for me.. I prefer a heavy cue.. about 22 to 23 oz. thats why I'm not coring the ebony :)
 
I am building several cues right now that have birdseye, or curly handles. I have never cored one of these, and have never had any problems.
Burls like Amboyna, and Thuya are very light and are not that structurally sound, These are the types of wood to core for the pourpose of striength.
Chris
 
seven said:
so would tiger maple be considered curls?
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Yes.
Some would say the tree bending during high winds created those curls.
I don't see why using a tight-grained hard rock maple as core inside tiger maple can be bad. It'll weigh more, more stable and hit better imo.
I'd core the ebony too. Take out the weight and twist from it.
 
JoeyInCali said:
Yes.
Some would say the tree bending during high winds created those curls.
I don't see why using a tight-grained hard rock maple as core inside tiger maple can be bad. It'll weigh more, more stable and hit better imo.
I'd core the ebony too. Take out the weight and twist from it.
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thats what I thought.. I guess this can be an ongoing debate. "to core..or not to core" I think I will core.. I will feel safer.. although..Im not coring the ebony.. I want my cue heavy :)
 
As someone stated above...don't forget laminated wood for cores...this may be the best option...just my opinion.;)
 
Curly maple is a LOT more stable than birds-eye. If it's properly cut, and stress-relieved, (and in short pieces) coring it is not "necessary". The main reason I've cored it, is weight. Also, a full length butt benefits from coring, they can be prone to moving.
I've seen birsd-eye forearms break right in half several times. Not so with curly.
 
"Curls are from trees bending in high winds",wow I would love to hear your theory on how birdseye maple is formed.Maybe from birds crashing into the trees while trying to fly in high winds.Smoke another one buddy.
 
masonh said:
"Curls are from trees bending in high winds",wow I would love to hear your theory on how birdseye maple is formed.Maybe from birds crashing into the trees while trying to fly in high winds.Smoke another one buddy.
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Mason, read that post again.
I SAID SOME would say the tree bending from high winds...

The forest is not flat. Some trees grow on a slope. The side where the tree bends the most or gets stressed-out due to high winds SUPPOSEDLY have the most curls.
I didn't say coring it is bad or not. Personally, I'd core it with straight-grain b/c it's very light. I have bored 5 inches deep on some of mine and used rosewood up there as well. .875 by 1 inch then 3/4 by 4 deep.
Birdseyes are created by fungus, disease and/or branches that never came in my BELIEF. Don't care to know really why they are there. I just know I have a lot of nice birdseyes.
Check the one on the right.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/joeyincali/stix3-1.jpg
I got more of those too.
 
TellsItLikeItIs said:
Fact is, Universities all over the country have studied this and have yet to come up with an irrefutable answer (the curl in Maple). The under developed branch theory (Birdseyes in Maple) sounds the most plausible, but even that hasn't been proven beyond doubt. Fungus and/or disease has been ruled out though. Do a google search on it, if you have a week or so to spare that is.
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Yep. I have posted the same information before. I have worked in forestry research since 1991. I will say it again, if it was known that it was a type of fungus that was causing birdseye, there would be studies funded and entire plantations of hard maple would exist with all of the stems innoculated with the fungus. Everyone can have their own theory, but the cause is not a fungus.

Birdseyes that are formed from swirling burls are caused by a disease, but that is a different beast.

Kelly
 
TellsItLikeItIs said:
Was that the same "SOMEONE" that told you about the wind "stressing" the maple trees ;)

edit: Was also wondering, do ya need to use stabilizer on the "bigfoot" Maple? Or does the uric acid take care of it for ya?
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The one Big Foot j@$Ke-0~~ on doesn't need no stinking stabilizer.:eek:
 
JoeyInCali said:
I heard the birdeseye maple trees big foot pizzed on, had more eyes.
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:D :D :D :D :D Nice one...

Big foot is making a huge comeback...he has his own jerky commercials...

You guys reckon that is why bocote has a wee bit of yellow in it?? :eek: :rolleyes: :eek:

Kelly
 
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