Could this be the Future of Pool?

CocoboloCowboy said:
Brits are strange bunch, the drink warm beer, go nuts over darts, scockrer, and snooker. Their Pro Soccer players, Pro Dart Thrower, and Soccer players all make respectable money.

Because of fans, sponsorship, and broadcast revenues.

We might learn something from drinking warm beer.🤭
Click to expand...
Those are intrinsically woven into their culture, much like baseball & football are to Americans.
 
Pool has already had this issue years back with Bonus Ball and some of Mark Griffin's events. Bonus Ball locked up players every weekend for months during their run and those players couldn't play in other big events. I'm guessing the new Golf tour may end up as Bonus Ball but the LIV promoters do have mighty deep pockets.
 
dardusm said:
Pool has already had this issue years back with Bonus Ball and some of Mark Griffin's events. Bonus Ball locked up players every weekend for months during their run and those players couldn't play in other big events. I'm guessing the new Golf tour may end up as Bonus Ball but the LIV promoters do have mighty deep pockets.
Click to expand...


I think Mark Griffin is one of those who would fight the idea of a single organization scantioning all Pool in USA Amature, and Professional with just one set of rules.

Pool people seem to like fuding with one another, work against one another.

Team work, and working in one direction for good of Pool is a goofy idea.
 
CocoboloCowboy said:
Pool people seem to like fuding with one another, work against one another.

Team work, and working in one direction for good of Pool is a goofy idea.
Click to expand...
All the pool promoters as well as leagues etc are businesses, not charities. They are there to do the best for themselves, not somebody else, and as such they are competitors by definition and necessity. While it can sometimes benefit all the competing businesses in a sector to work together, this is pretty rarely the case outside of occasional and very well defined small scale collaborations. I've seen no compelling evidence that it would benefit all the pool organizations to actively work together, and they all obviously feel the same evidenced by their mostly not working together.

It never ceases to amaze me why people think pool promoters or leagues should actively work together when their whole purpose as a business is to out compete the other ones, not help them. You never hear people as a matter of reflex saying Walmart and Target should work together. You never hear people saying this grocery store and that grocery store should work together. Only in pool. It's silly.
 
Last edited:
Poolplaya9 said:
All the pool promoters as well as leagues etc are businesses, not charities. They are there to do the best for themselves, not somebody else, and as such they are competitors by definition and necessity. While it can sometimes benefit all the competing businesses in a sector to work together, this is pretty rarely the case outside of occasional and very well defined small scale collaborations. I've seen no compelling evidence that it would benefit all the pool organizations to actively work together, and they all obviously feel the same evidenced by their mostly not working together.

It never ceases to amaze me why people think pool promoters or leagues should actively work together when their whole purpose as a business is to out compete the other ones, not help them. You never hear people as a matter of reflex saying Walmart and Target should work together. You never hear people saying this grocery store and that grocery store should work together. Only in pool. It's silly.
Click to expand...
That's an exceptional post. Well said!
 
Poolplaya9 said:
All the pool promoters as well as leagues etc are businesses, not charities. They are there to do the best for themselves, not somebody else, and as such they are competitors by definition and necessity. While it can sometimes benefit all the competing businesses in a sector to work together, this is pretty rarely the case outside of occasional and very well defined small scale collaborations. I've seen no compelling evidence that it would benefit all the pool organizations to actively work together, and they all obviously feel the same evidenced by their mostly not working together.

It never ceases to amaze me why people think pool promoters or leagues should actively work together when their whole purpose as a business is to out compete the other ones, not help them. You never hear people as a matter of reflex saying Walmart and Target should work together. You never hear people saying this grocery store and that grocery store should work together. Only in pool. It's silly.
Click to expand...

Partially correct, but even the local Bar owners (Pool Bars) with in a few miles of each other did not do any networking. Talking Bach and forth.

Good example was competitive events on say Saturday, both 7’s & underbar box9 ball, then complain as both have poor turn out. Talking might have forge agreement for different Saturdays.

These same people would sit on handicaps meeting commenter but would not try, and work on business efforts. Benefiting both bars.

Business is competitive, but the day come when a competitor who is friendly might help, or visa versa.

It called scratching one another’s back, helping, maybe loaning a needed item.
 
Last edited:
Daniel Berger and Max Homa are playing in the Open…I wonder how they would be received by the Saudis….
…..they’re Jews

Corey Pavin would probably have a mixed feelings reception…he was born a Jew but converted to Christianity.
 
remiller186 said:
I’m sure it won’t matter to the oil giants of the Middle East, but I’d prefer not to support a league funded by a country with woman’s rights issues. I have daughters. Anything less than 100% equality is unacceptable.
Click to expand...

You're going to possibly find yourself in foreign country by the end of this month, without ever leaving home.
 
BeiberLvr said:
www.espn.com

PGA Tour suspends LIV golfers from all events

The PGA Tour has suspended the 17 current and former members -- including Phil Mickelson, Dustin Johnson and Sergio Garcia -- who are taking part in the first LIV Golf tournament.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

There's a new golf tour (LIV) that has taken some players from the PGA, who just announced they will suspending those players.

I guess the equivalent to that would be if Matchroom starting suspending players for playing in Predator events.

Personally I think players should have options, and it should be up to the promoters to get players to play in their events.
Click to expand...
Two sides to everything.. pga sent years Building the tour and prize money from corporations...Saudis show up with a bag of money from selling the world $115 a barrel oil..trying to buy goodwill..it's an all about me world.. people will believe anything,just look at the U.S.A.
 
sjm said:
We're 100% aligned on our feelings about this new tour. Where we disagree is whether the PGA tour would be stronger with these players that defected. OK to agree to disagree here.
Click to expand...
There is more talent out there than there are playing spots on tour..new guys get a chance to play
 
BeiberLvr said:
www.espn.com

PGA Tour suspends LIV golfers from all events

The PGA Tour has suspended the 17 current and former members -- including Phil Mickelson, Dustin Johnson and Sergio Garcia -- who are taking part in the first LIV Golf tournament.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

There's a new golf tour (LIV) that has taken some players from the PGA, who just announced they will suspending those players.

I guess the equivalent to that would be if Matchroom starting suspending players for playing in Predator events.

Personally I think players should have options, and it should be up to the promoters to get players to play in their events.
Click to expand...


Professional pool is thriving now thanks to no pool association that claims players as their own exclusive members.
 
Renegade_56 said:
You can forget any meaningful sponsorship for pool events as long as they are played in bars. The only companies really interested in pool are the manufacturers of billiard supplies and alcoholic beverage manufacturers. The pool rooms already have the major market of people buying billiard supplies and all the bars already have alcoholic beverages. Marketing pool to pool players is singing to the choir.
Click to expand...
Anheuser Bush, Ford Motor Cars, etc. that sponsor the NFL and other pro sports will sponsor professional pool tournaments in the near future now that the tournaments have been severed from local pool leagues at bars.

Pro tournaments have grown in large numbers in the last 4 years with sponsors responding with big purse payouts.
 
Chicagoplayer said:
Hmm…
I disagree.

A better comparison would be when Bonus Ball came along and the pro’s followed the money and damaged what Greg Sullivan was trying to accomplish.
Greg was hurt personally and professionally.

The current head of the house of Saud, is Mohammad Bin Salman, who jailed over 100 members of his own family and jumped the line of succession to take power illegitimately.

MBS ordered the killing of a Saudi Arabian Washington Post journalist Jamal Khoshogghi. They sent a hit squad that attacked, dismembered and burned the pieces of Khoshogghi’s body.

Saudi Arabia is throwing money at Golf in order to “Sportswash” their image.

You cannot buy integrity, and those players that play in the LIV Event are pariahs.
Click to expand...
Here's another ''named'' mushroom that just popped Back, into the fray...Commissioner Don Mackey
 
Everybody has scheduling problems. You probably recall Diamond Billiards tried to start a Derby City like tournament in July. After two years it folded because scheduling limited the number of players they could attract. (Word on the street, anyway.)
 
It's funny that people think Pools' link to Bar rooms is what's holding sponsorships back from the game. I just watched a CornHole (I don't know if it's spelled as one word or two) competition on ESPN with major sponsors and a first place prize of $100,000. Cornhole. A game usually played with a beer in one hand and a bean bag in the other.
For some reason the American Cornhole Association has been able to sell this particularly ridiculous game (IMHO) to sponsors and the sports media. Pool needs an organization that can influence both. Matchroom is the best we have at this point in time. We may not se coverage on American TV, but in Europe SkySports airs Matchrooms' events.
My 2 cents!
 
Chasv said:
It's funny that people think Pools' link to Bar rooms is what's holding sponsorships back from the game. I just watched a CornHole (I don't know if it's spelled as one word or two) competition on ESPN with major sponsors and a first place prize of $100,000. Cornhole. A game usually played with a beer in one hand and a bean bag in the other.
For some reason the American Cornhole Association has been able to sell this particularly ridiculous game (IMHO) to sponsors and the sports media. Pool needs an organization that can influence both. Matchroom is the best we have at this point in time. We may not se coverage on American TV, but in Europe SkySports airs Matchrooms' events.
My 2 cents!
Click to expand...
was this cornhole event at 1:30 in the morning in a bar with 30 people in it?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top