What's the difference between a "Courtland wrap" and a white with green speck Irish linen wrap?
Thanks in advance,
-Matt
Thanks in advance,
-Matt
Courtland v. Irish Linen
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> The old original Cortland is no longer made,and the people that have it horde it. The newer linen may actually be a higher quality product,but the best thing about the Cortland was the feel,it just presses smoother and had a different texture than the new stuff just hasn't matched yet. Tommy D.
Tommy-D said:> I don't know that for sure,hence the MIGHT,LOL. Unless Cortland was made with some proprietary technique,I would think that Blue Mountain or Hurlbert has had long enough to figure it out. If I'm wrong here,I'm sure someone will step in. Tommy D.
Genuine Irish Linen is made from Flax. This material is very similer to cotton but I believe it is supposed to be much stronger. At any rate I believe that I read that Blue Mountain and Hurlebert are made from cotton. I, myself, prefer Blue Mountain over Hurlebert but others, I'm sure, would prefer the Hurlebert. Truthfully, the brand makes little difference, the way it is pressed and finished gives it it's feel. Many believe since Cortland was used in the past that it is the best. Just because it was adapted years ago to pool cues certainly doesn't automatically make it the best.
Dick
Wasn't Cortland originally made for fishing?
irish linen was used for fishing,,,,,,,,,,,,i believe that the green speck indicated the weight line,,,,,,,,,,,,6 strans of white and one of green, wherein each strand broke at aprox 3 pounds of pull,,,,,,,therefore it was 21 pound test line,,,,,,,,,someone correct me if im wrong
later on it was replaced with dacron for trolling line,,,,,,,,,great stuff because it doesnt have the memory of monofiliment,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so not all that old fishing line on grandpas pole is linen. if it is its probibly rotten
later on it was replaced with dacron for trolling line,,,,,,,,,great stuff because it doesnt have the memory of monofiliment,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so not all that old fishing line on grandpas pole is linen. if it is its probibly rotten
billfishhead said:
Yeah, with It used as fishing line, it would rot, Espeacially if left wet on the reel. I believe good ol grapa use to stretch the line out in the sun after using It, to dry the line well in between & before storing. I had some reels left with some on It, and the line was shot. Could'nt even pull It off the spool without it breaking over and over.
Greg
That's almost as bad as using Titlists for bridge sticks.Cue Crazy said:
JoeyInCali said:That's almost as bad as using Titlists for bridge sticks.
Yep. Personally I don't see how anyone fished inshore before mono came about, must have just been alot more fish, so they were hungry! hungry! Hungry!, and had'nt gotton wise to man fishing them yet.The dacron is some tuff stuff though, but where I'm at It's really only good for offshore trolling. Inshore It's really alittle too visable in the water, and most fish are smart enough to leave It be. There may be a few dumb ones that still let their stomach do the talking though
I don't even like using steel liters, but sometimes you have to because some fish will try to cut you off on the oyester beds at the mouths of the feeder creeks where the fishing is good.Guess I'm alittle off topic here, but funny story, and semi related- The stuff is stiff compared to mono. I use to teach My brother how to fish when he was young, We would just fish Of the dock in front of the house with dead shrimp because pin fish will tear it up, so you get alot of bites, and It was good practice for him at that age. He was bad about snatching too hard when he got a bite. Well, when He got alittle older he got into some of the dacron, and spooled his reel with it. No good fish would touch It, but the pin fish would still bite. I'm sitting there with My pole in the water beside him on the dock, then see him snatch that pole up out of the corner of My eye almost falling backwards at the same time, and reel It in, I look over, and their is nothing but a set of fish lips on his hook
He had snatched the fish's lips right of It's face with that dacron.
that how stiff It was. Most fishes lips will rip before that happens, so that's kind of rare to pull a set of lips up I suppose. I've fished most of My life, and never happened to me.
MattRDavis said:
Matt - it's spelled "Cortland". Here's the company who made it out of Cortland, New York:
http://www.cortlandline.com/
The stuff they were selling in the 1960's and 1970's is very similar to the Irish linen being used today - it feels a little softer. They also made multi colors beginning in the late 1960's, white with black spec being the first.
Chris
Cortland
Fly fishing being my other major obsession, I can report that Cortland is still very much in business. In the days when braided linen was still in use, the strength (pound-test) was described in terms of the number of threads in the braid: three-thread, four-thread, etc. Don't know which was (is) most popular for wraps.
Fly fishing being my other major obsession, I can report that Cortland is still very much in business. In the days when braided linen was still in use, the strength (pound-test) was described in terms of the number of threads in the braid: three-thread, four-thread, etc. Don't know which was (is) most popular for wraps.
braided line is still in use in heavy salt water trolling too, but mono is much cheaper.
ive got cortland braided line, but now its dacron, not linen
ive got cortland braided line, but now its dacron, not linen
id like to ammend my last post,,,,,,,,,,,,micron not dacron
dacron is hollow, micron isnt, therefore is smaller in diameter
got a couple of boxes of it i use for backing in salt water fly fishing.9 to 12 wt lines
dacron is hollow, micron isnt, therefore is smaller in diameter
got a couple of boxes of it i use for backing in salt water fly fishing.9 to 12 wt lines
while we are on the topic:
will someone volunteer info on penn and cuttyhunk lines that were used as well?
i am given to understand that the thread count 9 with lb. test of 27 was the cortland linen line used for cues. i have a wooden spool of abercrombie and fitch linen- #9 thread/ 50 lea. line is offwhite with blue specks. i also have a Bimini 50 yd. wet test 45 lb.; 18(something-can't read). don't want to sell either.
will someone volunteer info on penn and cuttyhunk lines that were used as well?
i am given to understand that the thread count 9 with lb. test of 27 was the cortland linen line used for cues. i have a wooden spool of abercrombie and fitch linen- #9 thread/ 50 lea. line is offwhite with blue specks. i also have a Bimini 50 yd. wet test 45 lb.; 18(something-can't read). don't want to sell either.
cuttyhunk has been out of production for many years, as for penn i dont remember them marketing line, however the penn reels are the same basic designs that were used 40 years ago. the longevity of lack of updated designs are why the reels are so popular. you can always find parts
PoolSleuth
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JoeyInCali said:
There is a Cortland Company in Cortland NY that make Fishing Line, and Also GREAT FLY LINES...
cortland linen
a gentleman with cortland line company told me not too long ago they could make the linen line, just don't have raw materials. he said something about dissecting a sample; i didn't follow through with a sample. maybe a group committing to purchase could open doors? i'm in for that if at all reasonable.
a gentleman with cortland line company told me not too long ago they could make the linen line, just don't have raw materials. he said something about dissecting a sample; i didn't follow through with a sample. maybe a group committing to purchase could open doors? i'm in for that if at all reasonable.
thnx, Chris already pointed that out.PoolSleuth said:There is a Cortland Company in Cortland NY that make Fishing Line, and Also GREAT FLY LINES...
Matt - it's spelled "Cortland". Here's the company who made it out of Cortland, New York:
http://www.cortlandline.com/
The stuff they were selling in the 1960's and 1970's is very similar to the Irish linen being used today - it feels a little softer. They also made multi colors beginning in the late 1960's, white with black spec being the first.
Chris
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