Most every player turns into their shot lines. That is a pivot like it or not. it easy to observe Shane's sweep.
Dennis told me personally that he did use CTE depending on shot and he also clearly stated that EFREN uses CTE.....
Stan Shuffett
CTE for Top USA pros
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Most every player turns into their shot lines. That is a pivot like it or not. it easy to observe Shane's sweep.
Dennis told me personally that he did use CTE depending on shot and he also clearly stated that EFREN uses CTE.....
Stan Shuffett
Why would I doubt that you called someone?
What I was asking was what was their evaluation of your system... assuming they could stop laughing long enough.
Lou Figueroa
I have left you entirely alone and I see that you can not leave me alone. Just think karma, Big Boy!
Stan Shuffett
Come on man, this is crazy talk. EVERY player in the world will make some sort of turn into EVERY shot. Why? Because from the moment they stand after execution the current shot, to the final stance of the next shot, that is a curved path. Their body must turn at some point in that path.
Corey has been one of the most vocal pros that aiming systems don't work. Now, you are using him and saying that he is using CTE? Come on?
*Edit I'm sorry I somehow read Corey in your post. Don't know how I did that. The rest of the post still stands.
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I generally left you alone for months at a time when you were in the Aiming Forum. Here in the Main Forum -- where you insist on posting about aiming -- it's open season
And trust me, I don't worry about karma when it comes to contesting the wild things you are advocating (and selling). My karma will come from saving one solitary pool playing soul from going down the path to CTE perdition.
Lou Figueroa
Exactly. Every other pool player on Earth twists or pivots from one side or the other into shooting position as they approach the table or walk around the table from one shot to the next. The ones that walk directly into the shot are probably in the minority.
Lou Figueroa
During my last private communication with Corey he clearly stated that he had a way, his way, a system, of aiming...........
Lots of players use a form of CTE and they are totally unaware it......Corey could easily fit in that category as well.
Stan Shuffett
TheThaiger
Banned
How is Lou a cheat?
I generally left you alone for months at a time when you were in the Aiming Forum. Here in the Main Forum -- where you insist on posting about aiming -- it's open season
And trust me, I don't worry about karma when it comes to contesting the wild things you are advocating (and selling). My karma will come from saving one solitary pool playing soul from going down the path to CTE perdition.
Lou Figueroa
Not much to say......but what the actual truth is is that CTE is extremely misunderstood.
There is zero doubt in my mind that if I showed you the basic nature of CTE, you'd think way differently about it.
I would do that here and it would greatly help the cause but posters like you and a few others prevent me from doing that.......there is no doubt you are stifling my presentation of CTE on this site.. Good job!
Having said that I am still willing to show you a little about the real nature of CTE when I am in your area.
Have a great day, Lou!
GoldenFlash
Banned
Excellent Mr. Shuffett.
I am glad to see you back here again and giving it back to these knockers just like they dish it out to you.
I was, for many years, a pretty good shortstop, but after a year of studying and working with your CTE method, my game has jumped way up.
It had me so confused at first that I thought I'd NEVER grasp what was being taught. I am a slow learner, but once I catch on, look out....I'm off and running.
I think what these knockers miss is that just because the shooter can find a lead pipe cinch to the shot line with CTE does NOT mean he will hit that spot every time when shooting. He will still miss due to various other things, stance, a poor hit, etc. etc. and most of all (for me) pure laziness in doing the steps required. A result of getting just a little too cocky with the knowledge and hurrying things.
I have a standard process wherein once I get down on the shot it takes me exactly 5 seconds for my brain to complete processing the information (I count this off mentally and then I pull the trigger.) If I take that 5 seconds, most of the time the ball goes in the pocket although being human, they don't go in also.
With CTE, I'd guess I've got about a 80% overall "make the shot" success rating. That drops to about 50% with those long ones where he has you wedged on the rail, or in the pocket opening, and that money ball is wayyyy down there at the other end at a 45degree perception. As far as 'pooching' a 15 or 30 degree...well that just ain't gonna' happen anymore unless there's a blunder with too much spin or velocity of hit.
I am very grateful for your revealing the CTE method for the aiming aspect of the game.
It's nice to know that after the shot, whether or not it succeeds or fails, that at least you started out being dead on that shot line without ANY GUESSWORK.
Lou plays in my room. I have bought the DVDs yet can't figure the pivot out. Come on out and help us understand.
Can I ask why it seems like you must include every variable of aiming that "might" have a component of CTE, with your grouping of secret CTE users?
I am no saying anything about your system. Not at all.
But why not just limit it to those who SAY they use your system?
Pretty soon, it seems like, if you use a backswing before you stroke, well...CTEers use a backswing before they stroke, so therefore, they must secretly be using CTE without knowing it.
Or, pool players use their eyes...well, CTEers use their eyes, so if they are both using their eyes to aim, they must secretly be using CTE.
That is what it sounds like when you say something about a player who HASN'T endorsed your system, and try to tie it in because of some alleged component of it.
Again, this isn't a criticism of your system, but IS a criticism of how you are tying various players and their alleged aiming techniques, into the "secretly using/not knowing they are using" CTE group.
To many, this just sounds a little far fetched.
You would do better by sticking with people who actually have vocalized support of your system, rather then to infer that they do, because you think they are using it.
I'd kind of bet that most of the people who debate with you, actually bought one or both of your dvd's to check out the information for themselves. They are not going into this debate blindly.
No one is preventing you from sharing the information. You have 2 dvd, countless youtube videos, hundreds of posts about it, 20 years of posts by other members describing it, yet we still don't know what it is, and how to reproduce it.
I'm sorry to go here, but it sounds more like a religion than anything else. You have the people who believe in God and/or Jesus, and then those who don't. There is zero proof that god exists. But those who believe in him, that does not matter. Its just the way it is, I guess.
The most important thing with my DVDS is to learn the visuals and the pivot directions. It is all there!
In the meantime, over the past 5 1/2 years I have never let up on learning every single visual/physical detail possible directly related to the system......why? Because I want my understandings to be known....That is one reason I have 82 YouTube videos in place.
stan Shuffett
I generally left you alone for months at a time when you were in the Aiming Forum. Here in the Main Forum -- where you insist on posting about aiming -- it's open season
And trust me, I don't worry about karma when it comes to contesting the wild things you are advocating (and selling). My karma will come from saving one solitary pool playing soul from going down the path to CTE perdition.
Lou Figueroa
Can you explain exactly why you think CTE is ridiculous? Stan has made multiple posts, taught multiple ppl (including pros) and made multiple videos as well as DVDs explaining how it works. I think you could extend the same.
I am very aware that it doesn't work for everyone. I actually own the first Pro1 video and have leant it out to ppl who said they couldn't get it. I'm not sure if that is because of poor stroke, eye patterns or anything else because I never saw them try it in person.
I bought Stan's DVD as an experiment, just like I buy any other pool DVD as learning this game is just as much about what doesn't work as it is about what works. Thomas Edison didn't fail at making a light bulb over 700 times. He learned how not to make a light bulb over 700 times.
I took what I learned to the table and applied it. Sighting the ball like in the DVD came natural as that's how I did before. Getting down on the CB was completely unnatural and the pivot was obviously unnatural, but I made ball after ball.
I will say that I don't always use CTE. I haven't had enough time to dedicate to playing to make it part of my natural play style, but I certainly won't say it doesn't work.
Can you explain how I can watch a DVD, change my shot routine, do entirely new things and make ball after ball? I'm not talking about just simple shots, I'm talking about making 9/9 shots with the CB and OB on the spots using something for the very first time?
I just figured that since Stan took the time to make a DVD explaining how to make those shots using that method that you could explain to me why I shouldn't of made any of those shots.
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It's like Butch Harmon has said, 'I may not be able to build a Championship Swing... but If I'm not very careful, I know I can ruin one.'.
I bought the first DVD:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=2871644&postcount=77
I was given a copy of the 2nd DVD and a couple of folks begged me to review it also but I declined. It would have been "piling on."
Lou Figueroa
In addition to my review of the first DVD I have also written several long posts explaining my objections. But so many CTE threads have been deleted and shot into the ozone I can no longer find the ones I would link to or repost and, at the moment, I don't feel like recreating them.
Lou Figueroa