CTE PRO ONE Contrast with Quarters System

If CTE is such hot shit......how come your name ain't on the AZ Billiards Top Ten Money Leader Board. Hell you aint evn in the top 20.

You are so quick to challenge others yet do nothing yourself in real competition.

And you are where on that list?
 
You are just throwing a smokescreen out there to fuzz up what CTE is.
I've asked in every way I know how for clear answers and explanations, but it seems nobody among CTE's users can (or care to) provide them. If there's a smoke screen "fuzzing up" CTE, it's you guys who create it with your unwillingness (inability?) to answer simple, direct questions about it.

I think there are good things about CTE, but how is anybody unfamiliar with it to know what they are?

pj
chgo
 
I've asked in every way I know how for clear answers and explanations, but it seems nobody among CTE's users can (or care to) provide them. If there's a smoke screen "fuzzing up" CTE, it's you guys who create it with your unwillingness (inability?) to answer simple, direct questions about it.

I think there are good things about CTE, but how is anybody unfamiliar with it to know what they are?

pj
chgo

Continue your little charade....that is your sole purpose in all of this.

Plenty get CTE and there will be plenty more to get it and you will still be in your huddle with your cohorts wishing CTE away.

The tipping point will come! :)

Stan Shuffett
 
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If CTE is such hot shit......how come your name ain't on the AZ Billiards Top Ten Money Leader Board. Hell you aint evn in the top 20.

You are so quick to challenge others yet do nothing yourself in real competition.
well duckie......with this posting you disqualified yourself in such a big manner.....rofl.

Stan doesn t need anyway someoene to speak for him at all. everyone with A BIT brain and a healthy knowledge about the american pool scene knows about his playing skills.

and so do i......on the other side of the pond.

if you ever plan to play vs stan....
let me know. even with handicap...... i m thankful to bet a nice amount.

that wouldnt be betting ....that would be stealing......


lmao.....still have tears in my eyes from laughing...... go on and you ll get somewhen a clown award.
 
well duckie......with this posting you disqualified yourself in such a big manner.....rofl.

Stan doesn t need anyway someoene to speak for him at all. everyone with A BIT brain and a healthy knowledge about the american pool scene knows about his playing skills.

and so do i......on the other side of the pond.

if you ever plan to play vs stan....
let me know. even with handicap...... i m thankful to bet a nice amount.

that wouldnt be betting ....that would be stealing......


lmao.....still have tears in my eyes from laughing...... go on and you ll get somewhen a clown award.
I love reading a post from a great player and coach who is an English-as-a-second-language (ESL) poster who is basically calling someone a CLOWN as best as he can.

Amazing how identifying a clown is universal in any language, in any country.

Great post, Ingo.
 
I love reading a post from a great player and coach who is an English-as-a-second-language (ESL) poster who is basically calling someone a CLOWN as best as he can.

Amazing how identifying a clown is universal in any language, in any country.

Great post, Ingo.
well dave,
think this is the first time that i got somehow "personal" on this forum. but "he s" really a guy who was able to piss me off somehow.....and laughing like n idiot at the same time.

usually also already a trophy worth?.....well maybe... ☺

hope you re doin great pal.
 
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OK, your turn. Be as forthcoming with specifics about how to "acquire the visual" with CTE.

pj
chgo

I get the visuals with CTE after having spent many hours on the phone with Hal as well as many hours at his house in person. Going to Stan's home to get personal lessons with him gave more specifics. Last but not least was the dvds.

Your options are the last two since Hal is gone. Try it. You'll get the specifics to acquire the visuals and then won't have to be the biggest CTE troll detractor in history, or you'll continue to be what you are just because Pat Johnson is your name and CTE bashing is your game.
 
Stop saying everyone. Im grateful for Stans hard work, butI I didnt spend 8 months learning cte to be part of the dumbest feud in history.

I dont care if they've asked the same questions over and over. As someone who had to work really hard to be able to use CTE, from an OBJECTIVE standpoint I've yet to read an adequate and satisfying response to any of these questions that doesnt require intense inside knowledge and study.

If you cant explain whatever concept you are defending in a way that a child could understand, you should spend less time being defensive and more time trying to figure out a better way of explaining it.

If you're just going to spend all your efforts spouting the same bullshit excuses we're never going to get anywhere. The only person I see doing any work is Stan, who despite all the naysayers, still puts out video after video in an attempt to help people.

Stop giving out information that only people who already know CTE will understand, and trying to hold it up as an adequate explanation for the rest of the general public.

It's not a requirement to be a mechanic for someone to be interested in buying a car.

There are plenty of topics that even the smartest of children wouldn't understand no matter how it was explained.
 
Jon,

No offense intended as this is not an easy subject but...

That's ridiculous. The balls are static & the centers are positioned. There is only one line from the center of one ball to the 'edge' of one side of the other ball. You either look down that line or you look at it from the side. Since the vision center is higher you actually look at it on the vertical plane of that line or you look at it from askew to that line.

If one moves off of the vertical plane of that line a new sight line is established but it is no longer on the CTE line. If one moves far enough one could establish a new line of center cue ball to the center or edge of the ghost ball or nearly any part of the ghost ball. If one moves in the other direction that new sight line would to the OB from the 'edge' inward toward center until it cross over to the other side of the ball.

How many times has it been said that the edge to x line fixes one in the only position to see both lines simultaneously?

The only way one can move & see a different CTE line would be to also see a new & different ETX line & that is only possible if X, the A, B, & C are not points or lines but instead are a group of multiple points or lines.

If that is the case then they must be selected subjectively as to which one to use.

Again, no offense intended with the ridiculous comment. But it seems that every advocate only repeats what they have been told & what they think that they are doing but with no real critical thinking as to what is actually possible & what is impossible.

Best,
Rick

You are pathetic, and not even worth the time it would take me to point out how ridiculously idiotic your post is, as well as every other post you make regarding CTE

Despite being told numerous times to stay out of these discussions, you have no idea how to keep your grubby uninformed fingers off the keyboard.

Do not bother responding as you are now on IGNORE.

Do not send me one of your 500 word PMs. It will be deleted without being opened.
 
That is why I like Ducky around. He makes me laugh with every post. :D



well dave,
think this is the first time that i got somehow "personal" on this forum. but "he s" really a guy who was able to piss me off somehow.....and laughing like n idiot at the same time.

usually also already a trophy worth?.....well maybe... ☺

hope you re doin great pal.
 
Funny how there are plenty of people that can see the visuals just fine.

I guess some of us were gifted with the elusive CTE gene.


No doubt there are some that can see the visuals.

BUT there are plenty that cannot because they see the balls differently. They stand at the table differently, at different distances from the table, their heads are turned differently, they are of different heights, they get into final shooting position differently ending up at different heights, angles, and head/eye positions. And there is a wide array of capabilities when it comes to percieving spatial relationships.

One size does not fit all and that's the problem with this system. Stan is trying to say his template is universal when somewhat obviously it is not.

Lou Figueroa
 
No doubt there are some that can see the visuals.

BUT there are plenty that cannot because they see the balls differently. They stand at the table differently, at different distances from the table, their heads are turned differently, they are of different heights, they get into final shooting position differently ending up at different heights, angles, and head/eye positions. And there is a wide array of capabilities when it comes to percieving spatial relationships.

One size does not fit all and that's the problem with this system. Stan is trying to say his template is universal when somewhat obviously it is not.

Lou Figueroa

CTE can essentially work for anyone. The rules and principles for sight, human vision, are the same for all of us. The rules do not vary from person to person and there is great research that backs this up.

Stan Shuffett
 
Stop saying everyone. Im grateful for Stans hard work, butI I didnt spend 8 months learning cte to be part of the dumbest feud in history.

I dont care if they've asked the same questions over and over. As someone who had to work really hard to be able to use CTE, from an OBJECTIVE standpoint I've yet to read an adequate and satisfying response to any of these questions that doesnt require intense inside knowledge and study.

If you cant explain whatever concept you are defending in a way that a child could understand, you should spend less time being defensive and more time trying to figure out a better way of explaining it.

If you're just going to spend all your efforts spouting the same bullshit excuses we're never going to get anywhere. The only person I see doing any work is Stan, who despite all the naysayers, still puts out video after video in an attempt to help people.

Stop giving out information that only people who already know CTE will understand, and trying to hold it up as an adequate explanation for the rest of the general public.

It's not a requirement to be a mechanic for someone to be interested in buying a car.

Since you now know CTE, maybe you can put into words what they are asking for? To me, it is simply following the words given and you get the results you ask for. Some are not willing to follow those words, but would rather pick at those words. Not hard to tell who is really trying to learn it, and who isn't.
 
You are pathetic, and not even worth the time it would take me to point out how ridiculously idiotic your post is, as well as every other post you make regarding CTE

Despite being told numerous times to stay out of these discussions, you have no idea how to keep your grubby uninformed fingers off the keyboard.

Do not bother responding as you are now on IGNORE.

Do not send me one of your 500 word PMs. It will be deleted without being opened.

Got it.

You're of the dime store book variety vs the technical manual type.

No problem.

May God Bless You & Yours,
 
I've asked in every way I know how for clear answers and explanations, but it seems nobody among CTE's users can (or care to) provide them. If there's a smoke screen "fuzzing up" CTE, it's you guys who create it with your unwillingness (inability?) to answer simple, direct questions about it.

I think there are good things about CTE, but how is anybody unfamiliar with it to know what they are?

pj
chgo

Pat, Pat, Pat, PLEASE don't start sounding like Rick! You have been a positive member of this forum in many ways. Yet, in this aspect, meaning CTE, you sound exactly like him.:frown::eek:

You say no one will give you the answers. Baloney. You have been given the answers several times, you just choose to completely ignore them. You have been told to go watch the free videos if you don't want to view the DVD again. Yet, you refuse to do so, and just claim you get no answers.

You got the answers, you just don't like the answers you got. So, please stop claiming you didn't get the answers. All that is is disingenuous and misleading to others, and a weak attempt to make someone else look bad. You are better than that.

Correcting mistakes is one thing. You have gone way beyond that with CTE. Stick to correcting the tons of false info that are on here about many topics. Not that anyone on here really listens anyways, but hopefully a few still do. Stick to principles, not trying to be some wordsmith like Rick tries to do. It only makes him look foolish, and the same will happen to anyone that does that.
 
If CTE is such hot shit......how come your name ain't on the AZ Billiards Top Ten Money Leader Board. Hell you aint evn in the top 20.

You are so quick to challenge others yet do nothing yourself in real competition.

Did you even think for ONE second before you hit submit? Stan placed in the money in the U.S. Open in the last few years. (don't remember just what year he played in it) He has many videos out there for all to see.

You have a couple of videos of one shot out there. Yet you tout ghostball like it's the only way to aim, and the best way to aim. What have YOU done, and where is YOUR name if ghost ball is so great?

Or, maybe it's just the obvious, his name isn't in the top 20 just because he has better things to do than play in a week long tournament across the country and globe for pennies. ;)
 
No doubt there are some that can see the visuals.

BUT there are plenty that cannot because they see the balls differently. They stand at the table differently, at different distances from the table, their heads are turned differently, they are of different heights, they get into final shooting position differently ending up at different heights, angles, and head/eye positions. And there is a wide array of capabilities when it comes to percieving spatial relationships.

One size does not fit all and that's the problem with this system. Stan is trying to say his template is universal when somewhat obviously it is not.

Lou Figueroa

Lou, you are very close to understanding, but choose not to. The big key, if one can call it that, is that you HAVE to let go of the previous way you aimed. This is something totally different! If you try and get into the CTE way of standing and visualizing by utilizing your previous experience, it won't work. It does stand alone.

Many are not willing to let go of years of experience to try something new. And, I understand that. But, if one really wants to learn CTE, then on the PRACTICE table, all they have to do is let go, and follow the directions to the letter. (something else few seem able to do, not implying that you can't)
 
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