Thanks for helping.
I remember early CTE aiming ascribing points A, B, C besides "E" Edge.
This was very useful but the infinite points in between must be visualized or developed by adjusting the pivot.
Be well
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Thanks for helping.
I remember early CTE aiming ascribing points A, B, C besides "E" Edge.
This was very useful but the infinite points in between must be visualized or developed by adjusting the pivot.
Be well
INFINITE? LMAO! That's a helluva big ball. The points in between are pure fractional aiming, not CTE and no concern.
What happens when there's no manual pivot?
Normal size ball with small, teeny tiny points of aim.
Some will never get it because they think in 2D when they go to the table or try to diagram it. This morning I went to my Virtual Pool Game (looks like 3D) and tried to get the visuals. It did not work at all. At the pool hall yesterday I went through some of the drills from DVD2. I kept hitting the target too thick. Why? I felt confident that the visual was correct. Then, after realizing that I naturally bend into full stance with a left visual sweep (I am left handed) I began to pocket balls on the drills like never before - basically I was over pivoting.
On a straight-in shot on the 9 foot table (Diamond Pro) with the eight ball 5 diamonds away and the cue ball, unfortunately, 1/4" off the rail I was able to pocket the ball. I cannot describe how elated I have been with CTE. My confidence has skyrocketed to the point that I am focusing much more on cue ball control and the order of pocketing. I have a long way to go with that.
Another shot was one that was a narrow angle to the side pocket. It was the only shot available through the traffic of the layout after the break. The pockets are 4-1/2" wide and at that angle to the side pocket there was probably about 3" available. I hit it softly with the straightest stroke I could muster. It gently rolled towards the pocket and fell in. I've never had this much fun playing pool. I need to improve the speed at which I obtain the visuals - but really - I've only been at it for a few weeks. Thankfully, I tend to be a visual person by nature.
On a more relevant point - based on your passed posts I suspect that your comment is simply baiting. If not - buy the DVD, open your mind, and try the shots at a table.
I will take the bait and use it as an opportunity to express my thanks to Stan Shuffett for his hard work in developing and sharing his knowledge of this fascinating way of looking at the relationship between cue ball, object ball, and yes - the table.
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There really aren't an infinite number of in between points. For instance, a spot shot to a 4 1/2" corner pocket has to be hit on a "contact patch" about 1/16" wide (allowing for pocket slop). There are about 25 of those in 1/4 of the ball's circumference, including the 5 fractional cuts (full, 3/4, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8), so only 20 of them are in between (4-5 between each pair of fractional cuts).
A shot half that distance from the pocket has half as many "contact patches" to account for - twice that distance, twice as many - etc.
But there are in betweeners, and they do have to be "adjusted" for.
pj
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"….On a more relevant point - based on your passed posts I suspect that your comment is simply baiting. If not - buy the DVD, open your mind, and try the shots at a table. …."
Allen
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I don't bait like a Troll. I offer what little I know for free as does PJ. I don't make money selling concepts and diagrams on pool. AZ Billiards allows me to freely share what I think and diagram . For me, it's entertainment and not a job to make money.
Be well.
Allen
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I don't bait like a Troll. I offer what little I know for free as does PJ. I don't make money selling concepts and diagrams on pool. AZ Billiards allows me to freely share what I think and diagram . For me, it's entertainment and not a job to make money.
Be well.
Like I said, you're describing just about any and every variety of fractional aiming system with varying tiny points of aim as well as a contact point.
NOT applicable to CTE at all.
Are points A, B, C and Edge applicable points in CTE anymore?
Hal Houle never charged a penny for lessons over the phone or in person to anyone. No money made, just giving away his knowledge for free.
Stan's interest in CTE was never about money either. He IS a certified instructor with various organizations. How many certified instructors have you seen giving lessons to any Tom, Dick, and Harry for free?
How many instructors have put out the total number of youtube videos for free as he has and the Truth Series coming in the future?
His DVDs had a price and the book will also but it's pretty much to cover the cost of production. He should charge for his time which has been 10 years.
What would 10 years come out to even on a minimum wage scale?
No amount of money can really make up for what he sacrificed in his personal life for 10 years with his wife, his children, and his own personal activities he would like to have done but didn't.
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Sure they are but not all the in between "infinite" stuff you keep referring to in regular fractions. The A, B, and C are also not contact points as a 15, 30, or 45 would be in fractions.
I can see where this is going. Down the same 20 year old rabbit hole all over again. Time to say "Adios", "Hasta La Vista", "Bon Voyage", "Aloha", "I'm OUTTA HERE"!
Have fun.
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Fractions aren't contact points either - they're aimpoints. The contact points they target are halfway between them and center CB. The contact points between those "reference" contact points are in betweeners that have to be adjusted to. You can learn to hit these "tweeners" pretty consistently by practicing and remembering the "perceptions" that match with them.
pj
chgo
^ What he said. :thumbup2:
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Like posting on AZB, Aiming conversation and not talking about aiming.
You are absolutely 100% correct.
I retracted my post.
You have my permission and encouragement to do the same to my part of the post that appears in your post.
And that takes care of that.
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I actually agree with much of this post. Stan loves what he is doing and has a large following. A minor nit pick, though. I'm calling BS on the part in bold. Stan didn't sacrifice a single thing because someone was holding a gun to his head at the pool table. He sacrificed those other things in life (whatever those may be) because he preferred to be shooting pool and teaching it. Stan has accomplished much in the pool world but please, let's not make him a martyr.
If you don't want to contribute to the bickering then just don't. You are a newcomer so it is understandable that you feel that anyone with a different experience re CTE than yours must then be a troll or ignorant or just doing it wrong. CTE works for some people and not for others. (Heck, based on what you said in one of your posts it didn't work for you either until you improved your stroke). I would ignore all that and just keep doing what you are doing.
It is hard to learn from your progress but it is interesting to see in any case. It isn't particularly interesting to know that you pocketed a difficult shot. It is more interesting to know how you did shooting it 10 times or 20 times.
Sounds to me like something in your new way or playing is providing you with a nice straight delivery of the cue. Once you have that the rest is pretty easy, IMO.
What in the hell do you know about Stan? Have you ever communicated with him outside of this forum on a personal level like I do regularly? Would he give you the time day if you called him?
It started with attacks on Hal by the Fabulous Two on RSB and has continued here with the same ones that now include you and a number of others. This post of yours is another veiled slam on him that is uncalled for and completely off the mark!
When Stan learned about the existence of CTE and came into contact with Hal and myself to explore it deeper, Hal told him going further would end up more of a "curse" than any type of positive.
Little did Stan know how true those words would be along with the actual experience of being called a "Snake Oil Salesman", a "Scammer", and inferred to as a "scumbag" on many occasions.
Stan isn't playing pool on the table for enjoyment or competition. All he's been doing for the last decade along with having flame war battles on here is making free youtube videos to illustrate what the dynamics of it are about as well as DVDs and now the book.
He wants to GET IT RIGHT, SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT, and CLEAR HIS NAME which has been denigrated from all the attackers.
Not a pretty picture for him or those who know what kind of super person he is in life.
He IS under the gun to get it completed by those BI*CHING on here in threads about "when is the book coming out"? There's a time frame when he wants all of this to the publisher and behind him.
But the main thing is he just wants to be free of all of the work behind the scenes to LIVE a normal life. Hal was 100% correct. It has been a curse.
I know what other interests he has besides pool. He has no time. Pool is NOT the all encompassing part of his activities and enjoyment.
And YOU, DAN WHITE, have no damn business or reason to be shooting your unknowing mouth off with this slamming post when you have as little knowledge about Stan as you do with CTE itself.
What is going to happen in future when the book and Truth Series does come out?
It could be and will be iron clad in the description on how it works and is applied.
But YOU and the other four or five who have been at it for 20 years will be right back attempting to pick it apart sentence by sentence, word by word, and punctuation mark by punctuation mark just as it's always been.
NOTHING will stop your negative destinations. NOTHING!
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You're kidding, right? You are telling me that Stan really didn't want to produce tons of videos and teach all those people in his home? He got no satisfaction out of that? If that is the case then why did he encourage his kid to pick up the game?
Riiight. I don't understand why you are even making this point about Stan. The guy obviously has a passion and he is spending his time enjoying it. I really don't think Stan is standing at the tables, yes tables, IN HIS house in beautiful man cave pool rooms with awards and beautiful pictures because he is trying to prove his naysayers wrong. Please just stop with the martyr talk. The guy decided, with his own free will, to write an enormous book. Anyone who has written a book will tell you it is grueling. Maybe that is what Stan wants to get behind him.
It's not a slamming post. It was a criticism of something you said about Stan, not a criticism of Stan himself. Please read more carefully and give these things some thought before blurting out like this.
Nobody has sacrificed anything here. Everyone has responsibilities and limited time and has to CHOOSE what their priorities are. Raising a child with special needs requires sacrifice from a parent who never could have predicted or wanted such a situation. Choosing to spend as much time as necessary to help that child develop as normally as possible is a sacrifice. Choosing to play pool over taking a vacation to Yosemite isn't a sacrifice.
in spite of the fact that i know this post will accomplish nothing (ITS TOO BAD )
but
jews dont go into christian places of worship to say jesus christ was not the messiah (according to their beliefs )..just an anology
so patrick/dan/lou etc
LEAVE THESE GUYS ALONE
you have pestered them for 20 plus years
why keep beating your heads against a wall??
remember I AM NOT A CTE USER
but its really aggravating that all discussions turn in to a flame war
jmho
but
jews dont go into christian places of worship to say jesus christ was not the messiah (according to their beliefs )..just an anology
so patrick/dan/lou etc
LEAVE THESE GUYS ALONE
you have pestered them for 20 plus years
why keep beating your heads against a wall??
remember I AM NOT A CTE USER
but its really aggravating that all discussions turn in to a flame war
jmho
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