Cue Collectors Conversation

[Chopdoc]

Doc, you see things way too clearly, and incidently the Joss cues like yours are very hot right now.
Now go out and get a ****ing J.O.B.

The old JOSS is hot? I guess that's true, they sure are hot to me. I have seen a couple of others that I would love to own. Of course, they would never mean as much to me as the one I have owned since 1985....

About the possibility of buying another...yeah....I know....go out and get a ****ing J.O.B.! LOL! :grin:

My wife seems to agree with you...but today is my day off....and I am sticking to that...unless of course an offer rolls in.... :smile:


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[measureman]

Gee Ron, that has to be the most you've said on AZ in 7-years combined...:smile:

Collecting cues has so many different angles and ways that people collect, it is an interesting conversation.
The value and potential valve does have something to do with it, and I'm sure a lot of people collect for that reason.
I started collecting several different cues that I wanted to try or liked, and never sold any of them.
Then I bought or traded for multiple cues that I liked (or thought the deal was too good to pass up), never sold any of those, so now I'm a collector.
As far as values are concerned, some are worth less and some are worth more.
Other than a select few group of cuemakers, values are sometimes based on what is hot at the time, or what style of cue is hot at the time.
A good example is the ebony-ivory "Tuxedo" cues that was so hot 6 or 7 years ago.
There are many cues that are deemed collectible, just because they are old or made from a Titlist blank, but very few are valuable.


In that I now live close to Felt, and I'm driving, I'll bring an ebony nose South West in.
What do you want to trade...:indecisive:

Peace
Ted

I'll trade a Lucasi and a Bic lighter.

 

[Kid Dynomite]

Many cues are gone forever. They are overseas or in collections of millionaires that would never liquidate them. The collections that have come to market have fetched 40 cents on the dollar. Some dealer or flippers swoop in and mark them retail for top dollar.

Cue investing is a tough game and many cues have gone down in value for various reasons. The generation interested in Rambo cues have come and gone and their market value with it! The szamboti and bushka generation have just finished peaking. Scruggs and mak cues generation is just beginning to surge.

Just my thoughts!
Kd


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[cuesblues]

I'll trade a Lucasi and a Bic lighter.

The trade would be a no brainer if you were keeping the internationally sought after Lucasi all original.
You should of sent it back to Wing Ling in China for the ferrule repair instead of Dr. Doug

I may reconsider if the Bic lighter is fully functional, with no obvious signs of usage.
Please send pics & specs of the Bic, I already know what the Lucasi looks like.

 

[Chopdoc]

Alas, I have a BIC lighter, but no Lucasi, original or otherwise...so I guess I am SOL......



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[prewarhero]

Cue collecting vs investing

The idea of cues (certain cues to be sure) only going up in value is speculation, especially when you look at it in relative terms and compared to other alternatives. I invest a portion of my portfolio in gold for two reasons, one it is a good hedge against inflation and two, it traditionally has some
negative correlation the stock market. But like gold, cues to don't pay interest, earn money, or have any ability to be valued based on anything other than what a buyer is willing to pay at the exact moment the seller wishes to sell.

I would be a cue collector and not an investor. I would collect the cues I want to own without thought to future value. Take Gus or bushkas, how much have they increased over the last 30 years. A ton! The greater the previous return, the less growth you should expect moving forward. To wit, add inflationary adjustments less an expected alternative ROI from other hard assets, I would take my chances elsewhere, especially since other hard assets can be leveraged. Not really feasible with cues.

I don't know if this helps anyone but, just like my other more expensive hobby- wine, I collect (and drink) but have assigned myself to not approach it as an investment or a way to make money.

 

[Chopdoc]

The idea of cues (certain cues to be sure) only going up in value is speculation, especially when you look at it in relative terms and compared to other alternatives. I invest a portion of my portfolio in gold for two reasons, one it is a good hedge against inflation and two, it traditionally has some
negative correlation the stock market. But like gold, cues to don't pay interest, earn money, or have any ability to be valued based on anything other than what a buyer is willing to pay at the exact moment the seller wishes to sell.

I would be a cue collector and not an investor. I would collect the cues I want to own without thought to future value. Take Gus or bushkas, how much have they increased over the last 30 years. A ton! The greater the previous return, the less growth you should expect moving forward. To wit, add inflationary adjustments less an expected alternative ROI from other hard assets, I would take my chances elsewhere, especially since other hard assets can be leveraged. Not really feasible with cues.

I don't know if this helps anyone but, just like my other more expensive hobby- wine, I collect (and drink) but have assigned myself to not approach it as an investment or a way to make money.

Reminds me of the beautiful woman that advertised herself as available to marry a millionaire.

A millionaire responded that he would not marry her basically because he knew her value would decrease as she aged, he would however be happy to date her. Exactly how do you think he became a millionaire? By considering things carefully in such a way.

I was told that's a true story.

:grin:


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[Mr. Bond]

Indeed there is an 'investment' aspect to collecting, and an aesthetic aspect, and a historic aspect, and a 'high quality craftmanship' aspect, and to a lesser extent - a 'personality' aspect. (of the cuemaker himself)

However, I have found that the least 'subjective' of all these factors is the actual craftsmanship. Its either well made or its not.

Price, nostalgia, style, and personality are in the mind of the beholder, but high quality work is real, and has real value.

That said... what turns me on is holding a piece of work that was made by the hands of a master, not a machine. The price is not important to me, its popularity does not matter, and the style and ornamentation are almost a non-issue....

In other words, I wouldn't look at DaVinci's artwork and say to myself - "...it's only worth XXXX amount of money..."

I would instead say:
" From his work you can see that he was an undeniable master. To own any piece of his work would be a privilege, regardless of popular sentiment or perceived value "

 

[Fatboy]

I collect to sell - if I live to 60, I will travel to the DCC or Vega$ or somewhere the like, buy a booth and empty them out.

I collect cause they will go up in value and sometimes money in the bank doesn't seem to stay there with me - but a cue in a safe does.

let me know i'll set up shop with you, -in a few more years-