Cue Makers as Players

Do you think Allison would make a good cue? Somebody posted that a good player would know how to make a cue that feels good for them, therefore wouldn't Allison or even Strickland make a fiberglass cue?
 
TheBook said:
Do you think Allison would make a good cue? Somebody posted that a good player would know how to make a cue that feels good for them, therefore wouldn't Allison or even Strickland make a fiberglass cue?

players have definite opinions about how a cue should hit. and that's about all their experience is good for. good player doesn't necessarily equal good cuemaker. however, with today's knowledge and equipment, i think you have to be pretty pathetic not to make a decent cue.
 
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strong players

ScottR said:
This subject of whether a cue maker is a "player" has been brought up in other threads. I believe someone who plays well has a distinct advantage in making a cue. Not taking anything away from the difficulty in constructing a quality cue; just in terms of the way it "feels". Very subjective I know.

So, who are the cue makers out there who are/were good players too?

Here are a few I know or have heard about.

Bill Stroud and Dan Janes were road partners before cue making. Bill continued to play 1 pocket after they split, and I don't know about Dan.
Seems like a guy named Mike Sigel used to play pretty sporty. :p
I have heard that Paul Mottey and Dennis Searing play well.
And, from my neck of the woods, Chris Hightower and Danny Tibbitts are players.

Scott
paul mottey is a strong player, and Jerry Mcworter and his wife are both excellent players
 
TheBook said:
Do you think Allison would make a good cue? Somebody posted that a good player would know how to make a cue that feels good for them, therefore wouldn't Allison or even Strickland make a fiberglass cue?
Yea Book, they just love fiberglass... thats why they play with that equipment... has nothing to do with sponsor dollars at ALL!! ;)
 
Widowmaker

Noone mentioned Bert Kinister, Widowmaker Cues and Instructional pool videos... I played him at Pockets and he played real good (9 ball)... I won some, but I think he was just trying stuff while we were chatting about cues... He didn't really play safes instead opting for multirail banks...

He only makes <20 cues per year, but if the President has one of your cues (from what he told me) you gotta qualify as a cuemaker right...

BTW, anyone else but me think it is ironic that President Bush shoots with a "Widowmaker" Cue??
 
btw,,,stroud told me a few years ago he ran 3 or 4 balls short of a perfect game in snooker.
 
Lil' Al Romero has been making Sneaky Pete's for years at Hard Times in Bellflower and still plays all games well.
 
Cue Makers as players

ScottR said:
This subject of whether a cue maker is a "player" has been brought up in other threads. I believe someone who plays well has a distinct advantage in making a cue. Not taking anything away from the difficulty in constructing a quality cue; just in terms of the way it "feels". Very subjective I know.

So, who are the cue makers out there who are/were good players too?

Here are a few I know or have heard about.

Your list is not complete without Johnny "Get Back Jack" Madden. Not only does he make one of the best hitting cues avavilable today, he is still a very strong player and no doubt we will see him in action in the not too didtant future?

Cross Side Larry
 
Every cuemaker I've met has been a pretty decent player as well, but I've only met a few and by decent, I mean at least B-/C+ playing...
 
Some of the better known cuemakers that are/were great players (in no particular order):

Billy Stroud, Mike Sigel, Bobby Hunter, Paul Mottey, Mike Gulyassy, Rick Howard, Jack Madden, Skip Weston, and Danny Tibbitts

Sure there are many more but these come to my mind immediately. These guys really know their stuff when you talk "playability of a cue".
 
I just finished Buddy Hall's biography. Jack Madden and Leonard Bludworth are both mentioned as superior players (I can only assume that their cue-making skills are the same).

Sailor Stellman (?spelling) is also considered by several pro's to be the epitome of a player/cuemaker, with more hundred ball runs than you can count. I've heard that if you are a straight pool player you should be willing to kill for one of his custom fit cues.
 
cueaddicts said:
Some of the better known cuemakers that are/were great players (in no particular order):

Billy Stroud, Mike Sigel, Bobby Hunter, Paul Mottey, Mike Gulyassy, Rick Howard, Jack Madden, Skip Weston, and Danny Tibbitts

Sure there are many more but these come to my mind immediately. These guys really know their stuff when you talk "playability of a cue".

Yeah, I've played Danny a LOT. When he's on, he's real hard to beat. Several years ago when he was playing the local tournaments a lot, it seemed like we drew each other in the first round just about every time. Either that, or we would draw each other on the one-loss side. A few times I put him in the loser's bracket or out from the loser's side only so I could go one or two more and out from there. That always made me feel bad because he was my friend and he was a better player than I was... but it didn't keep me from doing it. :)

I played Chris Hightower a time or two, also. He ain't no slouch, either...plays pretty sporty when he's hitting 'em.
 
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cuemakers tourny

misterpoole said:
cueman said:
I propose a World Nine Ball Championship for Cuemakers. You would need to be a member of the ACA or ICA or have been listed in the 2nd Edition Blue Book of Cues as a Cuemaker to qualify.

Magoo's in Tulsa had this tournament in, I think, the mid 90's. Bill Stroud won it.
Mike Betts is a strong player who makes/made a nice cue.
Yes it was at MaGoo's. I put the whole thing together. Jim McDeromtt was host along with Mike Betts. Those two laid the carpet out for us.
Mike's not only a nice guy, he's a pretty darn good player.[plus he can reach all shots. he's very tall].
blud
 
Guys,u forgot our poster Ted Harris.He can give 7 to most of the posters of AZB.
Vagabond
 
Cue Makin - Straight Shootin - Sun Of A Guns

PAUL MOTTEY AND DENNIS SEARING.

I had the honor of playing on a BCA team with Dennis Searing at the LAst Resort Saloon in Delray Beach , FLA. I learned alot from him and he is a super nice guy.

I cant wait to get my titlest conversion from him . It should be soon.

PAt
 
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vagabond said:
Guys,u forgot our poster Ted Harris.He can give 7 to most of the posters of AZB.
Vagabond

I hear you Vagabond! See message #28 of this thread from back in June.

Andy
 
Lil Al

Rude Dog said:
Lil' Al Romero has been making Sneaky Pete's for years at Hard Times in Bellflower and still plays all games well.

I watched many times, Keith and Lil Al go at each other at the old Hard Times in Costa Mesa in the late 70's. If I remember correctly Lil Al got the 8 on his breaks and the 7 on Keith's break. Lil Al seem to get the better of it over a 6 month period. That was also on the big table. I can't remember them matching up on the bar box. I don't think he wanted any part of Keith on the bar box with the big ball at that time. I don't remember anybody playing Keith with the big ball EVEN and getting the money on the bar box. Just cause I don't remember it or didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen though!!!

no-sho
 
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