personally I like players. At $50, they're pretty much
disposable. Can't beat that
disposable. Can't beat that
Cue Ratings by brand ??
- Thread starter xunkn0vvnx
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xunkn0vvnx said:
A poor man rates his cues by hit:
Poor- Imperial
mediocre- Cuetec(fiberglass)
fair to decent-Pechauer(disappointing), Quest (tips suck),
Action sneaky pete ( actually pretty good)
good- Lucasi, Joss ( especially my higher end Joss)
very good- Dale Perry, McDermott Sierra, Meucci OLD1.
Still waiting on my Dominiak.
drivermaker
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Celtic said:
I don't know what kind of Joss cues they're sending to the outback, but I gotta disagree with you about Joss. They're a VERY solid hitting cue with good balance. I think they have great feedback. I have one that I purchased about 4 years ago that's perfectly straight. If you rest it on the rail about an inch above the joint with the butt on the table and roll it back and forth, there isn't even a trace of wobble or going in circles. You'll hardly ever see that happen even with some top of the line expensive customs.
most production cues, IMHO, have good hitters and bad hitters,,,depends on who glued or screwed it together that day,,,I only have production cues, buy 'em whenever and wherever; keep the good shooters & sell the poor and mediocre,,,some only need a tip change to bring them 'alive'
in another thread someone stated that a new cue has a 'sort of honeymoon' period when they're new, because you are concentrating on you shots and adjusting to that new cue,,,when you become 'familiar' with the new stick, your old/sometimes bad habits creep back in,,,,well, I haven't bought a new cue in over a year now,,,the results are in: overall consistency, breaking & shooting (5280 cue with a tip change), best breaker (Audrick -Philippine cue),,,,best shooter (Pechauer)
I may be wrong, but this thread starter is most likely looking for a consensus on cues & he is not going to find one,,,if that cue existed, everybody else would be out of business,,,then, again he might be like an ex-friend of mine,,,looking for someone to blame when he buys the 'wrong' stick,,,,No Flames, Just Facts,,,,jflan
in another thread someone stated that a new cue has a 'sort of honeymoon' period when they're new, because you are concentrating on you shots and adjusting to that new cue,,,when you become 'familiar' with the new stick, your old/sometimes bad habits creep back in,,,,well, I haven't bought a new cue in over a year now,,,the results are in: overall consistency, breaking & shooting (5280 cue with a tip change), best breaker (Audrick -Philippine cue),,,,best shooter (Pechauer)
I may be wrong, but this thread starter is most likely looking for a consensus on cues & he is not going to find one,,,if that cue existed, everybody else would be out of business,,,then, again he might be like an ex-friend of mine,,,looking for someone to blame when he buys the 'wrong' stick,,,,No Flames, Just Facts,,,,jflan
drivermaker said:
This was in Calgary that I saw this shipment. They had about 10 Joss just sent from the company, still in the bubble wrap. I pulled out every single cue in the entire shipment and checked them out, there was ONE straight cue, a Joss Hustler without the usual stainless joint and the ash points (I bought it, great hitting cue mostly due to the non-steel joint and stayed straight as an arrow) the other cues were all warped right out of the packaging, most pretty bloody badly as well. The reason I even checked them was a custom order of a Joss in the same style of the CoM one came in for a customer and I checked it out and it was warped, and I mean bad. That got me checking the others out and every single cue in the shipment except the Huster was warped to some degree all of these $250-$500 cues, it is just wrong that a company would have such poor quality control and let such things leave the factory in such a condition. The custom cue the guy ordered was $1000 CND, for a badly warped brand new shipped cue. That is inexcusable. I knew enough to pick the flower from amoung the thorns but there are alot of people who dont know any better and can get extremely ripped off by this kind of crap. My parents bought me a pool table when I was 14 or so, I got 2 bar sticks with it, one was straight as an arrow, the other was warped badly, brand new mind you. My parents simply did not know any better or know how to check out the quality of the cues and whether they were straight. Companies that take advantage of such situations and therefore dont worry alot about quality control and hope to sell off their crap on unsuspecting people who are not aware of the faults of the product tick me off. Dufferin was a good example as well of just such a company, in any one of the Dufferin stores in Canada you would find 80% of the cues from $50-$300 were warped really badly, you had to really search to find the good straight ones and more often then not they sold alot of the crappy cues to people who did not know any better. I cannot say I am disappointed that Dufferin went belly up, they deserved it.
drivermaker
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Celtic said:
Was the United States on good terms with Canada at the time...or bad terms?
I just had my hands on another new Joss within the last week and it was as solid and straight as could be. It hit beautifully and had no wobble whatsoever in the shaft. In a blind "hit test" (covering up anything on the cue to identify the maker) with 100 knowledgable players, I'd place that Joss up against ANY production cue out there and a vast majority of custom cues and I think it would rate EXTREMELY high in all areas and beat out many that are highly thought of. Your post is the first time I've EVER heard anything awry with Joss cues.
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drivermaker said:Was the United States on good terms with Canada at the time...or bad terms?
I just had my hands on another new Joss within the last week and it was as solid and straight as could be. It hit beautifully and had no wobble whatsoever in the shaft. In a blind "hit test" (covering up anything on the cue to identify the maker) with 100 knowledgable players, I'd place that Joss up against ANY production cue out there and a vast majority of custom cues and I think it would rate EXTREMELY high in all areas and beat out many that are highly thought of. Your post is the first time I've EVER heard anything awry with Joss cues.
I agree. I've done the blind test drive with several buyers over the years to eliminate the name of the maker having any influence.
Bludworth and Judd both sold two each out of 15 cues in one lineup. Joss sold four the same night in the same lineup. I won't bother mentioning the other cues, since they didn't get the same response. Although I will admit all the players buying cues in the blind test were APA players and were 5's-7's.
Asthetics aside, if it doesn't feel good, doesn't hit right, how can it play right. There are the variables that you'll get in any poolroom.... stiff hit, hard hitting, flexes like a fly rod, or laminated...... but overall, a good playing cue doesn't have to cost a fortune to be a good player. I just prefer them!
So I'm a cue snob..... wannaplaysome anyway?
hi
How is MEZZ comparing to Joss and Schon? (what class)
How is MEZZ comparing to Joss and Schon? (what class)
lord_shar said:I think it's pretty obvious that the caliber of the cue doesn't necessarily reflect the owner's skill level, but it is a fairly good indicator of his wallet's size.
Not necessarily so
Fancy cues - Pay Less shoes
Cuephoric said:
I'm gonna guess that my friend Drivermaker will not reply to this question, he's been banned for a while now
You do know that this thread originated in 2005 ? Going back through the old threads must be great for someone who was not there at the time.Dave