Cue stolen in bar: who is responsible?

Roger - Based on your account of the events, I vote in favor of offering the complaining customer a dealer's discounted price on a new shaft.

If he refuses, weather the storm... it'll blow over.

If he has half a brain, he will accept... that is, if he truly liked the shaft in the first place.

No way should the room owner pony up for the full cost of the replacement.
 
That does put a different twist on it Roger.
I could maybe see someone snatching the shaft if it was left outside the case. Why anyone with any knowledge of cues would snipe a Cue Tec
shaft that is proprietary to one type of butt I don't know.

If someone were to go to the trouble of opening a cue case, why wouldn't they swipe the butt to go along with it.

I'm with you on this one, he whacked his shaft and damaged it and is trying to scam a new one.

I don't believe the bar owner is responsible but obviously he is a stand up guy. At most offer him the shaft at dealer cost and see how he reacts.
 
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Roger Long said:
Okay, a few more details:

This happened in a very large bar/pool room; and a very busy place every night of the week. This player comes in only once a week, on his league night. This player also has a reputation of being somewhat of a complainer with a bit of a temper. (Just to qualify how "good" his customer status might be considered.)

As the player tells it, he left the shaft inside his cue case, and the cue case lying on the pub table next to the pool table he was shooting on. According to him (and even with his team mates sitting all around the area) someone opened up his cue case and stole his Cuetec shaft..."and this is the 2nd time this has happened in this bar!" (His quote.)

The problem I have with all this is that the pool room owner is contemplating having me order a new shaft for the guy (I run the pro shop there) just to keep him quiet. I'm trying to convince the owner that he should not give in to extortion tactics such as this. My personal belief is that the guy probably busted his own shaft during a little temper tantrum, and now he's going to try and get a free replacement out of the owner. And giving in to this guy won't pacify him, anyway. He would just go around bragging about how he got over on the owner, and then that would really start them all lining up!

On the other hand, Travis Trotter might be lurking around the pool room just waiting for someone to leave their Cuetec shaft unguarded. :eek:

Thanks for the feedback, everyone. I really appreciate it.

Roger
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If he had team mates all around the area, and "nobody saw" someone open up his case that was sitting on top of a table and steal his shaft, then I smell something.

-Andrew
 
Roger Long said:
I know a fella who left the shaft to his Cuetec cue unattended on league night and when he returned, it was missing. Now he claims it is the bar's responsibility to buy him a new shaft because this is the second time this has happened to him in that same bar, and he doesn't feel like he should have to constantly watch his equipment while shooting pool in there.

How do you all feel about this?

Roger
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I say feed him beans, if he doesn't like beans feed him sh*t!

No way, no how, is the bar responsible for his cue and he's a jerk for even suggesting that the bar is in any way responsible.
 
you snooze you lose

i don't even leave my cue with friends, or behind the bar with staff and owners for one simple reason.

giving it to them out of my laziness, would it be rightful of me to make them responsible for reimbursement if something was to ever happen to my equipment? of course the answer is no.
 
He should be able to collect under his home owner's insurance policy.
Depreciated value of a used Cuetec shaft should be about two bits.
Hope he has a low deductible.:D
 
that may be a little harsh

Scaramouche said:
He should be able to collect under his home owner's insurance policy.
Depreciated value of a used Cuetec shaft should be about two bits.
Hope he has a low deductible.:D
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even if it's been signed by earl strickland?:p:grin-square:
 
shinobi...My thoughts exactly!

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

shinobi said:
After giving this thread a second thought and second read, the question seems so daft that I am surprised you felt it worthy of a thread. I'm wondering if there was some ulterior motive here, such as you hoping to receive a landslide of "What an idiot" posts so you could show them to the guy in question?
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Hmmmm

YES, the bar is definitely responsible !!! Please tell me the bars name and address.

My Bushka, My Bushka, has anyone seen my Bushka? It was right here a minute ago. Um, that will be $22,500 please Mr. Bar Owner !!

Yeah, that's not gonna happen !!
 
brandoncook26 said:
It is your responsibility to take care of your stuff.
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The simple fact that someone thinks this is a meaningful question is a joke.

If I or you or any one else is in the middle of Montana and a bear eats my que, is it the states responsible? Hell No!

This society, including my generation by the way, needs to take personal responsibility for their actions.

There is an old story about a young man talking to an elderly man, the young man says, "Old man, you didn't have trains, plains, automobiles or computers when you were my age, so how do you know what it was like?" The old man responds, "Son, you are correct. We didn't have those things, so we had to invent them."

Knowledge can come from books, but wisdom from experience.
 
PocketPoint said:
Only problem is that it seems like you can't take care of business anymore. If you want to stand up for yourself and challenge someone, they might shoot you. Or sue you!
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Seems like you can't take care of business any more?

The key word is seems. Business is business...meaning to each his own best interest (according to Adam Smith). The reality is people are suppressed by their own nativity, ignorance or cowardliness too often.

Men should be men and stand up for what they believe. Just because someone says something or writes something doesn't make it true. Our forefathers (assuming you are American) risked everything for their lifes and livelyhoods so that we could have the live we live today.

We are seeing (potentially) the same revolution in the world today. The dictated nations of the past have be liberated intellectually and are now rebelling.

Never forget that this great country of America was created by rebels fighting for an ideal.
 
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Kickin' Chicken said:
I say that the bar should definitely take financial responsibility for every 5th cue or shaft stolen from this poor guy.

And that they should consider posting a sign stating this policy. :thumbup:

Best,
Brian kc
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That's pretty funny
The bar should start selling Cuetec's and advertise one free Cuetec cue
for every 5-Cuetec's lost or stolen in our bar.
Cuetec's must be lost or stolen in this bar.
We are not responsible for Cuetec's lost or stolen in other bars.
 
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