cue table crashes my browser

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After recent updates including loading the latest JAVA updates, cue table crashes my browser, either IE or Flock. JoeyA's thread with cue table has crashed it six or eight times and when I tried one that Neil posted I got the same results.

Anyone else having this issue?

Thanks,
Hu
 
After recent updates including loading the latest JAVA updates, cue table crashes my browser, either IE or Flock. JoeyA's thread with cue table has crashed it six or eight times and when I tried one that Neil posted I got the same results.

Anyone else having this issue?

Thanks,
Hu

Flock..? Not familiar. I use Firefox 3 exclusively. If you haven't tried it give'r a whirl. It has a lot of great features and is faster the IE. I love all the plug ins/add ons.

TJ
 
Flock is very similar, crashes Firefox too though

Flock..? Not familiar. I use Firefox 3 exclusively. If you haven't tried it give'r a whirl. It has a lot of great features and is faster the IE. I love all the plug ins/add ons.

TJ

Flock is very similar to Firefox but I just checked and it crashes Firefox too. Seems to be a JAVA issue at a guess since it doesn't seem to be browser specific.

Hu
 
Flock is very similar to Firefox but I just checked and it crashes Firefox too. Seems to be a JAVA issue at a guess since it doesn't seem to be browser specific.

Hu

I have the same problem. MY desktop at home has no problems in both IE and Firefox. My work computer however keeps crashing when i open any threads with cuetable. (it actually helps me from slacking at work :P)

I think some plugins need to be installed. I never paid attention too much when it happens so I'm not sure which plugins.
 
ran fine until a few days ago

I have the same problem. MY desktop at home has no problems in both IE and Firefox. My work computer however keeps crashing when i open any threads with cuetable. (it actually helps me from slacking at work :P)

I think some plugins need to be installed. I never paid attention too much when it happens so I'm not sure which plugins.

I ran cue table fine until an update a few days ago. The browsers seem to be trying to load something they can't load. There is a slight possibility that it is something in someone's avatar or signature so I was a little slow to blame cue table but cue table does seem to be the issue. Fortunately it only crashes that window but still an annoyance. While I rarely post into those threads I like looking at them.

Hu
 
yepp

same here ..... right after they did their "upgrade":angry::angry: if thats what you want to call it
 
think I'll try contacting cue table

You may wanna try going back to the older version of Java. Ive seen that happen before in other programs.

Think I'll try contacting the cue table folks. I wanted to make sure it wasn't an individual problem with my computer first.

Hu
 
I had a hell of a time with it and nearly gave up. I run a pretty clean computer yet some screwup in the install/upgrade process with flash and shockwave caused cuetable to fail no matter what I tried to do to upgrade flash/etc. I finally got it working.

There are a couple of things you can try -
1. Java installation problem can cause this. You mentioned it happened after an upgrade.
Fully uninstall it by following these instructions:
http://www.java.com/en/download/help/uninstall_java.xml
In addition, there is an uninstaller program called Your Uninstaller that seems to work especially well and is free:
http://www.ursoftware.com/ (click the blue button)
After uninstalling it the proper way listed above, you can run this uninstaller program to scan for leftover bits that got missed (it'll search for install leftovers for everything you've ever uninstalled, not just shockwave)

Reinstall Java from here and then try to view a cuetable again:
http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp#win

2. Fully uninstall shockwave and reinstall it. This is the specific fix that did it for me. But I maybe went overboard... I uninstalled both shockwave and flash first, then searched my hard drive for macromedia leftovers (like in C:\Program Files\ , C:\Program Files\Common Files, C:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed , C:\Documents and Settings\YourUserName\Application Data , C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data , and maybe one or two other places). Basically run a windows search for "macromed" and delete all results that come up. Common sense does apply but I don't think there's anything called "macromedia whatever" that would be unsafe to delete.

Additionally I opened up the windows registry with start -> run -> regedit and did a search for macromed, pressing F3 after each successful search and deleting entries related to it and then repeating for entries related to shockwave. BUT this is probably a step you should skip. Deleting things in the registry can screw up your computer and it takes some experience with the registry to spot the difference between useful deletions, risky deletions, and useless ones that won't affect anything.

In theory, the uninstaller program mentioned above will take care of this for you and it's totally unecessary to do it by hand, which is both tedious and risky. Besides, now that adobe has taken over these programs, you would then be searching for adobe entries. If you use adobe products you'll end up with a lot more junk to sift through.

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After this complete uninstall I reinstalled from the official download links and everything worked fine.

3. You can get this problem from having a bad/outdated video card driver. Download the latest driver for your card. If you don't know the make and model and end up having to try this,
http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html
it will tell you what you need to know so you can google for the manufacturer's website. From there you should be able to see a section labelled drivers, downloads, or software.

If none of the above work, it could be you have a generally messy computer with random stuff installed that causes conflicts with other stuff. That's very vague I know, but basically the fix for that sort of situation is to uninstall stuff you know you don't need or use, and use the uninstaller program to clean up afterwards. If all else fails you can do the nuclear option and reinstall windows, which is not as bad as you'd think. If it comes to that, message me and I'd be glad to help with it.
 
I'll have to consider how much I want cue table

I was a system engineer in the 90's. That just lets me know how ignorant I am now after not keeping up with things for over a decade. I'm going to download and print your advice but to be honest I'm not sure how much I want to fight with this machine. It does have a couple of critical applications on it and I hate flogging software now without the knowledge working with machines every day gave me. This machine is fairly new and clean but it does run PhotoShop CS and ImageReady along with Reader and the usual things.

A very sincere thanks for your effort, I'm just a little lazy to dive into all that and dealing with the possible repercussions it could have right now.

Hu



I had a hell of a time with it and nearly gave up. I run a pretty clean computer yet some screwup in the install/upgrade process with flash and shockwave caused cuetable to fail no matter what I tried to do to upgrade flash/etc. I finally got it working.

There are a couple of things you can try -
1. Java installation problem can cause this. You mentioned it happened after an upgrade.
Fully uninstall it by following these instructions:
http://www.java.com/en/download/help/uninstall_java.xml
In addition, there is an uninstaller program called Your Uninstaller that seems to work especially well and is free:
http://www.ursoftware.com/ (click the blue button)
After uninstalling it the proper way listed above, you can run this uninstaller program to scan for leftover bits that got missed (it'll search for install leftovers for everything you've ever uninstalled, not just shockwave)

Reinstall Java from here and then try to view a cuetable again:
http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp#win

2. Fully uninstall shockwave and reinstall it. This is the specific fix that did it for me. But I maybe went overboard... I uninstalled both shockwave and flash first, then searched my hard drive for macromedia leftovers (like in C:\Program Files\ , C:\Program Files\Common Files, C:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed , C:\Documents and Settings\YourUserName\Application Data , C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data , and maybe one or two other places). Basically run a windows search for "macromed" and delete all results that come up. Common sense does apply but I don't think there's anything called "macromedia whatever" that would be unsafe to delete.

Additionally I opened up the windows registry with start -> run -> regedit and did a search for macromed, pressing F3 after each successful search and deleting entries related to it and then repeating for entries related to shockwave. BUT this is probably a step you should skip. Deleting things in the registry can screw up your computer and it takes some experience with the registry to spot the difference between useful deletions, risky deletions, and useless ones that won't affect anything.

In theory, the uninstaller program mentioned above will take care of this for you and it's totally unecessary to do it by hand, which is both tedious and risky. Besides, now that adobe has taken over these programs, you would then be searching for adobe entries. If you use adobe products you'll end up with a lot more junk to sift through.

---
After this complete uninstall I reinstalled from the official download links and everything worked fine.

3. You can get this problem from having a bad/outdated video card driver. Download the latest driver for your card. If you don't know the make and model and end up having to try this,
http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html
it will tell you what you need to know so you can google for the manufacturer's website. From there you should be able to see a section labelled drivers, downloads, or software.

If none of the above work, it could be you have a generally messy computer with random stuff installed that causes conflicts with other stuff. That's very vague I know, but basically the fix for that sort of situation is to uninstall stuff you know you don't need or use, and use the uninstaller program to clean up afterwards. If all else fails you can do the nuclear option and reinstall windows, which is not as bad as you'd think. If it comes to that, message me and I'd be glad to help with it.
 
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After recent updates including loading the latest JAVA updates, cue table crashes my browser, either IE or Flock. JoeyA's thread with cue table has crashed it six or eight times and when I tried one that Neil posted I got the same results.

Anyone else having this issue?

Thanks,
Hu

I had the same problem with an older computer. No problems with my new 2 gigabytes of memory :grin:.
 
Two gigs?

I had the same problem with an older computer. No problems with my new 2 gigabytes of memory :grin:.


Two gig of memory? What a lightweight! :D :D :D

I'm running four gig of memory, a quad processor, and I'm pretty sure nitrous! :thumbup:

Hu
 
When ya got a point, ya got a point!

his light weight aint crashin tho :thumbup:

When ya got a point, ya got a point but you oughta see how fast this high horsepower Vista machine crashes. It's like a rail job splashing off a wall at 300mph!

I knew all this speed would be good for something. :o :o

Hu
 
If you're still having the problem, here are additional troubleshooting steps.

Everytime IE crashes, open up the EventViewer; at the command line type in eventvwr and look under application or system log. The log file should record exactly what crashed, along with the file name.

Cuetable.com is flash based, Macromedia Flash is a competitor to Java. So, sabotaging a competitor's product is not unheard of. Microsoft does it all the time.

Now Java does have one big problem, version compatibility, which is why its not uncommon to see more than one version of java installed concurrently; 1.6. 1.7 etc. You may need to uninstall a 'conflicting' version of Java.
 
the machine claimed to

The last upgrade claimed to uninstall the older version of JAVA before installing the new version. So far other JAVA programs are running fine but I don't know what I run using Flash so that could be the issue. Always possible I was nailed with an automatic upgrade too although I try to keep all of that turned off. Think I'll check if Flash is up to date. Doesn't seem like it was too long since the latest update but who knows?

Hu



If you're still having the problem, here are additional troubleshooting steps.

Everytime IE crashes, open up the EventViewer; at the command line type in eventvwr and look under application or system log. The log file should record exactly what crashed, along with the file name.

Cuetable.com is flash based, Macromedia Flash is a competitor to Java. So, sabotaging a competitor's product is not unheard of. Microsoft does it all the time.

Now Java does have one big problem, version compatibility, which is why its not uncommon to see more than one version of java installed concurrently; 1.6. 1.7 etc. You may need to uninstall a 'conflicting' version of Java.
 
It's actually shockwave based, which is a little different. It's macromedia's fault, at one point they called everything "Shockwave" and even had "Shockwave Flash". Now shockwave and flash are two separate products.

Shockwave is oriented towards 3D rendering and flash is for 2D. Shockwave is actually better and can pretty much do everything flash can and more, but it's overkill... people who want to see animated/interactive stuff on the internet just need flash to get the job done.

Flash would actually have made a lot of sense for Cuetable, though shockwave is tailored for advanced calculations (so if you had real physics or 3Dness in the movement of the pool balls, then shockwave might be called for). As far as I know cuetable could have been done entirely in flash and the result would have been fewer crashes and blank layouts... flash is much more common and seems to be more robust, I never had to go to extreme measures to get flash working.

Not sure what the exact relationship between flash and java is. The java runtime thingies you can install just run the java code you may encounter on a website. The browser has a plugin that dials up the 'runtime environment' to execute that code, resulting in interactive stuff on the site. It's less oriented towards animation and making things pretty, but it's a more heavy duty programming language overall. That's my impression anyway. Maybe shockwave objects can be embedded in java or vice versa and that's why an update to java can cause shockwave problems.

Anyway... I'd really recommend trying "your uninstaller" and simply remove java and shockwave (not flash). Then reinstall them from the links. Won't take but a minute and I think it will fix it.
 
Flash and Java are competing technologies for the same end purpose; like choosing between Brunswick Centennials or Super Aramith TV balls. Cuetable.com requires flash engine in order to display tables properly.

At work I was not a fan of enabling Java automatic upgrade because Java version upgrades are not consistently cumulative. At work, our online time-clock app from ADP requires a specific version of Java (1.5.9). Newer versions (1.6.X) breaks the older version, even when installed side by side.

Right now most updates are for security reasons, rather than adding a useful feature. I can spend an entire posting on this, but I have to run off to the pool hall now.

The last upgrade claimed to uninstall the older version of JAVA before installing the new version. So far other JAVA programs are running fine but I don't know what I run using Flash so that could be the issue. Always possible I was nailed with an automatic upgrade too although I try to keep all of that turned off. Think I'll check if Flash is up to date. Doesn't seem like it was too long since the latest update but who knows?

Hu
 
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