Cue Table Excercizes ! Table #1

hi steve,

8, 15, 2, 13, 4, 9 -- break 6


perhaps the 2 and the 4 could change here- depends if the position/angle for the sidepocket is perfectly.

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Steve, that's a very good idea. At the moment end of the rack is what stops me from running more usually, so I should use this tool. Please continue posting the patterns here because discussion and opinions is what I need. On my own I can come out with a solution but I would never know if it is right or wrong. Also I suppose I should go and try some patterns at the table rather than just virtually.
 
I'd play it 8-4-2-9-15-13 -- break 6. If you're using the 9 as the key ball, there's no simple key-ball-to-the-key-ball. Isn't that concerning?

Y'all are better straight pool players than I am -- what am I missing?
 
6, 9, 15, 2, 13, 4 and 8 as break. Then again I am left handed and don't like the 6ball as the break.
 
3andstop said:
I don't think the 4 passes to the upper left corner pocket as we look at the layout. :)
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Ah yeah, that's hard to tell from above. Mosconiac's way works well too. I like the 13 as a key ball because any of the 2, 4, or 15 gets you on the proper side for the 13.
 
All these variables work, I think the key thing here is going after the 15,2,4 right after shooting the 8 is the smartest approach while you still have pivot balls left on the table.

I thought this was a good starter post for some of the newbies that have signed on recently. I will keep on random breaking balls and try to come up some harder ones as time goes on.

What do you guys think ?

-Steve
 
dr9ball said:
Then again I am left handed and don't like the 6ball as the break.
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if you meant to say you don't like it because of being a lefty - that's weird since 6 ball is on the proper side for a lefty to reach easy. I'm a southpaw myself.
 
Vahmurka said:
if you meant to say you don't like it because of being a lefty - that's weird since 6 ball is on the proper side for a lefty to reach easy. I'm a southpaw myself.
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I don't see how that's easy for a lefty to shoot the 6 into the lower left hand corner. They would have to stretch over the table, the other side is much easier for me (i.e. the break ball on the right side of the table. I can walk down the rail easily.

Of course I might not think it's easy because of my relatively large size. I'm only about 430lbs and stretching over the table isn't something I really enjoy.

To each their own I guess. I know alot of players don't like below the stack break shots either.
 
dr9ball said:
I don't see how that's easy for a lefty to shoot the 6 into the lower left hand corner. They would have to stretch over the table, the other side is much easier for me
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from what I know, it is required to park the cue ball for the break shot in the area indicated with yellow. That way you are neither too far nor too close to the break ball, so you don't have to face a long shot or stretch for an uncomfortable stroke.
We are striving for the shot parallel with the long rail (green lines). Being along this line on the 6 is natural for the lefty, and is quite opposite for the break on the 4 or 2. For a lefty, to reach the break shot on 4 or 2 comfortably the line of the shot should be somewhere like black on my drawing.

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Vahmurka said:
We are striving for the shot parallel with the long rail (green lines). Being along this line on the 6 is natural for the lefty, and is quite opposite for the break on the 4 or 2. For a lefty, to reach the break shot on 4 or 2 comfortably the line of the shot should be somewhere like black on my drawing.
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You seem to be saying that it is just as easy to break on one side as another. This is not true. When the shot is parallel to the side rail, you can still stand on the side of the table if you are on your natural side. When you are on the other side, you have to reach from the head of the table. For me, the reach is no problem and you have to be able to shoot from either side. Personally I wouldn't make my runout more difficult just to avoid one side or the other, but one is a little trickier than the other, no doubt.
 
Dan White said:
You seem to be saying that it is just as easy to break on one side as another.
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I was never going to, but actually just the opposite. Your post indicates I failed to put my thoughts right.
You stand correct about natural side, and this was what I marked with green lines for both left and right hand. Whereas if I (being left-handed) have to break from right side of the table, I need to play position as marked with a black line (close to the long rail rather than parallel where it will be harder to reach for me). Right-handed, just visualize the image mirrored.

P.S. Note my post was only to show dr9ball that IMO he was wrong with his statement: "I don't see how that's easy for a lefty to shoot the 6 into the lower left hand corner." As a lefty I know the 6 is easy and natural.
 
Vahmurka said:
P.S. Note my post was only to show dr9ball that IMO he was wrong with his statement: "I don't see how that's easy for a lefty to shoot the 6 into the lower left hand corner." As a lefty I know the 6 is easy and natural.
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I have to disagree with you and agree with dr9ball. I notice you are in Moscow, so maybe it is a language thing. I'm a lefty so I can tell you shooting the six ball is harder from the left side than the right side. On the left side, of course, your body is in the way and so you have to partly lie down on the table rail, or shoot an extreme angle break shot so that your body isn't so close to the table.

If you are also talking about shooting on your green parallel line, there is no problem for a lefty shooting from the right side of the table, unless you are unusually short. On the other side of the table, of course, you have to shoot from the head of the table.
 
Dan White said:
I notice you are in Moscow, so maybe it is a language thing. I'm a lefty so I can tell you shooting the six ball is harder from the left side than the right side.
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Yes, language must have something to do here. Or, I just play this game totally wrong :grin-square:
 
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