Cue tip size help

OK buckwheat do you have 9 pennies ?

9 pennies stacked = 12.94 mm
1 pennys think ness is roughly 1.60 mm

Dimes are 1.30 mm, so ten dimes will work too

I like the outside the box thinking using stacked change. 9 pennies would be 14.4 though. I just need to buy a dang caliper.
 
Chances are if the Predator shaft has had more tip changes, it will be
a tad smaller. I'm guessing it has?
 
Chances are if the Predator shaft has had more tip changes, it will be
a tad smaller. I'm guessing it has?

Full disclosure is, I'm not sure. I bought it used but it looks like it is new. The tip is definitely new. (minus the few games I have on it now)
 
You can buy a tip gauge for about a dollar ..... Mueller's has them.

Or ... get a wooded clothespin, slide the end you hold with your fingers over the tip until it touches ... mark the clothespin with a pen .... and get a ruler.

Or ... lay the shaft on a piece of paper ... mark either side with a pencil or pen ... get that same ruler.
 
The OB1+ may look bigger that the 314 but, it could be kind of an illusion for some
reason, maybe it's the OB1 tip mushrooming enough to make it look big.
I would never turn down a laminated shaft, so I'm just guessing the 314 is 12.75, and the difference is the tip.

I think you're right. Horizontal stripes make people look fat too!
 
If you have a sharpie marker, the cap diameter is 13mm at its largest, and right below the cap on the barrel, the diameter is 12.5mm. You can use one or both as a rough visual comparison. :cool:

Or maybe Slim would measure his chest hairs for ya........ :thumbup:
 
So I have some results... I feel like the OB is within tolerance being slightly larger than 12.75 but the 314-2 seems like it way small. Is this normal? I like the feel of the smaller shaft more, should I opt for a ob2 and hope it's slightly oversized...?
 

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Nope, not normal. That shaft has been turned down Im guessing. Im not sure, but it might be below warranty specs now. :sorry:
 
Clearly someone turned down the Predator.
No biggie.
Perfect chance for you to see which size you prefer.
 
Actually it's not unusual for Predator shafts to be lower than 12.75 close to the tip, in my experience. OBs tend to be closer right at the tip. Predator seems to measure their standard a few inches up the shaft where the hand would normally be, I think. In other words, I think Predator seems to make closer to a conical taper shaft than OB.

It's also possible your Predator could have had a few tip changes with aggressive cue repairmen, but this is my experience with the two shaft-makers.

All the best,
WW
 
Actually it's not unusual for Predator shafts to be lower than 12.75 close to the tip, in my experience. OBs tend to be closer right at the tip. Predator seems to measure their standard a few inches up the shaft where the hand would normally be, I think. In other words, I think Predator seems to make closer to a conical taper shaft than OB.

It's also possible your Predator could have had a few tip changes with aggressive cue repairmen, but this is my experience with the two shaft-makers.

All the best,
WW

Bingo, without knowing, it could be from years of hand sanding as well.....

OP, would you rotate it and measure it to make sure its not egg shaped?
 
Bingo, without knowing, it could be from years of hand sanding as well.....

OP, would you rotate it and measure it to make sure its not egg shaped?

It was my friends caliper so I was sure to measure each 3x for a good avg. I guess after all is said and done, turned down or aggressively serviced it still plays nicely. I do like the feel of the skinnier shaft, but I think the OB plays nicer if that makes any sense. I guess my ideal would possibly be an OB-2 shaft. Anyone want to trade? Ha.
 
Bingo, without knowing, it could be from years of hand sanding as well.....

OP, would you rotate it and measure it to make sure its not egg shaped?

I would definitely rotate the shaft around and measure it, although that tends to make more of a difference with a straight grain shaft. With hand sanding, they tend to end up larger at the end-grain sides (harder surface), and smaller at the sides with the large grain edges (softer surface).

I wonder how many people know what we're talking about... But anyhow, this shouldn't be a factor with either Predator or OB with their laminated construction, but who knows. Only a good micrometer and a steady hand really can tell.

All the best,
WW
 
Predator seems to measure their standard a few inches up the shaft where the hand would normally be

I've had my share of Predator shafts and not one of them has been off spec and I mean at the very tip of the ferrule, where the tip is glued, that's where each shaft has been exactly what they advertize.

In my opinion those OB measurements are way off spec and someone needs to recalibrate their machines....or workers....because that's about 12.9 mm and they don't advertise their shafts as 12.9 but 12.75.

This fits right in with my experience with OB because very shaft I've bought has always had an imprecise joint that causes wobble. Just off a little. Enough to have to send it to the cue maker for refitting.
Never had that with any of the Predator shafts I've bought.

Probably just my luck but it is what it is.
 
My burning question now is, should I send the OB back to the manufacturer and have it turned down to 12.25mm (since I'm not the original owner, I don't have a warranty) or should I just suck it up and play it as it is? If it goes back, it's getting a new tip too.
 
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