Cuetec announces Carbon Fiber tentative price and....

If you don’t think he needs thier money your sorely mistaken.. he’s doing well but not that well. It’s pool not golf lol I didn’t say it was junk..where did I say that. I said I don’t care what his opinion is. He is sponsored by them. He’s paid to say they are great. Further more none of us our in the same galaxy as players he is so what he plays with has nothing to do with your game. It’s the same thing I said about the revo shaft.. if you pick it up and hit with it and like it and it gives you confidence then it’s good for you .. if it doesn’t then it’s not. What svb can do with it has nothing to do with how your going to play with it.


Maniac said:
My comment you quoted was a response to DrCue'sProtege assertation that Cuetec puts out junk, which IMO, SVB has proven his claim to be false.

It makes no difference whether or not he's getting paid to use Cuetec because 1.) he's got enough money that he doesn't need their sponsorship, and 2.) it just so happens he's playing as good with the CF Cuetec as he's ever played in his life.

So, sponsorship or not, do you think he's going to use that CF shaft he uses if he thought it was junk? I doubt it very seriously. Obviously the shaft is good enough to win many tournaments with since he started using it. If it was inadequate for use, sponsorship or not we wouldn't be seeing him using it.

Maniac
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trob said:
If you don’t think he needs thier money your sorely mistaken.. he’s doing well but not that well. It’s pool not golf lol I didn’t say it was junk..where did I say that. I said I don’t care what his opinion is. He is sponsored by them. He’s paid to say they are great. Further more none of us our in the same galaxy as players he is so what he plays with has nothing to do with your game. It’s the same thing I said about the revo shaft.. if you pick it up and hit with it and like it and it gives you confidence then it’s good for you .. if it doesn’t then it’s not. What svb can do with it has nothing to do with how your going to play with it.
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I agree that incentives should be considered when understanding motives. The thing to consider about sponsorship is that even if SVB does need sponsor money, he certainly has more sponsors available than only Cuetech. Predator or OB wouldn't love to have him as a player representative. Even if Cuetech offered more money, it's unlikely that they offered so much more that SVB didn't have some choice in the matter of who he worked with. Furthermore, SVB has never struck me as a money grubber, he's a champion that believes that if you do the right things the money will follow (and he has been right!). Finally, you don't get to be #1 without wanting it more than most of us have wanted anything in our life. I can't imagine the amount of money you'd have to offer him to play with a cue he thought would cost him any edge.

This is a situation where there isn't clear 'proof' either way, but my gut tells me that he likes his Cuetech a lot. Even if I'm wrong about all of this, just the fact that pool can be played at SVB's current level is proof that it is a top shelf piece of equipment!
 
One other thing about these cues: You can tap a cue ball off its path after shooting it and no one will notice. Try that with a Revo.
 
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Rico said:
500$ shaft? If and when someone can show me a shaft that makes a b player an a player just changing shafts im in. Seen a guy i have seen a couple years at a tourn. this weekend who bought Revo shaft and break shaft .Didnt get to ask him what he thought he was gone 2 and out.Its still the indian.
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No one said you have to buy it, there are people with expendable income that enjoy trying new things, if it improves their game that is icing on the cake.

Does anyone know if Predator is advertising this will take you from a B player to a A player ?
Does it say anything about this arrow making you a more accurate Indian ?

I do not play with a Revo nor plan to but it certainly is none of my busn. if someone else does and enjoys it.
 
At the end of the day like all business the market will dictate the price. Some may think $499 is to much for the revo but they our selling them as fast as they can make them so it must be the right price. I guess the price I’m hearing for cuetec is going to be $399? If people buy it any where near the way they are buying the revo ...then it’s the price.
 
Is Cutec launching a break cue along with it? In the Dream Challenge it looked like Shane was breaking with a Predator BK Rush; if so Cutec needs to cash in on Shane's breaking reputation too...
 
icucybe said:
Is Cutec launching a break cue along with it? In the Dream Challenge it looked like Shane was breaking with a Predator BK Rush; if so Cutec needs to cash in on Shane's breaking reputation too...
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Yes, in one of the discussions on their facebook page, cuetec said they are working on it and it will be out sometime after the playing cue.
 
Altissimo15 said:
dr_dave said:
FYI, I just posted a new video covering many topics related to this thread, including a comparison of the new Cuetec CT-15K to the Predator Revo. Here it is:

NV J.12 - How to Select a Pool Cue, Cue Ball Deflection, Carbon Fiber, Revo vs. Cuetec
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Well, this should make a few people second guess their pre-orders :grin:
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... not necessarily. Some people, depending on how they compensate their aim when using english, will prefer a carbon shaft with a "more typical" amount of CB deflection.

Regards,
Dave
 
It changed my mind. I think I'll buy a second Revo shaft as a backup.

I was going to try the CF CueTech assuming it had low deflection very similar to the Revo. If it's deflection properties are closer to a maple shaft = no thanks.


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dr_dave said:
... not necessarily. Some people, depending on how they compensate their aim when using english, will prefer a carbon shaft with a "more typical" amount of CB deflection.

Regards,
Dave
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First of all I like some videos of yours I watched. Concerning these tests and comparisons it is a pity some more c.f. shafts were not tested - Becue shafts (first generation: 5.1 and Prime and Prime-M - second generation of Prime) and Mezz Ignite. I know Becue Prime-M is already available in two versions 12,00 and 12,5 mm. I don't know about Mezz though...
 
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Get_A_Grip said:
It changed my mind. I think I'll buy a second Revo shaft as a backup.

I was going to try the CF CueTech assuming it had low deflection very similar to the Revo. If it's deflection properties are closer to a maple shaft = no thanks.


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I know from a very reliable source who plays with the Revo 12,9 and will go Becue with new Prime-M shaft: that 12 mm version has even less deflection than Revo 12,9 but 12,5 mm version Prime-M is very comparable in both deflection and energy transfer with the Revo 12,9 mm. In addition new Prime-M shafts have short bright ferrules for better aiming. I don't mention Becue offers more options for a customer and all for a better price at the end. That's why if I ever decide to give a c.f. shaft a try I definitely like new generation of Becue with no paint over the others for the time being
 
I've used revo, becue, mezz and the cuetec. Here is how I rate each:

LD properties

Revo
Becue
Mezz
Cuetec

Energy transfer

Revo
Mezz
Becue
Cuetec

I do not care about FEEL.....SOUND........HIT..... or anything other balls slapping back of pockets and the QB staying on my string. So, I will leave all that stuff for others to review.
 
jrctherake said:
I've used revo, becue, mezz and the cuetec. Here is how I rate each:

LD properties

Revo
Becue
Mezz
Cuetec

Energy transfer

Revo
Mezz
Becue
Cuetec

I do not care about FEEL.....SOUND........HIT..... or anything other balls slapping back of pockets and the QB staying on my string. So, I will leave all that stuff for others to review.
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I would like to hear from you if the difference between Revo whatever version you play 12,4 or 12,9 and Becue Prime-M 12,5 (not 1st generation of Prime shaft!) in both deflection and energy transfer is so you can feel it immediately after just a few shots or is it just so slight between them... What I have heard from a strong player who played with Revo 12,9 and tested both new Prime-M versions: 12,00 version has less deflection but worse energy transfer and 12,5 mm is better in energy transfer so I assume 12,5 Prime-M is very close to Revo...For me as for being very tall and that's why building a 62" player for myself https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=463154 the major advantage of Becue is the possibility to get a 31" shaft from them. I don't know if the others will offer such an option.
P.S. As for energy transfer I'm so sure if I match my butt with that wood combo and construction with suitable length c.f. shaft it will be not so easy to find a better combo as for energy transfer ;). I know so many are more concerned about the shaft but I believe the butt is of great importance too (it is not only the weight, the balance and the look like most think)
 
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dr_dave said:
FYI, I just posted a new video covering many topics related to this thread, including a comparison of the new Cuetec CT-15K to the Predator Revo. Here it is:

NV J.12 - How to Select a Pool Cue, Cue Ball Deflection, Carbon Fiber, Revo vs. Cuetec

Enjoy,
Dave
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Hey Dave,Very informative video as always. One thing though and I know I mentioned this before. I can't believe how much deflection/squirt/whatever you are getting even with the low def shafts.

It appears on you follow through that your stroke goes off line and seems to steer the ball more offline. The same shot with me cue and it's regular deflection shaft, I know I can hit the ball with extreme left or right english and still contact the object ball.

I remember I made a video with kind of an overhead view last time. I'm gonna try one from the rail next time like yours is shot to see if I can apture what I'm talking about.
 
wibo said:
the four shafts had the same tips?
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This is a very good question. I have seen squirt/deflection differences depending not just on tip hardness but also material. Some mediums grab the ball better then other mediums.
 
S.Vaskovskyi said:
dr_dave said:
FYI, I just posted a new video covering many topics related to this thread, including a comparison of the new Cuetec CT-15K to the Predator Revo. Here it is:

NV J.12 - How to Select a Pool Cue, Cue Ball Deflection, Carbon Fiber, Revo vs. Cuetec
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First of all I like some videos of yours I watched.
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Thanks.

S.Vaskovskyi said:
Concerning these tests and comparisons it is a pity some more c.f. shafts were not tested - Becue shafts (first generation: 5.1 and Prime and Prime-M - second generation of Prime) and Mezz Ignite. I know Becue Prime-M is already available in two versions 12,00 and 12,5 mm. I don't know about Mezz though...
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One of my reasons for doing the video was to show how easy it is to compare shaft CB deflections using the natural-pivot-length test. Anybody can easily compare any shafts with this simple and reliable test. If you or others test other shafts, please post the pivot lengths here for comparison.

Regards,
Dave
 
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