Curious if this still goes on in some of the big money tournaments now?

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I can't help but wonder if with so much money involved are there still savers and splitting going on? Is there a mechanism they have in place to prevent it.
In smaller tournaments there is not even a pretense about it, even having players not bothering to play a final, they just split. I remember one tournament where Parica just let Tommy Kennedy win and have the trophy. The spectators once they saw what was going on wandered away not watching the final. They should have at least made it look good.
 
middleofnowhere said:
I can't help but wonder if with so much money involved are there still savers and splitting going on? Is there a mechanism they have in place to prevent it.
In smaller tournaments there is not even a pretense about it, even having players not bothering to play a final, they just split. I remember one tournament where Parica just let Tommy Kennedy win and have the trophy. The spectators once they saw what was going on wandered away not watching the final. They should have at least made it look good.
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I would assume it’s still happening, mostly because there just isn’t enough money even for the top players.

Where did the Kennedy/Parica game take place?
 
middleofnowhere said:
Lake Worth Florida. Tommy was notorious, probably still is, for having savers all over the place.
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I think I was there. If I remember right that’s the same event where a good player got arrested in his car while sleeping in-between matches. Was at a room on Congress Ave if I’m thinking of the right event. So many bottles of rum ago so I might have the wrong tournament.
 
Z-Nole said:
I think I was there. If I remember right that’s the same event where a good player got arrested in his car while sleeping in-between matches. Was at a room on Congress Ave if I’m thinking of the right event. So many bottles of rum ago so I might have the wrong tournament.
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That's the place. It had the pit table, although I don't remember when the pit was installed. Jimmy Reid played there and Bobby Williams. I will have to wait till my wife wakes up, for the life of me I can't remember the name of the place.
 
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easy-e said:
$2,000 for first, $1,000 for 2nd. The players in the finals agree just to each take $1,500. Or any others ways to creatively chop and redistribute the money.
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Also, when two players are on the loser side one match away from the money, may make a saver.

The player that wins agrees to give a percent of what he ends up winning based on how far he goes in the tournament to the loser. This at least guarantees the loser something.

As petty is this may sound, I've seen players like Buddy Hall and others of equal stature do the same thing lots of times.
 
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easy-e said:
$2,000 for first, $1,000 for 2nd. The players in the finals agree just to each take $1,500. Or any others ways to creatively chop and redistribute the money.
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middleofnowhere said:
Also, when two players are on the loser side one match away from the money, may make a saver.

The player that wins agrees to give a percent of what he ends up winning based on how far he goes in the tournament to the loser. This at least guarantees the loser something.

As petty is this may sound, I've seen players like Buddy Hall and others of equal stature do the same thing lots of times.
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Thanks for the replies guys 👍
 
middleofnowhere said:
The player that wins agrees to give a percent of what he ends up winning based on how far he goes in the tournament to the loser. This at least guarantees the loser something.
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Would they still play a real game? If they'd rather split the money to make sure they both can eat that's cool. I guess they don't need my approval, but I'd like to see them play their best. It's not like they are boxers getting beat up.
 
measureman said:
makes you wonder in golf when there is a play off with 2 golfers if they make a deal.
100's of thousands involved in golf between 1st and 2nd place.
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I bet Dustin Johnson and Corey Conners had a saver in their 3rd place match this weekend.
 
How’s that work? What happens when the guy that advances doesn’t pay up? Do they report agreement to the director of the event before playing? I would never have only a verbal agreement. Any tournament I’ve been in when players split they don’t play the final. Those obviously weren’t televised events.
 
Willowbrook Wolfy said:
How’s that work? What happens when the guy that advances doesn’t pay up? Do they report agreement to the director of the event before playing? I would never have only a verbal agreement. Any tournament I’ve been in when players split they don’t play the final. Those obviously weren’t televised events.
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He gets lectured if not worse. Never seen it happen myself. TD's in smaller events are used to savers. Some won't allow them. Varies.
 
There is no way to prevent an agreement between 2 people to split earnings privately. The only possible enforcement is no play- no pay for the finals and that has never happened to my knowledge. Local TDs seem to always allow late night/ early morning splits instead of playing the finals. Pool players and not willing to begin tournaments at 8 or 9 am so the larger one day events always go to the wee hours. Golf has a built- in night time issue anyhow.
 
Easy to solve that: just shorten the difference between 1st and 2nd prize money. In that way, no interest in making the split deal and any one will want the 1st place, because competing objective is to achieve the highest place possible.
 
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