DCC one pocket rule

haystj

haystj

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Can someone please explain this to me? I copied it directly from the DCC website.

Trapping or Wedging the Cue Ball: It is a foul if you deliberately trap or wedge the cue ball in the jaw of the pocket. In addition to the foul penalty, your opponent receives cue ball in hand behind the head string.

I hope I don't regret asking this, but I've had a long week and this rule is a bit confusing to me.

Thanks,
TH
 
Cannot trap (wedge) the cueball between your cue tip and the cushion facing of the pocket when taking an intentional foul.
 
haystj said:
Can someone please explain this to me? I copied it directly from the DCC website.

Trapping or Wedging the Cue Ball: It is a foul if you deliberately trap or wedge the cue ball in the jaw of the pocket. In addition to the foul penalty, your opponent receives cue ball in hand behind the head string.

I hope I don't regret asking this, but I've had a long week and this rule is a bit confusing to me.

Thanks,
TH
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Okay say you are left in the jaws. A "legal" foul would be to lightly shoot the cue ball into the jaw. Trapping or wedging would be shooting it into the jaw and holding your cue on the CB. It's like pushing through it. That's the easiest way to explain it.
 
Let's say the cue ball is by the corner pocket - you can't intentionally foul yourself by wedging the cue ball on the face of the pocket by pushing the cue ball up on the facing, essentially titty hooking your opponent.

The thought process is that it may cost you one ball but it might make it so you get a whole bunch when your opponent can't get out of this trap
 
The original rule was written in Latin, now a dead end language, so the interpretation is a little fuzzy after only 20 total games played since then.

Ooops, wrong thread.

Jeff Livingston
 
I believe it's a "legal foul" if you hit the CB legally (without prolonged contact). It's only an "illegal foul" (and ball in hand) if you "trap" ("wedge") the CB between the tip and pocket facing with prolonged contact.

pj
chgo

P.S. I think this should apply to all intentional fouls in 1 pocket - no "push" fouls allowed.
 
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Patrick Johnson said:
I believe it's a "legal foul" if you hit the CB legally (without prolonged contact). It's only an "illegal foul" (and ball in hand) if you "trap" ("wedge") the CB between the tip and pocket facing with prolonged contact.

pj
chgo

P.S. I think this should apply to all intentional fouls in 1 pocket - no "push" fouls allowed.
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It does to a certain degree. Its just tough because its the intentional part that is the determining factor.
 
Drop The Rock said:
It does to a certain degree. Its just tough because its the intentional part that is the determining factor.
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Not sure what you mean. Intentional fouling is a common allowed practice in 1 pocket. I just think it should be limited to fouls using a legal stroke and contact with the CB.

pj <- maybe it already is?
chgo

P.S. If you mean it's a "legal foul" if it's unintentional, I think it shouldn't be (to eliminate the need to determine intent).
 
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chefjeff said:
The original rule was written in Latin, now a dead end language, so the interpretation is a little fuzzy after only 20 total games played since then.

Ooops, wrong thread.

Jeff Livingston
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Patrick Johnson said:
I believe it's a "legal foul" if you hit the CB legally (without prolonged contact). It's only an "illegal foul" (and ball in hand) if you "trap" ("wedge") the CB between the tip and pocket facing with prolonged contact.

pj
chgo

P.S. I think this should apply to all intentional fouls in 1 pocket - no "push" fouls allowed.
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As in 'pushing' the cb slowly, a short distance, into the middle of the stack, through a small opening, leaving it surrounded on all sides by balls? :sorry:
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Not sure what you mean. Intentional fouling is a common allowed practice in 1 pocket. I just think it should be limited to fouls using a legal stroke and contact with the CB.

pj <- maybe it already is?
chgo

P.S. If you mean it's a "legal foul" if it's unintentional, I think it shouldn't be (to eliminate the need to determine intent).
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Using an illegal stroke to commit an intentional is what I mean.
 
Patrick Johnson said:
I believe it's a "legal foul" if you hit the CB legally (without prolonged contact). It's only an "illegal foul" (and ball in hand) if you "trap" ("wedge") the CB between the tip and pocket facing with prolonged contact.

pj
chgo

P.S. I think this should apply to all intentional fouls in 1 pocket - no "push" fouls allowed.
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3RAILKICK said:
As in 'pushing' the cb slowly, a short distance, into the middle of the stack, through a small opening, leaving it surrounded on all sides by balls? :sorry:
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Yes, that's one example. Another is simply pushing the CB up against an OB or a rail, using the push stroke to be sure it ends up frozen. Whether the push is intentional or not (to avoid having to determine that), I believe it should be a ball in hand foul.

pj
chgo
 
i've seen more arguments about double hits than any other part of onepocket, some guys play frikin shuffle board with the CB and got all defensive when you call them on it. The " one continuous stroke" argument, my ass you just plowed though the entire rack with your cue,lol
 
Simply you cannot trap or corner hook your opponent in a pocket by trapping the ball between the cushion/face of the pocket and the cue tip. You can slow roll it to the face of the pocket, but you cannot use the tip of your cue to make sure it doesn't come off the face. I've played in a couple of tourneys where it is actually loss of game, not just a foul.
 
Here's another tricky situation at one pocket (and can apply to 9 ball as well):

The cue ball is 1mm from an object ball pointed one diamond away from your opponent's pocket. He has a ball hanging in his pocket and there is no good safe, not even a roll-out somewhere. He needs two balls and has easy position if he can see the hanger. You play a double-hit foul through the ball the cue ball is against and you pocket the hanger. He now has no shot and you have a chance to win.

What's the call?
 
Bob Jewett said:
Here's another tricky situation at one pocket (and can apply to 9 ball as well):

The cue ball is 1mm from an object ball pointed one diamond away from your opponent's pocket. He has a ball hanging in his pocket and there is no good safe, not even a roll-out somewhere. He needs two balls and has easy position if he can see the hanger. You play a double-hit foul through the ball the cue ball is against and you pocket the hanger. He now has no shot and you have a chance to win.

What's the call?
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If it's a normal foul you also get to spot the ball you just made for him. 😡

pj
chgo
 
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