Dechaine quits out of turn!

So, I just watched Mike Dechaine miss a shot against Corey Deuel and then he immediately quit with Corey still needing 9 Balls.

The score was 116 each going to 125 at the MD Straight Pool Championships.

Both players were seemingly falling apart at the last minute but the issue here is that I don't think Mike should really be allowed to quit unless it's his turn at the table.

Technically, shouldn't Corey should have to come to the table and be forced to close out the match?

Corey needed 9 balls with actually only 6 open balls at the table, which means Mike still had a chance.

Silly, if you ask me.

I don't see it being a big deal for Mike to quit. From what I can gather it was a frustrating match for both and it sounds like the miss was the last straw for Mike.
 
You do know that the majority of people thought that fight was a dump, don't you?

They do? I hadn't noticed that. Maybe the majority of the bettors who had Duran as a favorite to win felt he dumped. :rolleyes:

IMO the only dive taken in that one was Duran's popularity back in Panama. If he wanted to dump, he could have made it more convincing than just suddenly raising his hands in defeat late in the fight.

Leonard fought his fight and Duran was unable to deal with it. He quit in frustration and embarrassment, not wanting the humiliation to go on any further. That's what many (including I) feel happened.
 
I don't see it being a big deal for Mike to quit. From what I can gather it was a frustrating match for both and it sounds like the miss was the last straw for Mike.

That's exactly what it looked like to me. It could happen to anyone. Actually, I'm surprised it wasn't Corey to quit. He finally had the match in his grasp but should have lost after that careless scratch. I wish folks here would give Mike a break and just enjoy his great talent with a cue.
 
Only because he knew he'd be charged for heavy damage to the table.
HOOOOOHHHHHH

that was mean, sorry.

Drago tried to take it back because he'd forgotten there's a 500ish dollar fine for conceding like that.
He was bashing his head because he basically just set fire to his rent money.

Why are you quoting me out of context? I didn't say anything about Dechaine hitting the table with his head, that was somebody else. I came on here to defend him, for Christ's sake.

If you want to attack somebody, go attack Dennis Walsh, who called him "Douchaine" on the chat. Real nice from a supposed pillar of the sport, and a lawyer at that.:angry:
 
Why are you quoting me out of context? I didn't say anything about Dechaine hitting the table with his head, that was somebody else. I came on here to defend him, for Christ's sake.

If you want to attack somebody, go attack Dennis Walsh, who called him "Douchaine" on the chat. Real nice from a supposed pillar of the sport, and a lawyer at that.:angry:

No-one said Dechaine hit his head, people were talking about Tony.
 
I don't see it being a big deal for Mike to quit. From what I can gather it was a frustrating match for both and it sounds like the miss was the last straw for Mike.

What about the public and those that came to watch? If there were youngsters there that too speaks volumes. When your on a high level, no one owes you anything, but the room owner and the intangibles deserve better.
 
What about the public and those that came to watch? If there were youngsters there that too speaks volumes. When your on a high level, no one owes you anything, but the room owner and the intangibles deserve better.

:sorry:


I believe it was free to watch. Out of respect for Cory's game, Mike threw in the towel.

This is common practice among great players who have respect.


What if it was Cory that threw in the towel early, would this keep going on and on?

I don't see anything wrong with what Mike did. He said it was over and he could hear the fat lady singing.:smile:
 
:sorry:


I believe it was free to watch. Out of respect for Cory's game, Mike threw in the towel.

This is common practice among great players who have respect.


What if it was Cory that threw in the towel early, would this keep going on and on?

I don't see anything wrong with what Mike did. He said it was over and he could hear the fat lady singing.:smile:

If he literally threw in the towel, we all know that meaning. But if I was a parent watching it with his kid, the kid would ask....what happened?
 
That really wasn't quitting. I missed a pretty easy ball and felt Corey could run the 10 wide open balls on the table. I guess something could have happened but I respect his game.

Just for accuracy, Mike: there were still 12 balls on the table -- 6 loose and 6 in a cluster. You were both at a score of 116. Running 9 balls from that position was by no means automatic.
 
So, I just watched Mike Dechaine miss a shot against Corey Deuel and then he immediately quit with Corey still needing 9 Balls.

The score was 116 each going to 125 at the MD Straight Pool Championships.

Both players were seemingly falling apart at the last minute but the issue here is that I don't think Mike should really be allowed to quit unless it's his turn at the table.

Technically, shouldn't Corey should have to come to the table and be forced to close out the match?

Corey needed 9 balls with actually only 6 open balls at the table, which means Mike still had a chance.

Silly, if you ask me.

Is this really surprising? Ive seen several videos of mike and have never once thought of him a professional.
 
Who hasn't conceded a match when they think it's over and are pissed off with themselves for missing an easy ball?

Really, people have too much time on their hands.

Well said. Just a storm in a teacup.

I know it sounds nitpicky, but these are rules that have been established for many years. If you've ever watched a snooker match and the player is in the middle of a run and yet has clearly won the frame, you NEVER see the other player get up and say, 'Okay, you win!'

The opponent cannot technically forfeit until the inning is over and it is his turn at the table.

I feel it's important to understand this because this is an integral part of sportsmanship.

Not that the food thing had any merit either.

Don't think you can compare with snooker which is a straight laced tuxedo game ? All kinds of nitpicky and silly arcane rules (no offence to snooker players). Played with a drunk snooker player on a barbox in a drinking bar ( and yes it was a social game not a tournament. And yes it was 8 ball game not snooker ) and when he was on the black ball, this drunkard told me that I cannot hang up my cue as it is disrespectful to him. I told him we are not playing World Championship snooker and told him to fxxxing shoot and stop whining. He shot, potted the black and also scratched. I almost did an Alex Pagalayan victory lap
:thumbup: :D
 
This can happen with any type of individual sport and personally see
nothing wrong with it.If Mike felt that was enough and wanted to concede,
so be it!
I've seen it in Boxing ,Tennis,Golf,that when a player has reached his breaking
point,then its time to go home.If he would of stayed and freaked out,people
would of said what a idiot he was.
The people that don't like Mike will find something to down him about,no matter
what he does.He's in a loose loose situation when it comes to the critics.
 
Shocking behaviour!!

A true farcical comedy of errors, only thing was nobody was laughing! Tournament directors should be more strict with this kind of shocking behaviour. No. 1 - you don't quit no matter how the balls lay and they did not lie that great for Corey after Mike's miss! No. 2 - slammimg cues should come with a heavy dollar fine so it hurts these measely paid pros right in their pocket! No. 3 - and this is the punchline your behaviour should be worthy of the sport you have chosen sadly no etiquette!

Boddabing - yes I am preachin cos its way overdue It needs to be preached!!!!
 
Really not a similar situation. Here's what I posted just after watching Dennis Orcullo's concession to Max:



Hence, the were extenuating circumstances surrounding Dennis' concession.
In addition, Max needed seventeen more balls.

Far more similar to this was John Schmidt's concession to Niels Feijen after a miss with Niels needing eighteen. I believe, but I'm not certain, that this was in the quarterfinal of the then WPA sanctioned 2007 World 14,1 Championship.

At the US Open 10-ball event this July at the Rio, Lee Vann Corteza conceded to Chris Bartram trailing 8-3 in the race to 9. Rack 12 of that match never even begun!

Even great players, and Dechaine is certainly a great one, concede occasionally. We'd all prefer that they didn't, but if happens.

Hopefully, there was no Calcutta!

I was watching the match when Orcollo quit. If there had been a shot clock that wouldn't have happened and there should ALWAYS be a shot clock in 14.1 - one of the best runs ever was Sigel's 150 vs Zuglan and there was a shot clock. It would have taken Max 45 minutes to run that remaining rack and a half.

But, the way to prevent forfeits is to stipulate in advance withholding prize money in the event of a forfeit.
 
Only because he knew he'd be charged for heavy damage to the table.
HOOOOOHHHHHH

that was mean, sorry.

Drago tried to take it back because he'd forgotten there's a 500ish dollar fine for conceding like that.
He was bashing his head because he basically just set fire to his rent money.

Hey, sorry for thinking you accused me of making fun of MD's head yesterday. After I re-read it all I see that it was YOU who was making fun! But that's OK, you don't come across as a MD hater to me, just having a bit of fun at his head's expense. LOL

I was in an evil mood yesterday, looking to pick a fight. My little buddy Cody - my sweet cat of 10 years - started meowing really loud the day before. When I went outside to see what was wrong, he came through the door gasping for air, staggered and fell down, and died in my arms right there. He seemed perfectly fine earlier in the day when he followed me out to the garden. I think somebody must have poisoned him. I'm not ordinarily a violent man, but it ain't gonna be pretty if I find out who did this to him.

Anyway, not usually my way, I just felt a need to lash out because I was so furious at the cruelty some folks are capable of.
 
Hey, sorry for thinking you accused me of making fun of MD's head yesterday. After I re-read it all I see that it was YOU who was making fun! But that's OK, you don't come across as a MD hater to me, just having a bit of fun at his head's expense. LOL

I was in an evil mood yesterday, looking to pick a fight. My little buddy Cody - my sweet cat of 10 years - started meowing really loud the day before. When I went outside to see what was wrong, he came through the door gasping for air, staggered and fell down, and died in my arms right there. He seemed perfectly fine earlier in the day when he followed me out to the garden. I think somebody must have poisoned him. I'm not ordinarily a violent man, but it ain't gonna be pretty if I find out who did this to him.

Anyway, not usually my way, I just felt a need to lash out because I was so furious at the cruelty some folks are capable of.

Man, if that happened to one of my cats I'd be a wreck. I'm sorry to hear about that man.
Hope the vet figures it out. It's better if it was just natural causes, you don't want to waste
your time being angry at the sick people in the world who would hurt an animal...
you will just get frustrated and depressed cuz there's so many of them and often they look harmless
and you have no idea what kind of ****ed up stuff is going on under the surface.

Best if you just get peace of mind knowing it was some strange unlucky illness and at least it was quick.

Anyway, we're 100% good, I can see where the misunderstanding happened.
I shouldn't tease Mike, he's a good guy, sometimes I can't resist the easy joke.
Hope you get some peace... maybe a visit to the shelter?
 
Man, if that happened to one of my cats I'd be a wreck. I'm sorry to hear about that man.
Hope the vet figures it out. It's better if it was just natural causes, you don't want to waste
your time being angry at the sick people in the world who would hurt an animal...
you will just get frustrated and depressed cuz there's so many of them and often they look harmless
and you have no idea what kind of ****ed up stuff is going on under the surface.

Best if you just get peace of mind knowing it was some strange unlucky illness and at least it was quick.

Anyway, we're 100% good, I can see where the misunderstanding happened.
I shouldn't tease Mike, he's a good guy, sometimes I can't resist the easy joke.
Hope you get some peace... maybe a visit to the shelter?

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http://www.hartzvictims.org/
 
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