Ron Swanson
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Good to see you back safe and well, vets. Was a bit worried about you when you sunk from trace following SVBs humiliation in moscow.
Dennis calls Shane out for 20k
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Good to see you back safe and well, vets. Was a bit worried about you when you sunk from trace following SVBs humiliation in moscow.
I didn't sink anywhere clownpants. Shane got beat, simple as that. If he wants action anymore then he has to basically accept the challengers terms or not get any action. It happens when you're the best.
I guess he could just spot everyone the 7 or something crazy, but taking his break advantage away and making him come to them is worth more than the 7 I would think. In the end, I'm sure he made a nice litte score in appearance money and now he has a few people thinking he's off his game and might get some actual gambling action. All because of a challenge exhibition and a few short race tourneys. That's probably gonna be worth more to him than winning all of the tourneys in the long run.
Ah, forgot about Busty....he earned his pool name, Django.
Ron Swanson
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Ron Swanson
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I like Shane and enjoy watching him play but the harse reality is there are A LOT of players in this world who are more fundamentally sound than he is. The Russian is definitely on this long list. His technique was top shelf. Shane's is not. He has been able to outrun his subtle cueing flaws for a long time through sheer determination and having the best break in the world.
The U.S. players have a long history of playing with their own unique style. I'm afraid Shane may be our last great player if our other up and coming players try and emulate his uniqueness instead of taking the more orthodox European, or dare I say Snooker approach to cueing.
The U.S. players have a long history of playing with their own unique style. I'm afraid Shane may be our last great player if our other up and coming players try and emulate his uniqueness instead of taking the more orthodox European, or dare I say Snooker approach to cueing.
Ah, it was all a clever ruse by your boy Shaney. :wub:
I didn't say it was a ruse Mr. bean. I said that it would probably make him more in the long run, whether by design or not.
Fargo Ratings aren't perfect yet, bUT it's a huge step in the right direction.
With that being said, I believe that the majority of the pool community is in the right by a considerable margin rating Dennis well above Bergman.
That's not me saying that he isn't a strong contender it most of the events he competes in, or that he isn't improving every month, bc I think he definitely is; I simply don't feel he's there yet.
There's nothing wrong with supporting someone, but you often times tend to overstep your bounds.
I think Dennis is the favorite only if they play on a super tight table like the one at Hard Times in Bellflower. Such a table negates SVB's break to an extent and puts more value on shooting super straight- I think Dennis shoots a bit straighter than SVB.
I took a lesson from Dennis over the summer at Jay Helfert's house and he said that he has a lot of confidence playing on a super tough table like the one at Hard Times.
I took a lesson from Dennis over the summer at Jay Helfert's house and he said that he has a lot of confidence playing on a super tough table like the one at Hard Times.
This guy John French backing Dennis is the real deal he has big bucks and he puts his money were his mouth is.
He has all the confidence in the world in Dennis and has said on numerous occasions he will back
Dennis vs anybody in the World for high stakes.
He has all the confidence in the world in Dennis and has said on numerous occasions he will back
Dennis vs anybody in the World for high stakes.
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The Big Event
LOL
Upcoming Russia athletics ban may have repercussions so Ruslan may not be able to travel so he is out.
Main Draw : Bergman v Morra
Undercard: Shane v Dennis
Under Under Card: JB v Lou
Referee : Trump
Ball Cleaner : Boyes
Rack Checker: Mike Dechaine
Musician: T. Powell (Rivalry)
Scorekeeper : Barry B ( he can "put in" scores If he likes you)
Ring Card Girl: Shanelle Lorraine
Cornermen: Mayweather for Shane and Pacquiao for Dennis
Commentators: Jeremy Jones and Earl
Hotel Keys Keeper: CW
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LOL
Upcoming Russia athletics ban may have repercussions so Ruslan may not be able to travel so he is out.
Main Draw : Bergman v Morra
Undercard: Shane v Dennis
Under Under Card: JB v Lou
Referee : Trump
Ball Cleaner : Boyes
Rack Checker: Mike Dechaine
Musician: T. Powell (Rivalry)
Scorekeeper : Barry B ( he can "put in" scores If he likes you)
Ring Card Girl: Shanelle Lorraine
Cornermen: Mayweather for Shane and Pacquiao for Dennis
Commentators: Jeremy Jones and Earl
Hotel Keys Keeper: CW
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Shane got beat in Russia? Gosh, you mean he doesn't win every challenge match?
What's his record now on them? 20-3 or something like that? So if we were to assign an average value to each of the official streamed challenge matches Shane has been in since first playing Corey on TAR of say $10,000 profit to the winner that puts him at about $170,000 to the good against the world elite in heads-up play.
Don't have to be a nuthugger to state the obvious record here.
At Large do you have a list of the actual results?
What's his record now on them? 20-3 or something like that? So if we were to assign an average value to each of the official streamed challenge matches Shane has been in since first playing Corey on TAR of say $10,000 profit to the winner that puts him at about $170,000 to the good against the world elite in heads-up play.
Don't have to be a nuthugger to state the obvious record here.
At Large do you have a list of the actual results?
The only sensible comment so far.
I am still at a lost why it is that two top pro matching up seems to be so one sided to so many people, mostly shane fans. The only thing that should throw off a match is how one person is playing on "That" day, conditions (home field, table etc) and the format.
Even a not so top pro can beat a top pro if the balls are rolling right, and everyone should know this cause it's their typical excuse when they lose "I couldn't get a roll", no one ever seems to get out played or just played poor enough to lose.
More people have become efficient at the 10 ball break so this is no longer an advantage for shane. Shane is good but he is no God, he can be beat and has been beating.
Match Room has had to edit it's format just to give the US a chance, cause it seems that only favoring conditions are acceptable just like any Shane match, it has to be on a special table with special pockets and special format on the perfect day hopefully in the US and then Shane is a monster.
I actually like Shane (but no more than another player) but would like to see him lose his next 3 challenge matches just to bring some of you guys back to reality.
Now go on, don't break the Azb policies and procedures now flame away.
exactly JB. He went to a guys home room, in another country and lost at the guys game. big deal.
I love how everyone wants to take away his break. its like telling Tom Brady he can't pass the ball, only hand it off.
The only person with a better record than Shane in big matches is Mayweather.
Ian
get outta here with all your gambling logic Vette.
I hope they match up on a Gold Crown table. 
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Exactly
Pool players amaze me with the "Bet More" or "Bet All You Want" , when 99% of the time they are not betting 5 cents.
What matters is who's cash it is after the game. If Shane feels like he would win then go get it is all I can say.
Here's my take for anyone who cares.
Shane is not one of my favorite players - something about his game that I just don't enjoy watching. I've seen many of his matches on YouTube and I think he has some flaws based on intuition (as somebody else said). I can't quite say what it is but it's there.
I respect him as a player, and as a top pro but I just can't help but notice it whenever he plays. I think he makes up for whatever it is with his break and his sheer talent/want to play but I also think he's starting to become outshined by other players who are growing up wanting to beat him.
Pool evolves as time goes on. Fats was a "pro," and now he's seen as an A/B player. Efren came over and pool jumped in leaps and bounds because people grew up and wanted to beat him. Now, Shane is in the limelight and people want to beat him so they're becoming better than him. Pool is evolving and new talent is starting to rise to the top to take Shane's spot.
In this particular race, I think Shane will drill Dennis if it's winner-break format. In a race to 80 I'd say Shane wins it 80-65.
Shane is not one of my favorite players - something about his game that I just don't enjoy watching. I've seen many of his matches on YouTube and I think he has some flaws based on intuition (as somebody else said). I can't quite say what it is but it's there.
I respect him as a player, and as a top pro but I just can't help but notice it whenever he plays. I think he makes up for whatever it is with his break and his sheer talent/want to play but I also think he's starting to become outshined by other players who are growing up wanting to beat him.
Pool evolves as time goes on. Fats was a "pro," and now he's seen as an A/B player. Efren came over and pool jumped in leaps and bounds because people grew up and wanted to beat him. Now, Shane is in the limelight and people want to beat him so they're becoming better than him. Pool is evolving and new talent is starting to rise to the top to take Shane's spot.
In this particular race, I think Shane will drill Dennis if it's winner-break format. In a race to 80 I'd say Shane wins it 80-65.