Well said my friend.
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Blaming victims of robbery is well said?
Have you been on either end of an armed robbery?
In a city you don't live in?
I like most posts from both of you guys but this ain't it.
Biloxi Boy
Man With A Golden Arm
I was not blaming anyone. If anything, I was reporting on how the pool world once was and lamenting upon just one more thing we have lost. If you don't believe my description was correct, then say that. We suffered a lot from our reputation, but we gained some things, and being left alone was one of them. You can like it or not but we were a different breed.
"All you tournament aficionados can get your sanctimonius senses offended as much as you want, but you are just deluding yourselves if you do not understand that this is the way it was."
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I used to travel to a lot of cities and towns, and regularly carried $5-10K (sometimes more) in cash as part of my business back then. I never was a victim of an armed robbery, but had a couple of close calls. Fortunately, I stayed aware of my situation and surroundings. I was able to sidestep one entirely and stop the other with a minor confrontation before it really had a chance to start. Neither of those instances kept me from continuing my business, or even from seriously reconsidering it.
We all have different individual thresholds for fear, concern, apprehension or whatever name you want to give it. My personal belief is that each person needs to recognize that threshold in themselves and act accordingly. However,making a judgement call about the reasonableness of someone else's threshold doesn't seem valid to me. (Unless, of course, you are considering going into a tight spot with them.)
I believe you were describing pool halls. The executive West was not, nor were all of the people from that area. The "ooh I'm shaking in my space boots" is just plain disrespectful.
" Let me tell you how we would have handled that" is pretending like you can do shit in that situation, that's definitely more often than not the the case. Laughing from heaven, nobody's laughing.
Count your blessings. Staying aware is good but, not fool proof. If you are a direct target of someone with bad intentions good luck with that. It's just disrespectful of the people who were robbed.I used to travel to a lot of cities and towns, and regularly carried $5-10K (sometimes more) in cash as part of my business back then. I never was a victim of an armed robbery, but had a couple of close calls. Fortunately, I stayed aware of my situation and surroundings. I was able to sidestep one entirely and stop the other with a minor confrontation before it really had a chance to start. Neither of those instances kept me from continuing my business, or even from seriously reconsidering it.
We all have different individual thresholds for fear, concern, apprehension or whatever name you want to give it. My personal belief is that each person needs to recognize that threshold in themselves and act accordingly. However,making a judgement call about the reasonableness of someone else's threshold doesn't seem valid to me. (Unless, of course, you are considering going into a tight spot with them.)
Stay safe out there. The world is a crazy place.
couldn't agree more. don't want to see a rich landlord or whatever play big sets, because if the play sucks the play sucks.
but krause is playing estiola now. just started:
Biloxi Boy
Man With A Golden Arm
I was not pretending, and made no comment on my personal capabilities, but believe this, there absolutely were, and probably still are, some people, definitely NOT me, who could and did handle such situations. I will always remember what my father said to me about an incident which I had observed in a local nightclub one night, "Two things about mob joints, BB, safest places you will ever be in and the last places you ever want to #&@* up in." My father had little formal education but he always knew what he was talking about.
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Maybe leave the "we" could have handled it" part out. Out of respect for those who actually put in the work to keep the place safe.
The whole thing kind of put me off.
I understand where your coming from. Could have all been said differently and get the same point across.
Badpenguin
Well-known member
What a load of caca. Like there are mob joints all over Biloxi.
Sorry if modern day people don't want to turn to being violent criminals just to play pool, but that is the way it is. If everyone was running around being the "tough guy" that you are glorifying here, they would all be dead by 30. No one wants to live that way any longer, the world has passed you by. Curious how everything your father said sounds like it came straight out of a script for a Scorsese movie.
Funny how I've lived over 50 years and I have never once had to stab or shoot anyone to protect myself, by simply not going to places where the need to do that that might be a remote possibility.
Well then I guess you haven’t lived penguin. Spend a little time in west Baltimore ; )
Im blown away by how we act in America these days. Walk around totally unarmed as if we’re living in Hong Kong where criminals get the business and crime is rare - but we’re in cities where criminality is promoted, self defense vilified, crazy houses all shut down. It’s madness
It sounds like this executive west was a better time all around for most.
Im blown away by how we act in America these days. Walk around totally unarmed as if we’re living in Hong Kong where criminals get the business and crime is rare - but we’re in cities where criminality is promoted, self defense vilified, crazy houses all shut down. It’s madness
It sounds like this executive west was a better time all around for most.
Biloxi Boy
Man With A Golden Arm
It is a damn shame reading comprehension has come to this apparent depth, but let me try one more time.
“Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you." Matthew 7:6.
My initial missive both predicted and warned: "All you tournament aficionados can get your sanctimonius senses offended as much as you want, but you are just deluding yourselves if you do not understand that this is the way it was."
Caca. Caca? Who in the world are you and what do you know? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixie_Mafia
"Mississippi Mud" tells the 97% true story of the state of things here as the cow's tail cleared the fence. And, yes, these particular events occurred all around me.
“Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you." Matthew 7:6.
My initial missive both predicted and warned: "All you tournament aficionados can get your sanctimonius senses offended as much as you want, but you are just deluding yourselves if you do not understand that this is the way it was."
Caca. Caca? Who in the world are you and what do you know? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixie_Mafia
"Mississippi Mud" tells the 97% true story of the state of things here as the cow's tail cleared the fence. And, yes, these particular events occurred all around me.
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Badpenguin
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I didn't say everyone walks around totally unarmed, or that they shouldn't. But for most it just isn't worth the hassle of having to pay lawyers to stay out of prison because I wanted to go to some known shady-ass location. We don't have to go to those locations any more, we don't live in a 3rd world country. Unless, of course, you want to make certain (illegal) business transactions that can only be made in those areas.
99% of America doesn't live in a Quentin Tarantino movie. Nor did they in the past, in spite of what some may glorify the past to have been like.
I think there's still a place for a big action jamboree but imo DCC is quickly becoming passe in that regard. New Orleans is the home to this style pool now. Old-school road action style gambling is virtually non-existent these days. The old EI location was ok and pretty safe but you really had to be on your toes. I know a couple people who got robbed of their cues coming off the elevator.
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Biloxi Boy
Man With A Golden Arm
Quit deluding yourself.
I can't comment on the Executive West, I've never been. For the current location, I went I think 5 or 6 times. Each time the fields grew bigger and bigger, and slowly the "action room" became smaller and smaller. The legit pros are all in a super grind with all the events they are in. They usually don't have time anymore to gamble. The first or second year I went was the year Dippy Dave was there, playing all of his "qualified" players.
I think gambling in general is just dead all over, and it's mostly tournaments now. I was at Pat's Intl Open last year, which had plenty of tables and time after the tournament finished each night. I didn't really see any action of note. On a local level, there are tournaments everywhere and every day now. But as soon as a player gets knocked out, they now go home, instead of sticking around to match up. Also, most local tournaments are now double elimination, which means the players and tables are occupied much longer. In the older days, they were all single elimination, which led to action, IMO.
I think gambling in general is just dead all over, and it's mostly tournaments now. I was at Pat's Intl Open last year, which had plenty of tables and time after the tournament finished each night. I didn't really see any action of note. On a local level, there are tournaments everywhere and every day now. But as soon as a player gets knocked out, they now go home, instead of sticking around to match up. Also, most local tournaments are now double elimination, which means the players and tables are occupied much longer. In the older days, they were all single elimination, which led to action, IMO.
Biloxi Boy
Man With A Golden Arm
And the reason is we needed to be, or feel, safer?
If Buffalo's soiree were to go head to head with DCC which one wins? Or stated somewhat differently, I you had to choose, which would you opt to attend?
Apparently I didn't read his comment as well as I should have. The thing I was replying to was how we handled our own issues and all that. Noone does that anymore for obvious reasons, but when we were younger, we were dumber.
Did you see who won? I fell asleep. Estiola can really play but watching him was tough.couldn't agree more. don't want to see a rich landlord or whatever play big sets, because if the play sucks the play sucks.
but krause is playing estiola now. just started: