Derby City Classic Poll

Do you think it is better to play 9 Ball or 10 Ball at the Derby City Classic?

  • 9-ball

    Votes: 16 45.7%

  • 10-ball

    Votes: 9 25.7%

  • Not sure

    Votes: 10 28.6%
  • Total voters
    35
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Paul8ball

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Greg Sullivan and myself are always thinking of ways to make the Derby City Classic better. In our way of thinking, better is something that the players think is more fun or better. So, we are asking for your opinion.

Do you think it is better if we play 9 Ball or 10 Ball at the Derby City Classic?

9 Ball

10 Ball
 
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Paul8ball said:
Greg Sullivan and myself are always thinking of ways to make the Derby City Classic better. In our way of thinking, better is something that the players think is more fun or better. So, we are asking for your opinion.

Do you think it is better if we play 9 Ball or 10 Ball at the Derby City Classic?

Yes

No
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Thats not a yes or no question Poll makes no sense
 
Paul8ball said:
Greg Sullivan and myself are always thinking of ways to make the Derby City Classic better. In our way of thinking, better is something that the players think is more fun or better. So, we are asking for your opinion.

Do you think it is better if we play 9 Ball or 10 Ball at the Derby City Classic?

Yes

No
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10 ball.
for sure
your vote thing just says yes or no not
if we should play 10 ball or 9 ball.
 
9 Ball for sure. DCC is full of amateurs, not top pros. Keep the game easier. I played the last two years, and I doubt I would play if its 10 ball. I've never seen a 10 ball gambling game in 15 years of playing locally (even amongst the local open level players).
 
9-Ball.

A little more exciting, a few more upsets which are always good for the game.

The bottom line is, at the end of the day, the cream of the crop always raises to the top.

I dare anyone to say that any of the winners -and all the Semi-finallists for that matter- of the Derby 9-Ball events do not deserve their wins because 9-Ball is too easy of a game.
 
raise1 said:
9-Ball.

A little more exciting, a few more upsets which are always good for the game.

The bottom line is, at the end of the day, the cream of the crop always raises to the top.

I dare anyone to say that any of the winners -and all the Semi-finallists for that matter- of the Derby 9-Ball events do not deserve their wins because 9-Ball is too easy of a game.
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its not to easy of a game.
but the rack is the big problem.
 
iusedtoberich said:
9 Ball for sure. DCC is full of amateurs, not top pros. Keep the game easier. I played the last two years, and I doubt I would play if its 10 ball. I've never seen a 10 ball gambling game in 15 years of playing locally (even amongst the local open level players).
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Key word right there.

These are the people that foot the bills for the pros. Without these easy-money, billiards-loving pool players, I don't see how the bottom-mid level pros can survive.
 
Definitely ten ball. Doing the Orange Crush in nine ball is suicide :eek:!

Actually it depends on which rules package you decide to use for ten ball. There are too few "amateur" players familiar with the "pro" rules in use now.
Virtually everyone understands Texas Express.

Glad you're back from your Asian swing. Hope everything is OK.

Lyn
 
Tenball!!!!

I cant answer the poll due to it's poor structure, but tenball is the new beast.... Nineball should go the way of the dinosaurs...

Jaden
 
9 ball. Save the 10 ball for the 10 ft. tables in the Fatboy Challenge. Maybe increase the no. of entries in the Fatboy event, if more players want in.
 
9 ball , 100%. It's not even debatable.


But these tourneys die when made 10 ball, the luck factor must stay for amateurs, they are what make the events, not pros/shortstops. Alot less luck in 10 ball.
 
The poll makes no sense, but if the question is what I prefer, it's 9-ball by a country mile.

Those who suggest that nine ball is broken and that it randomizes the results of matches need look no further than the list of Derby City nine ball champions. It's an absolute who's who of pool, and cinderella stories just don't happen at the Derby City Nine Ball event. The last nine winners were 2012 Van Boening, 2011 Orcullo, 2010 Reyes, 2009 Van Boening, 2008 Souquet, 2007 Feijen, 2006 Souquet, 2005 Reyes, and 2004 Souquet, every single one of them a current or future BCA hall of famer. Short races, slop counts, rack your own and no jump cues, all of which so many suggest block the cream from the rising to the top, have made no difference year after year after year.

Is there any tournament anywhere that more consistently delivers a great champion than the Derby City Nine Ball event? I really don't think so.

The Derby City Nine Ball event is my favorite pool event of the calendar year on US soil.

I'm shocked that this change is even being considered. Hope it's nothing to do with the cancellation of the WPA World ten ball championship.
 
sjm said:
... Short races, slop counts, rack your own and no jump cues, all of which so many suggest block the cream from the rising to the top, have made no difference year after year after year. ...
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No difference? Of course those things make a difference. The fact that it's always a top-notch player who wins does not mean that slop made no difference in the outcome of the event.

As I have often stated in response to the argument that the cream always rises to the top -- yes, some brand of cream will always rise to the top in big events, but with no-slop rules it might be a different brand of cream. In other words: luck/slop can enable a lesser player to prevail against anyone in a short race. But luck will never enable a significantly lesser player to survive a gauntlet of top players near the end of a large event. Luck/slop, however, can be a key determinant of which top player beats another top player and which top player wins the event.

And I don't think we should always focus just on who won the event. Slop rules can change the outcome of matches throughout the event and can significantly affect which players finish in the money and how much money they earn. That should be vitally important for people trying to earn a living playing pool.

I prefer no-slop rules of some sort for all events for professionals and highly skilled amateurs. I do recognize that the DCC has also had an invitational 10-ball event the past couple of years. Maybe that lessens the need slightly to change the open 9-ball event.
 
I have been to the Derby at the Horseshoe the last 3 years. My wife and I like it so much we flew to Tunica for the Southern Classic last July. The 10 ball on the 10 foot tables was great to watch, but so was the 9 ball and 1 pocket. I wouldn't change a thing. Thank you to the Diamond guys for putting on a great event!
 
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