Derby City Dress Code

Agree

lfigueroa said:
I’m not saying it would fix anything — it’s just a small step in the right direction.

Right now, a potential sponsor walking into a pool event is probably going to take one look around at the homeless convention and walk right back out.

Lou Figueroa
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I also agree with this, hard to believe asking people to wear a collared shirt with clean pants could cause so much resistance.
 
lfigueroa said:
I am surprised you would take such an apathetic position — we should aspire to do better, IMO.

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Agreed, Lou, but you can’t litigate self-respect.

How they present themselves will certainly affect the image of the pros and I wish they’d present themselves with greater professionalism, but the Derby consists of nearly 90% amateurs, most of whom are there for the annual thrill of mixing it up with the best for a very small entry fee.
 
sjm said:
Agreed, Lou, but you can’t litigate self-respect.

How they present themselves will certainly affect the image of the pros and I wish they’d present themselves with greater professionalism, but the Derby consists of nearly 90% amateurs, most of whom are there for the annual thrill of mixing it up with the best for a very small entry fee.
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I guess I see no reason why amateurs can't aspire to more, Stu.

And, just perhaps, dress the part of *playing* in a big time pool tournament along side the professionals. Sometimes at the Derby you don't know whether the next guy walking past you is going to say hello or ask if you got any spare change.

Lou Figueroa
 
Like i said before a comfortable shirt and slacks and you're good to go and also look good.
 
jasonlaus said:
You're not really making much of a point with that. I'd say, the exact opposite.
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Read the whole thing. Not just the PGA.

LPGA Futures Tour


The LPGA Futures Tour -- a developmental circuit for the LPGA Tour -- charges all golfers a $500 entry fee for each tournament. To play in a qualifying tournament, Futures Tour members pay $200, amateurs invited by the tournament sponsor pay $230, and non-LPGA players pay $500.




NGA Tour Pro Series


The largest of the mini-tours in the United States, the NGA Tour Pro Series, includes four separate tours. The NGA Carolina Summer Series charges a membership fee of $750. For individual tournaments, members pay $600 while nonmembers pay $800. The Bridgestone Winter Series is the most expensive tour, with a membership fee of $1,250 and tournament entry fees of $800 and $1,100 for members and nonmembers, respectively. Membership for the Carolina Winter Series is $700. Members pay between $600 and $700 to enter each tournament while nonmembers pay between $800 and $900. Members of any facet of the NGA Pro Golf Series pay an $800 entry fee to play in the Q School Prep Series while nonmembers are charged $1,000.


Other Pro Tours


Competitors pay $399 to play in Canadian Women’s Tour events. Gateway Tour members pay $1,000 for the season and $1,150 for each tournament. Nonmembers just pay $1,350 per event.

Another U.S. mini-tour, the eGolf Professional Tour, charges an $1,150 entry fee for tour members and $1,390 for nonmembers. Members of the Golden State Tour, a smaller California series, pay a $250 entry fee for 18-hole tournaments, $450 for 36 holes and $650 for 54-hole events. Nonmembers pay $280, $500 and $750, respectively, for each level. Membership costs $400 if paid by the early deadline, or $500 afterward.
 
jasonlaus said:
How many people have you seen in pool rooms wearing suits? I haven't seen any.

Doesnt matter where they are wearing them - it's what inside the suit that counts.

I'll stand my statement that I've seen more scumbags in suits. Therefore I associate suits with scumbags more than t shirts.
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I hate these so called jerseys! Lookin like a pro bass fisherman!
 
Here is the dress code for DCC as I remember it.... :thumbup::D:D

Well, I've never seen it enforced - I think you can wear what you want until someone brings it to your attention, but you would be able to complete your set. Just bring a collared shirt just in case. Enjoy the tourney, I'm jealous.
 

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The sponsors should set whatever dress code they like and the players should conform to it. If it is important to the sponsors, they should enforce it and not let players play if they are not conforming to the standards. Easy as that.

If the sponsors don't care, then the individual players shouldn't worry about what any other player wears.

If one guy wants to come in dressed like Snoop Doggy Dogg and you want to dress like Fred Astaire, then go for it.

I'd much rather people worry about the pool rules, equipment, referees, etc., than worrying about dress codes.

Personally, I don't like seeing people with "pants on the ground", but I have the choice of not being around them in a tournament by not signing up.

DCC is a place where "amateurs" congregate in a pool-oriented environment. It isn't some sort of fancy elitist pool gathering where you have a red carpet that you can prance on in your finest duds on the way in.
 
IMO, the only dress code anybody should heed for anyplace is: Never apologize for being the best dressed MFer in the room.
 
jimmyco said:
IMO, the only dress code anybody should heed for anyplace is: Never apologize for being the best dressed MFer in the room.
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Best dressed is very subjective.

In some circles, "pants on the ground, cap turned sideways, and 100 gold chains" is considered well-dressed. In other circles, "tattered jeans, cowboy boots, flannel shirt, and a Ford truck cap is considered well-dressed. In other circles, "Dockers, collared shirt, and lace dress shoes" is considered well-dressed. In other circles, you aren't well dressed until you have on a "three-piece suit", or even a "tuxedo".

Which circle are you from?

The photo below shows three guys who were considered the "best dressed men of 2017" by one supposed fashion agency.
 

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Dress code

Maybe reverse logic makes sense. Lets say a company, small or large, wants to promote a product they wish to sell large quantities of. Naturally they would shun snooker players who are well groomed, attired professionally, and look to practice good hygiene. But send them players in well worn sweat pants, T shirts, looking to need a bath, and bingo, they reach the demographic with enough discretionary income to buy their product. My critique isn't meant to offend pool players. I admire and respect their talent and the amount of time and effort they put into becoming the best they can be. So I would like for them to make as much money as possible and that means attracting outside vendors to invest and promote pool. They will never be able to own homes, send their children to school, have health care, without changing the overall image of their occupation. And that effort would cost very little.
 
HawaiianEye said:
Best dressed is very subjective.

In some circles, "pants on the ground, cap turned sideways, and 100 gold chains" is considered well-dressed. In other circles, "tattered jeans, cowboy boots, flannel shirt, and a Ford truck cap is considered well-dressed. In other circles, "Dockers, collared shirt, and lace dress shoes" is considered well-dressed. In other circles, you aren't well dressed until you have on a "three-piece suit", or even a "tuxedo".

Which circle are you from?

The photo below shows three guys who were considered the "best dressed men of 2017" by one supposed fashion agency.
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Man things have gone down hill.This is right up there with the back hat tshirt boys with BO....
 
FWIW, I don't mind wearing something considered a bit "dressy" for pool tournaments.

One thing I don't like though is when the pool tables aren't well maintained. I can't count the number of times I've snagged or torn the front of my pants legs on the sides of a pool table due to a sharp edge of something sticking out.

Also, the aluminum edging on some tables will make black streaks across your pants legs if they are oxidized or not well cleaned. I used to come home from the pool hall and wonder what the hell was causing the streaks, until I figured that out.

As long as I feel "comfortable" and not "restricted" from movement, I don't have any real complaints about wearing something "dressy".
 
If any pro complains about being comfortable to play their best, they should be reminded that Mosconi ran 526 balls wearing a suit.

All the players of that era produced amazing play...wearing suits.


Too many excuse makers these days. No class.
 
Grilled Cheese said:
If any pro complains about being comfortable to play their best, they should be reminded that Mosconi ran 526 balls wearing a suit.

All the players of that era produced amazing play...wearing suits.


Too many excuse makers these days. No class.
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Decades ago, people wore slacks to play tennis.

Should we go back to that?
 

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HawaiianEye said:
Decades ago, people wore slacks to play tennis.

Should we go back to that?
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Bill was ahead of his time..A bit gay but had great strokes and most likely never belonged to a forum full of much to about nothing.Nothing on you Hawaiian Eye but this main forum can be funny with all the
tedious crap that's posted and debated...
Regards...
 
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HawaiianEye said:
Decades ago, people wore slacks to play tennis.

Should we go back to that?
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An argument can be made that such attire is restrictive and cumbersome for tennis at the elite level. Being an athletic sport.

That argument can't be made for pool.

Yeah, these guys can fancy themselves athletes all they want. They are not.


Does better attire restrict the ability to stroke a cue? No.

Does it restrict the ability to break? No.

Does it make reaching for shots more difficult? No.

Are pool players drenched in sweat, playing outdoors in the sun in 90 degree weather? No.


Business casual or even formal wear is not some kind of body constraining, performance hindering factor.


A collared shirt, oh my --- these pros won't be able to play their best with that pesky collar.

A tucked in shirt? With a belt! Heck, some prefer that when playing All-Fouls ...

Slacks? They can still just as easily throw a leg up on the table to reach a shot - but we'll be spared seeing their hairy leg or crotch shot.


We can't burden these high-performance, ultra-elite "cue sports" "athletes" with an expectation of wearing clothing similar to that of golf pros. Speaking of which, they don't seem to have much of a problem performing with that dress code.
 
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