Reading through this it is apparent that the industry is in need of a better mousetrap, one that is more robust and durable.
That's ironic because after reading this thread I want to get a Diamond Ball Polisher.
Looks like they rarely come up for sale used so I need to get a $500 advance on my next birthday present.
Here are some more somethings to think about:
1. Regardless who made what, what the original intent was, or who is using it at what events, Dan White's experiments show that McGuire's is not the bestest product to polish pool balls. It will change the way they play and the variations in throw, as the product wears off, will lead to inconsistent performance.
2. Aramith knows more about the care and feeding of phenolic resin pool balls than the rest of us combined, they've been at it since the 50's. So if they've come up with a product they believe is best to clean their balls, they're probably closer to the mark than the company that came up with a product for waxing cars with clear coat.
3. Diamond has apparently had a change of heart and now recommends Aramith Ball Cleaner.
4. As I have shown and Glen acknowledge, Aramith Ball Cleaner can be safely used in the machine he designed. Just don't use too much and not too often.
Finally, all of that is where the benefit of these discussions lies. Hopefully, some will take away something of use and stop using a product that is going to make playing an already difficult game even more difficult, and more fully enjoy their Diamond ball polisher.
Lou Figueroa
That's ironic because after reading this thread I want to get a Diamond Ball Polisher.
Looks like they rarely come up for sale used so I need to get a $500 advance on my next birthday present.
Here are some more somethings to think about:
1. Regardless who made what, what the original intent was, or who is using it at what events, Dan White's experiments show that McGuire's is not the bestest product to polish pool balls. It will change the way they play and the variations in throw, as the product wears off, will lead to inconsistent performance.
2. Aramith knows more about the care and feeding of phenolic resin pool balls than the rest of us combined, they've been at it since the 50's. So if they've come up with a product they believe is best to clean their balls, they're probably closer to the mark than the company that came up with a product for waxing cars with clear coat.
3. Diamond has apparently had a change of heart and now recommends Aramith Ball Cleaner.
4. As I have shown and Glen acknowledge, Aramith Ball Cleaner can be safely used in the machine he designed. Just don't use too much and not too often.
Finally, all of that is where the benefit of these discussions lies. Hopefully, some will take away something of use and stop using a product that is going to make playing an already difficult game even more difficult, and more fully enjoy their Diamond ball polisher.
Lou Figueroa
Can't argue with you on this Lue:grin:
Another $.02 worth...because my pockets are full of coin:
There’s a big, big difference between using a “polishing” compound and anything containing wax like the WPA rules state vs the Aramith Ball CLEANER - which is a “cleaner”. Not a wax. Not a polish. They (Aramith) clearly state “to make the ball shine...” etc etc and never call it a wax or polish. Why? Because it’s a cleaner.
The very reason those rules are written that way is due to the numerous wrong products that people use (like ANY Meguiar’s product I’m seeing within this thread) on billiard balls. Then to add even more problems, people use the wrong techniques with their wrong products. As a result, the only way to remove those waxes and polishes is via the way the WPA requires. Strip the ball completely. Unless you use the Aramith Ball Cleaner of course. Properly.
These things being discussed about proper billiard ball care reminds me of the folks that wash their cars with dish soap - and when they ask for advice and thoughts on how to get their cars to look like mine - and I take time and care to help them - they continue to ask what’s wrong with the dish soap.
Told ya ahead of time this was only worth another $.02
~ K
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Sorry, but Meguires cleaner compound is not a wax, no more than Aramith is and was NOT tested in Dr. Dave's experiments!! And I'd be willing to bet any amount of money there isn't a player on earth walking in to a pool room to play pool that can tell the difference in the first place, let alone one single EXPERT here on AZB who could pass a blind test between the 2 cleaners!! So, there's some change back on your .02 cents!
Of course you're not going to be able to tell.
But that doesn't change the fact that you'll miss when balls polished up with McGuire's don't throw as much as you expect them to. Why do that to yourself?
Lou Figueroa
99.9% of missed shots have nothing to do with throw....but it does allow for a good excuse....LMAO
Read my response to Lue...LOL FWIW I like the Aramith cleaner, just not the effects it has on any ball polisher using carpeting, but I have the solution to that problem, I'll be talking with Diamond about it shortly:grin-square:For a guy with a Home Depot bucket, some left-over carpeting and a borrowed buffer - I get it. It works. It does the job. ..
Read my response to Lue...LOL FWIW I like the Aramith cleaner, just not the effects it has on any ball polisher using carpeting, but I have the solution to that problem, I'll be talking with Diamond about it shortly:grin-square: